Top Reasons Why Testosterone is a Bad Choice!!

[Jeff_rys]

i am with you DCS in this "Fight of the Titans"

"the only good roids for me are primo, winstrol, masteron, anavar, and some eq (and also, a little known thing by the name of andractim). "

Especially when you are older.

And Primo is great, but Oxandrolone is greater.

I hate to say this 2Thick, but already when taking 400 mgr/Deca a week, i get sore nipples and this after 2 weeks.

 

[The Ranger]

Fonz,

I hate to point this out, but quite alot of the Deca gains are in fact IM fat storage, and as for RU-486, while I do not dispute the validity of it's use...it is rare, if not impossible to obtain in the US....and for the price it would go for, you have to ask yourself....Is it worth the risk and price??

EQ is MUCH cheaper, acts along the same pathway as Deca, very low water retention, only aromatizes into a simple estrogen, sides are easily avoided if not completely dropped....using common sense, EQ would produce much better quality gains over Deca....any day of the week....

Ranger

 

[Fonz]

Ranger,

EQ is less anabolic than Deca. Don't get me wrong, you'll
get more vascular on EQ than on Deca(I'm currently
on EQ), but you don't gain anywhere near the same amount of
muscle as Deca.
In as far as the IM fat storage is concerned, thank your
lucky stars Decaman isn't here because both of us
already disagreed with that point over at AF.
As an explanation:
DECA is progestenic, therefore it increases glucose
clearance through an increase in the GDP6-enzyme
(Glucose transporter).
It doesn't increase fat-burning IT INCREASES GLUCOSE
OXIDATION LEADING THE BODY TO BURN MORE
FAT FOR FUEL. I stress the word "BURN" not "STORE".

That IM fat story is just another Urban Legend that sources
use to sell more test.

In as far as the RU-486:

How expensive was the arimidex when it first came out?

Answer is: TOO EXPENSIVE!!!!!

Its just a question of time until the RU price goes down.
You also have to take into account it is A FAR MORE
restricted drug than anastrozole, and is also far
newer.(Just got approved by the FDA).

Godspeed

 

[Anabolicum Mister]

Whether or not the IM fat thing is true, if it were, I would see it as a good thing. It does not look like sub-q fat and would add size that looks exactly like muscle from the outside. Nothing wrong with a "well-marbled" pair of pecs!

 

[The Iron Game]

I do not believe you believe all of this propoganda.

You lose half your gains after a test cycle? Common purleaseeeee

 

[Yellowbomber]

You don't like test and so are your results

 

[Fonz]

Even though I'm obviously not a big tet fan, I have to back
up what IG is saying.

Yet another myth: With Test you lose half your gains!!

BIG FAT NO.

With TEST, you gain Water+MUSCLE+ some fat(inevitable
and this laso applies to all other steroids in bulking cycles).

When you come off the test, the inter-stitial water retention
(estrogen-induced edema) is reduced to nil YOU LOSE THE
EXTRA WATER INSIDE YOU MUSCLES!!!!!

YOU DO NOT LOSE MUSCLE. The contractile tissue
you have gained is there, it does not simply fade away
(unless you go cold turkey).

Truthfully, you'll lose some muscle(3-4lbs) over the next
3-4 weeks as your test level is DRASTICALLY
lowered, but this is almost inevitable.

People confuse the increased muscle GIRTH from the
water retention for muscle. THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

This is why I like anabolics-only, they don't "swell you up",
they simply increase muscle.

Also, test-users are more likely to suffer from post-cycle
depression due to the aforementioned reasons above.

Godspeed

 

[macrophage69alpha]

2Thick and FONZ
at it again.

Now look I realize that you two are rather scientifically adept (or is the inept ), but sometimes the conclusions that you jump to are slightly ridiculous.


1. IM fat Storage is not a myth- if you would like I will find the studeis that show that progesterone and its derivatives increase IM fat.

2. Deca is not as anabolic as test- it's activity is limited to almost solely the AR- aside from its progestenic effects.

3. In certain ethnicities DECA and other progestenic steroids produce TREMENDOUS IM fat gains- mainly in those of african descent (though not only african descent)

4. Deca induced impotence is REAL- if you would like I can repost all the data on the effects of progestin on libido and sexual performance- including the fact that a nor-testesterone derivative is used for chemical castrastion and evidence that Nor-plant severely depresses libido in women (especially african americans).


5. Hair- cant really argue here- test is harder on the hair- WHEN USED ALONE- with the appropriate additions it is easier on the hair (additions that cannot be used with deca)


6. Gyno- do we really have to go into this again?

7. What is this nonsense about synthetic test being different from natural test?

8. with respect to mifeprestone, I really dont want to get into this discussion again


peace
btw- TEST IS KING

 

[macrophage69alpha]

BTW- with respect to the HPTA, Nandralone suppression can last up to 13 months- there are a couple of nice australian studies(where its used as birth control)

peace

 

[liftsiron]

Rule#1 Always do deca with my test
Rule#2 Always do test with my deca