This low dose craze is getting out of hand.

[sk*]

Take whatever you want, low or high. Just realize that high doses give bigger gains, and may or may not give more sides.


Here's how I dose: I increase doses until I begin to feel uncomfortable, and then I back off a bit. Simple.

Have you got blood work done? Before? During? After? With lower dosages this isn't as important as with the dosages you take.
If so, whenever it was, could you please post it?

Honestly, 2g of test is A LOT. DrJMW will tell you here that it is probably way above anyone's "natural acceptance limit", meaning the side effects should be very high there. He is an actual doctor, and doesn't just blow smoke here ... who has also competed I believe.

I sincerely worry for you bro. You are around my age I believe, 20?, yet you take so much. What's gonna happen in 20years? You may say you won't care, but AAS won't just kill you ... it'll torture you if you start hurting yourself by this age.

Once your cholesterol rises to a certain point, your heart will follow it, and it won't be long till you get a heart attack. Do you actually realize what a heart attack is? And this is just one of the possibilities that will happen, and it HAS happened ... you can check up with Mike from AR who had one at age 24.

Do you realize if you go through open heart surgery, you probably won't be able to lift the big weights ever again?

It really isn't as simple as saying "maybe i'll die at 50", no you won't die at 50 ... you will suffer till 50 then die.

I really don't know if you got your blood levels checked or not, but if you didnt, please do. For your sake ...
If you did, please post it as it would be educational for all.

-sk

 

[trinidad]

So BigAndy, what do you think about running long cycles?

 

[Mike P.T.]

Glad to see you got your user name back.

250mg of Test or 300mg of Eq? Come on, that's just a waste! I can honestly say that if you are considering a 250mg Test cycle, you are better off staying Natural. You can achieve your goals with a little more perseverance.

"I just want to gain a little muscle and lose some fat! I don't want to get too big."

Great! Then why the f*** are you using steroids!!!

If you can gain well on these Mickey Mouse cycles, then you shouldn't be using steroids. If you are going to turn to the darkside...do it right!!!

If I decide to rob a bank, I'm not going to take only half the money. The risk is still the same. I would take all the money, but I wouldn't take the customer's money because it will greatly increase the time I spend at the bank, ie risk, for minimal benefit. If I plan on taking only half the money (low dose), I'm better off working my regular job for a little while (Natural).

Who's lost ?

Btw, there is a substantial difference between 400mg of Deca vs 400mg of Test vs 400mg of EQ. Deca is much stronger, and I wouldn't recommend more than 300mg.

Thx bro. Was getting worried I might have to start from scratch again.

Anyway, in regards to this topic I just believe that newbies don't need to rush things. Sure they may not gain much on their first cycle if their genetics suck as well as their receptors(even though half the time their training and diet sucks as well) but at least they know where they are and can try something different the next time around. Everyone wants everything YESTERDAY but patience is the key to lasting in this game. At least for me. I like the journey and the experience that goes along with it both mentally and physically but people nowadays don't want to go through that journey they want their physique they always dreamed of in 2 months. I dunno, maybe I'm rambling a little too much so I'll just stick to my original opinion. All I know is I gain off well on low doses as do you and even Quadsweep who is a top national competitor. Everyone is different though in their opinions and the doseages you recommend are still reasonable. I just go one step further on the conservative side that's all.

 

[Mike P.T.]

So BigAndy, what do you think about running long cycles?

Hope he agrees with me on this one that longer cycles are the way to go.

*Not for the newbies though.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

^

 

[BigAndy69]

Hope he agrees with me on this one that longer cycles are the way to go.

*Not for the newbies though.

Well I have a very specific way of cycling.

Bulk cycles where the goal is to increase muscle, I use longer cycles 12-20 weeks always ending with anavar

Cutting cycles where the goal is LBM perservation, I use short cycles with fast acting gear, anywher from 3-8 weeks.

 

[Dial_tone]

Despite the title I actually do like this post. Karma.

 

[bouncerulove]

my first cycle was eq only 50mgs e.o.d......for about 4-5 weeks, then 100 mgs e.o.d for another 6-7 weeks no anxiety, great pumps, no limp dick, great solid gains........just my personal experience

 

[Texas Ranger]

Big Andy, I see you have Test Enanthate listed in your sample cycle above. What's your opinion of Sustanon/Omnadren?

 

[muscleup]

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