This low dose craze is getting out of hand.

[gunner44]

To each his own....

I think we have all considered BIg Andy's point of view. It is always tempting to just keep pumping in more sauce.

However, my own experience has taught me that there is a Minimum as well as a Maximum threshold when it comes to AAS dosage. We all have to experiment to find it and it is surely different for us all.

Low dosage cycles are great, if they work. But high dosage cycles seem to be more risky when it comes to permanent shutdown of HPTA as well as long term down regulating of androgen receptors.

Take your pick.

Take your chances.

 

[BigAndy69]

Big Andy, I see you have Test Enanthate listed in your sample cycle above. What's your opinion of Sustanon/Omnadren?

I think omnas are great. Cheap and very effective. It really depends on what you can get and what you are willing to pay. I think people make too much of a big deal out of it. Don't spend more money on Sust thinking you will get a better product.

Also I think people tend to compare UG gear with pharmacy made sust. Of course chances are the sust is better. It's only fair to compare it to human grade single ester like Testovirons and Delatestryl.

 

[liftsiron]

Steroids for Health...I love that title...99% of the time, unregulated, self medicated hormone use is NOT healthy. If you are bodybuilding for health and use steroids, you are kidding yourself. Sure, you may be healthier than partiers and heavy drinkers, but have no delusions, steroid use doesn't make you healthy, lifting does. I'm not saying you can't be healthy with moderate hormone use, but chances are you would be healthier without AS.

I agree with most of what you say except with the above paragraph, what is stated may hold true for the younger board members.

However as we reach a certain age, males are much healthier with HRT than without it. Testosterone reduces the risk of many aliments in the aging athlete including CVD.

 

[OXANDRIN]

people over do tren.... if people stuck to 50mg EOD they would have no problems.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Most mundane sticky ever.

 

[guards]

Most mundane sticky ever.

 

[BigAndy69]

Most mundane sticky ever.

What's wrong? Not "controversial" enough for ya?

If you got nothing positive to add to the discussion, stay out of.

Liftsiron, I agree with you; I said "unregulated, self medicated hormone use is NOT healthy" HRT is supervised by a doctor and blood tests are done.

 

[muscleup]

BA69, your rear double biceps looks great...Reminds me of Milos Sarcev for some reason

 

[slobberknocker]

Have you got blood work done? Before? During? After? With lower dosages this isn't as important as with the dosages you take.
If so, whenever it was, could you please post it?





I really don't know if you got your blood levels checked or not, but if you didnt, please do. For your sake ...
If you did, please post it as it would be educational for all.

-sk

I was last in there about 6 weeks ago. Doc said the liver was only slightly elevated, which suprised me since I was on 2 drols/day at the time. The only thing she was worried about was my bp. I believe it was 150/90. It's much better now, mostly because I've lost about 35 lbs of fat and water since then.

Don't think I'll ever do drol again. The bloat was too much for me.

 

[ripper2]

The above info about Sust/Omna is inaccurate. Most guys analyze Sust/Omna by each individual ester, instead of the way it was intended when it was created. Check out Andy13's post below about Sustanon/Omnadren. He says Sust/Omna should be treated and used like a single ester product on the lines of Enanthate and Cypionate.

i use it like prop (injecting EOD) and am loving it