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Is there anything in T-rex that is considered blood thinning, sorta like aspirin? Reason being that I have an outpatient procedure scheduled tomorrow afternoon (2p.m.) and did not want to have anything in my system to negatively affect anesthesia. Last dose of T-rex was at about 4.pm. today.
 
Question about training and T-rex. I am noticing a lot of increased cramping while working out. Is anyone else having this same problem? I am eating banana's with my dose and I am taking two pills twice a day. Any suggestions?
 
kbaker said:
Question about training and T-rex. I am noticing a lot of increased cramping while working out. Is anyone else having this same problem? I am eating banana's with my dose and I am taking two pills twice a day. Any suggestions?

Are you drinking enough water?


In general (with or without T-rex) if I don't drink enough water I cramp up very easily.
 
lil k said:
as an fyi, i am posting a day by day blow of this over at strongchick...if you guys want i can also move it here.....this stufff is awesome, i dont think i will ever use any other fat burner again!

http://www.chemicalmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1627
I'm glad to hear this. I ordered a bottle yesterday then started having second thoughts today, like I should have gotten NYC or yohimburn or something else. Your day by day experience will be so helpful. Thanks for posting it for everyone:D
 
Scarlett33 said:
I'm glad to hear this. I ordered a bottle yesterday then started having second thoughts today, like I should have gotten NYC or yohimburn or something else. Your day by day experience will be so helpful. Thanks for posting it for everyone:D

no problem, i am doing a day by day and week by week over there...i am at day 2 week 2 and i am know on two tabs a day....i will be bumping to three tabs real fast as well...

i have to be honest and say that this stuff is simply the best fat burner on the market, its no wonder the gyms are selling it for $99!
 
I got mine today and am so excited to start it! I'll start in the am cause I'd really rather not have any sleep problems if I can help it! I can't wait to see have this affects me!!!!
 
Scarlett33 said:
I got mine today and am so excited to start it! I'll start in the am cause I'd really rather not have any sleep problems if I can help it! I can't wait to see have this affects me!!!!

make sure to post up and let us know how it is going for you! :)
 
I started seeing results quickly when starting, but realized I have quite a tolerance for thermo's - something I didn't realize. I started off taking 1 pill 3x a day (for 2 days), then went to 1 pill 4x a day for 3-4 days. I am now taking 7 pills a day! 6:30am 2 pills (then do cardio), 9:30am 2 pills, 12:30pm 2 pills, 3:00 1 pill. I am having no "bad" side effects - except a little nausea in the morning, which I just eat a tinybit and it is gone. And I mean a tiny bit - like 5 raspberries!

I have now lost about 7 pounds in a week and a half. And this is without REALLY limiting carbs. Yesterday, I ate a bagel, 4 cookies, a big handful of microwave popcorn (in addition to my normal clean diet). And I still lost 2 pounds since yesterday morning. Plus, this past weekend I was a piggy. :)

I am also using Glucorell-R whenever I eat carbs, even veggies. I just started that the past 2 days though.

I have MAJOR appetite suppression. Food does NOT interest me at all, in fact, sometimes it makes me queasy thinking about eating! Water intake is 1.5-2 gal a day, easy to get down. I am not really thirsty, but when I start drinking, I can't stop. I can easily gulp a liter in one sitting.

Only get heat flashes while doing cardio - nice since it is over 100 degrees here in the desert.

This stuff is great. Will keep updating through the week.
 
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Well as you all know, I said I would never try this stuff again, well I did.


I stoped my CKD. At first I felt really great on it. But then after trying Trex last monday I had a headache that lasted 4 days. I also felt really queasy and couldn't stomach bacon, cheese and salad with ranch dressing anymore. YUCK!!!! I don't think I'll ever eat bacon or cheese again.

So after coming off my CKD I gained back 2 of the 3 pounds I lost. I didn't eat bad at all. I guess it's just water. Needless to say, I was pretty upset as can be seen from one of my other threads.

So, I finally decided to listen to my husband and eat smaller meals throughout the day. 3 Keto Shakes, 3 lean protein, low GI carb, like a sweet potato, or brown rice or a reguler potato. Nothing else. Not a cookie, a crumb and bite a lick, nothing of anything! This was actually a treat after being on CKD for a month and not being able to eat rice. Started this on Monday. Also started taking Trex again. One a day, since Monday.

Monday I was 141.

Today I was 137.2!! Can you believe that? I also upped my cardio a bit. Don't know if it's the diet or the pills, but the damn scale in finally moving!!! Yipeeeeeee!!! So excited. Gonna take my BF this weekend. Now if that went down, I am going to be the happiest girl in the world!


Oh yeah, no sides at all. No headache. A little queesiness in the morning, but I think that's just from eating egg whites. ILL!! I am rocking in the gym. Did a close grip bench for tri's 70 pounds for 6 reps, with a spot. That is a major PR for me. The most I could ever do was 40. I had plenty of energy to strip and rerack the weights for my husband. Usually he does this for both of us, cause I am too tired.

oh and mental focus. Don't know about this one. What I do know is on Monday I parellel parked my car from the left hand side, which I was never able to do.
 
It's been almost couple weeks, taking 4-5 a day, still no weight loss or water loss,I'm a hopeless case. I was hopeing after reading all this I would get atleast some water loss. Guess I'll have to up it. :bawling:
 
Quick Update:

I am down 10-12lbs in 12 days. BF% dropped about 1.5% in that same time. Never hungry, food doesn't interest me. I eat when I feel like it, which is not often at all - major appetite suppression! I have a ton of energy for barely eating. Very little pre-period bloat, no overheating, no shakes. Oh, and now I fit into *everything* in my closet. In the last week, something happened to my clothes - some of them that *just fit* a week ago are now falling off me. I really can't think of any reason to take anything else every again.

FINALLY, some definition is coming back. I am starting to see lines in my legs and abs.
 
How much of an increase in potassium?

I read on the anabolic board trex thread - page umm 37 to limit it to 3-4 99mg pills a day? Is that too much, too little, just right?

And please don't say eat bananas, I like them, but unfortunately they make me vomit. I do eat lots of broccoli (well lots compared to a normal person - not compared to Ceebs) and other moderately rich potassium rich foods.
 
I took pills, which I am sure are not as absorbable (is that a word? :) ) as, say, a banana, but I am keeping my carbs low and am not really eating fruit right now.

I took around 3-5 a day - dependant on my water and sodium intake.
 
TAKING A BREAK FROM THERMOREXIN?

Ulter/Macro - I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I can't remember a definitive answer.

I have been taking T-Rex for 2 weeks straight, is it recommended to "cycle" it, maybe take NYC for a couple weeks, then start T-Rex back up for a couple weeks? Will this help your gains/losses at all? Since I am getting good results from the T-Rex, with no "bad" effects, should I just stay on it?
 
Intresting. I never thought of cycling it, but then again I never cycled ECA.

I plan on using t-rex for about 2-3 months straight when I start cutting, but I am still not sure. Lil K, is doing awesome on her t-rex. Damn good product.
 
I honestly don't think it's working for me. I've even gone on a CKD to see what would happen. Nothing is coming off, even on NINE tabs a day.

Alicia
 
Pink Space Biscuit said:
I do eat lots of broccoli (well lots compared to a normal person - not compared to Ceebs) and other moderately rich potassium rich foods.

I did a search for my name and the word "broccoli", and I only got 34 hits. Somehow I was expecting more. :(
 
i am up to 4 tabs ed now, and doing great, i think i may get up to 5-6 tabs soon.....
 
Re: TAKING A BREAK FROM THERMOREXIN?

Daisy_Girl said:
Ulter/Macro - I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I can't remember a definitive answer.

I have been taking T-Rex for 2 weeks straight, is it recommended to "cycle" it, maybe take NYC for a couple weeks, then start T-Rex back up for a couple weeks? Will this help your gains/losses at all? Since I am getting good results from the T-Rex, with no "bad" effects, should I just stay on it?

Bumping my own question... :D
 
I agree with Daisy Girl i had to up the dose to 6 per day 2 at a time to feel any appetite supression. And it's finally working! Food? That which used to comsume my every thought??..I'm so busy keeping busy I lose track of time...oh that reminds me its way past time for chicken and rice..gotta go...
 
ArtsyChic said:
I honestly don't think it's working for me. I've even gone on a CKD to see what would happen. Nothing is coming off, even on NINE tabs a day.

Alicia

NINE tabs? And nothing?

That sucks.
 
I'd like to point out to Ulter and Macro - as a complicated migraine sufferer - over the past two weeks while taking three tabs per day my migraines have lessened dramatically.

I need more time to see if there's a connection or just coincidence in timing.
 
ulter said:
DG just stay on it. You can ride it for 8 weeks no problem. I am.

Thanks Ulter. I was getting such great results with it, I'd hate to stop! :D

Using Thermorexin, along with GlucorellR is absolutely amazing. While I know I can diet without it, why, when the two together make it so easy? :)
 
Yes..nine tabs..nothing, notta, zilch. I even tried a CKD..and continued to get nothing. No appetite supression, no increased trips to the bathroom, a little heat...and no fat loss. Is it possible I got a dud batch? I'm serious now.

Alicia
 
I saw the best results the first week on it. I was eating every 2-3 hours.

Breakfast:
3 egg whites, bowl of plain oatmeal
Meal 1
chicken breast(3 oz), 4 0z Yam
Meal 2
chicken breast(3 oz), 4 0z Yam
Meal 3
Keto Shake
Meal 4(post workout)
Keto Shake


I totally cut our my salt. I took 1 pill every morning for the first week and lost 6 pounds. I weighed in at 136.8. Then I self sabotaged myself on the 4th of July and just couldn't get back on track. Now I am back to 140 as of this morning. I am taking 4 pills a day, but my diet wasn't great this week. I am leaving for Punta Cana tomorrow morning. I will start hard core dieting again on July 19th.

Hopefully this will help you Artsy.
 
ArtsyChic said:
Yes..nine tabs..nothing, notta, zilch. I even tried a CKD..and continued to get nothing. No appetite supression, no increased trips to the bathroom, a little heat...and no fat loss. Is it possible I got a dud batch? I'm serious now.

Alicia

Your solution of using CKD to make it work better was backwards. Low carbs makes it work less efficiently.

I would need a little history from you to know what the problem is. No one I know takes 9 and doesn't feel it. That's the equivalent of 9 cups of Starbucks, and that's just in caffeine. Of course anything is possible.
Last time someone reported this type of reaction to it though was a girl coming off a 5 year speed habit. Of course she didn't feel it.

Have you used other thermos in the past?
What was your reaction to them?
Were you taking any before you started Thermorexin?
Do you drink a lot of coffee during the day?
Have you used other thermos in the past?
What was your reaction to them?
Were you taking any before you started Thermorexin?
Do you drink a lot of coffee during the day?
 
velvett said:
I'd like to point out to Ulter and Macro - as a complicated migraine sufferer - over the past two weeks while taking three tabs per day my migraines have lessened dramatically.

I need more time to see if there's a connection or just coincidence in timing.

wow, thats cool! i hope that keeps working for you as i know how bad those can be!
 
Some more info. So we've been house-sitting the last 2 weeks and during this time my wife has lost 3 kg. And she hasn't even taken t-rex every day and when she takes it it's still 1 pill a day.

About that 3 kg, what do you people think? Mostly water or fat? My guess is that since it's been rather moderate speed (about 2 lbs/week) it's mainly water. Oh, and her fingers are getting "leaner" since her rings are getting easier to move up and down the finger.

Anyway 3kg is great. I'm more into centimeters and inches though. We go back home tomorrow and hopefully we can find our measuring tape to see how that weight loss equals to the tape.



Now, if she would just take it every day and even 2 on most days...
 
Think I'm going to order the Thermorexin/Glucorell-R/Yohimburn DF package, since I'm almost out of Yohimburn. This is a great deal!
 
Just got my Thermorexin. I took 1 pill yesterday morning with a banana. Started to feel a bit more awake within 45 minutes. My office is extremely cold, so I'm normally freezing. Within an hour I warmed up a bit, no more goosebumps. That only lasted an hour or two though... then I was freezing again. After about an hour and half I felt a little sick to my stomach (this could've just been hunger), had a small snack and it went away.

I didn't notice any appetite suppression. In fact, I was more hungry than usual all day (and I ate my normal amount of food). I didn't have any jitters or sweating. At night I got a really bad headache, not sure what it was from.

We'll see what happens today.
 
I had the same results yesterday and today as I did on the first day. I feel more awake and am starving all day long. I've been having headaches again at the end of every day.... haven't narrowed it down to the thermorexin though.
 
Ulter and/or Macro-

I just ordered Thermorexin this last Wednesday. I just have a few questions for you so that I can be ready to start ASAP when I get this in the mail. My diet consists of 40%P, 40%C, and 20%F.

1.) I have r-ALA that I am currently taking with my carb meals. When I start taking Thermorexin, when do I take my ALA? Can it be taken with Thermorexin?

2.) I do my cardio and lifting in the morning right away when I wake up. How long do I have to wait after taking Thermorexin in the morning before I can start my workout? Just concerned because I already get up at 5:15 am to get my workout in before I have to go to work.

3.) I am currently drinking between 1 - 1.5 gallons of water per day. Is this enough, or should I up the water once I start the Thermorexin?

Thanks A LOT for any feedback!!

I will be posting my feedback once I get the product and start to take it...

:)
 
lucidBlue said:
I had the same results yesterday and today as I did on the first day. I feel more awake and am starving all day long. I've been having headaches again at the end of every day.... haven't narrowed it down to the thermorexin though.

Day 3 and 4 were the same. I think, the headaches are from the outdoor heat and my allergies. I'm surprised I'm not sweating like everyone else. NYC made me sweat a lot.
 
LB,

How's your water intake? If you are not drinking atleast a gallon you need to up it. Also, are you eating carbs? Try eating some and also try a bananna. That should make the headaches go away. The same thing happened to me. Good Luck.
 
LB I agree with flexygirl. Your describing dehydration and lack of carbs.

(1.) I have r-ALA that I am currently taking with my carb meals. When I start taking Thermorexin, when do I take my ALA? Can it be taken with Thermorexin?



If you're using Thermorexin you can take Glucorell R. In fact it's a good idea to use them together because you need more carbs to fire the Thermorexin flames up. So take the Glucorell R as usual 10 minutes before a carb meal.



2.) I do my cardio and lifting in the morning right away when I wake up. How long do I have to wait after taking Thermorexin in the morning before I can start my workout? Just concerned because I already get up at 5:15 am to get my workout in before I have to go to work.

The longer the better but 15 minutes minimum.

3.) I am currently drinking between 1 - 1.5 gallons of water per day. Is this enough, or should I up the water once I start the Thermorexin?

That's fine
 
ulter said:
LB I agree with flexygirl. Your describing dehydration and lack of carbs.

That's fine

I drink about a gallon of water a day. I eat a lot of carbs... I'm not on any type of low carb diet. The only time I "try" to not eat carbs is at night (during the week that is).
 
LB,

Did you try a bananna? You may be lacking potassium. A bananna with the Trex will help. It's an awesome product. But the headaches can really be too much. Also, I got headaches when taking 3 a day. Hope some of this helps.
 
flexygrl said:
LB,

Did you try a bananna? You may be lacking potassium. A bananna with the Trex will help. It's an awesome product. But the headaches can really be too much. Also, I got headaches when taking 3 a day. Hope some of this helps.

I really think the headaches are from my allergies... I ran out of allergy meds and haven't had the prescriptions re-written yet.
 
Day one of Thermorexin...

Just wanted to post my results after day one...

First off, my diet consists of 50%C, 40%P, 10%F. I was on 40/40/20, but decided to up the carbs after reading a lot of posts. Almost all of my carbs come from fruit and some vegetables, very little bread (if any, 100% whole wheat), some brown rice.

Took one pill at 5 am with a banana and 20 oz water...did HIIT cardio about 30-40 minutes later.

Not much appetite suppression at all. I was hungry by the time I usually eat breakfast (about an hour or so after w/o)

A little more heat during cardio, but not too much. No extra heat throughout the day either.

I seem to be more focused today and less tired, too.

I will keep posting my thoughts on this product as my days of use increase...

PS - What is a good amount of carbs/day to eat while on this??
 
Day Two...

Well, for the rest of day one, I felt great. I didn't get tired until later on in the evening when it was time for bed, and I slept great. I woke up before my alarm and was ready to get up, only to find that I had time to sleep yet. (which, is VERY rare for me...usually I hit snooze like 10 times!!)

This morning, I took one pill at 5 a.m. and did my lifting w/o about 35 minutes later. I feel wide awake again today and ready to go at work.

I am not feeling much appetite suppression or heat, however. I may up the number of pills to 2 per day either today or tomorrow...
 
PinkPanther said:


I am not feeling much appetite suppression or heat, however. I may up the number of pills to 2 per day either today or tomorrow...

I have felt zero appetite suppression, in fact I'm always starving. I have started to feel a bit more heat though. I may try 2 tomorrow.
 
LucidBlue,

Let me know how two works for you...I am going to try two today too. I took one at 5:30 and will take another one around 12:00 noon...I will let you know how I feel.
 
PinkPanther said:
LucidBlue,

Let me know how two works for you...I am going to try two today too. I took one at 5:30 and will take another one around 12:00 noon...I will let you know how I feel.

I will keep you posted. I took the first one at 9:30. Gonna take the second at 2ish.
 
I felt some differences after taking the second Thermorexin today. Definitely felt much much more alert and more energy. Everything seemed more crisp. Could feel a bit more heat, but nothing extraordinary. Still don't feel any appetite suppression.

Let's see what happens tomorrow.
 
Well, yesterday I took three throughout the day. One at 5 a.m., one at noon, and one at 5:30 p.m. Still no real appetite suppression and by 9:30, I was tired enough to go to bed. Today I tried two at 5 a.m., and I feel a little more awake, but still didn't feel any appetite suppression. I am worried that because I am not feeling any side effects that it's not working for me!?!?
 
Macro... any reason the thermorexin is making me so hungry? I mean I'm the type of person that is always hungry, but this is unreal. I am absolutely starving all the time. I guess this could be good b/c it could be that it's increasing my metabolism, but why am I not feeling the appetite suppression?
 
PinkPanther,

side effects are not the indicator of effectiveness. however if you want "stronger" effects, take 1 cap every 2-2.5 with your current schedule that will be 4-6 caps.

some people need more to feel the stim effects.

btw- are you a smoker? smoking raises liver enzymes that break down the methylxanthine in t-rex.
 
I too had a problem with increased hunger when I first began taking T-rex. However, once I increased my carbs and H2O intake, the appetite suppression kicked in. I had absolutely no appetite suppression until I increased those two things.

Oh and I decreased my coffee consumption. For whatever reason that one factor has helped tremendously with appetite suppression. Hope this helps.:)
 
takniteasy said:
I too had a problem with increased hunger when I first began taking T-rex. However, once I increased my carbs and H2O intake, the appetite suppression kicked in. I had absolutely no appetite suppression until I increased those two things.

Oh and I decreased my coffee consumption. For whatever reason that one factor has helped tremendously with appetite suppression. Hope this helps.:)

I probably drink a little more than a gallon of water a day. I am not on any type of low carb diet. i probably have at least 30-40 grams of carbs with each meal, except at night (but I only take T-rex during the day).

I don't smoke. I barely drink coffee anymore. I'm not on any of the drugs that macro listed in another thread that could inhibit effectiveness.
 
i agree about the hunger thing.
i just tried 6 capsuels spread out over three days. and i was DAMN hungry all the time. and i am never hungry!!
 
macrophage69alpha said:
lucidblue,

how many caps are you at a day?
and how long have you been on?

I'm taking 2 per day. One at 9am and one at 2pm. I know I can't take these at night because I have sleeping problems. This is then end of week 2 on t-rex.
 
try bumping take one at 9am, one at 11-11:30, one at 1:30-2pm.

if you feel fine go 1 at 9am,11am, 1pm, 3pm

some people just need a higher dose for the appetite suppression
 
I just wanted to post that I have been taking 1 cap every 2-2.5 hours throughout the day, taking my last one between 5:00 and 6:00 p.m. I still am not seeing any appetite suppression, but I think that I do get more of the alert feeling. How long have you guys been on this before you really started seeing results? Just curious...

Thanks :)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
try bumping take one at 9am, one at 11-11:30, one at 1:30-2pm.

if you feel fine go 1 at 9am,11am, 1pm, 3pm

some people just need a higher dose for the appetite suppression

Tried this yesterday. Still did not feel the appetite suppression. I'm going to give four a try today. I did feel more heat and definitely more awake. Let's see what happens with 4.
 
Should I take Thermorexin on my one "cheat" day for the week? What if I know I will be consuming alcohol? Should I not take it at all that whole day, or can I take it, but just not right before I drink? Thanks...
 
PinkPanther said:
Should I take Thermorexin on my one "cheat" day for the week? What if I know I will be consuming alcohol? Should I not take it at all that whole day, or can I take it, but just not right before I drink? Thanks...

it may increase intoxication, at least rapidity of onset, and alcohol may decrease the metabolism of some of the constituents.

it may also speed clearance of alcohol.

though see of no reasons that it cannot be taken
 
Thanks :)

I just wanted to be sure!

Also, I have been now taking two caps, three times a day with each of my main meals. I have been feeling more of the "heat" this way, but still no appetite suppression. Oh well...at least I am feeling something...
 
try taking them 1 at a time every 1-2hrs as opposed to 2 at once.

if there are no issues, take them between meals.

though not everyone will get appetite suppression
 
Macro -

I did try to take 1 cap every 2 hours or so, but it didn't seem to do it for appetite suppression either. I think I will keep on with the two at a time 3 times a day with my meals for a while, since that's at least giving me some heat...

Thank a lot for all the help :)
 
some people wont get appetite suppression,

if you can tolerate- try 8 caps, just to see if appetite suppression kicks in.. if not, synephrine (which is the main appetite suppresant) is just not effective for you.
 
I will try to do 8 and see what happens. I just came down with a bad cold, so I will maybe wait to up it to 8 until I am feeling better and have more of an appetite...
 
Well, just thought I would post my results so far. I have been on T-Rex now for a month and like two days. However, I have not seen ANY real changes. I don't have any of the side effects and I have not lost anything. I have followed my diet as strictly as possible, with only a few days of straying due to b-days, baby showers, and a wedding. I am now up to 8 caps a day, which I think is CRAZY, but I wanted to see if that would do anything. I am so bummed that this stuff didn't work for me since I have read so much other great feedback on here and other boards...
 
this is very odd.

couple of q's.

(odd one so dont take offense)- have you have been addicted to methamphetamines or amphetamines (or similar)?

are you or have you been a heavy smoker?

just the caffiene alone from that dosage is 800mg and 24mg of yohimbine (thats a large amount by themselves)

also were you dieting? because for you to not lose any weight or see any changes in body comp over a month (regardless of taking a fatburner or not) you should have seen SOME progress...

its perplexing......
 
Ok...well, for one, I haven't been taking 8/day for very long. I started out slow with only like one or two a day for a while, then I just kept on slowly upping the dose. I am almost out now since I've started taking 8/day...they go pretty fast when taking that many! NO, I have NEVER even tried any methamphetamines or amphetamines. Not offended, just wanted to make that very clear. I did however used to be a pretty heavy smoker. I am thinking that that maybe has something to do with it. I don't smoke anymore, just on a rare occasion, but I used to smoke quite a bit. Yes, I was dieting. I was doing about a 40/30/30 (P/C/F) with about about 1250-1300 calories. After doing some other posting, I was told that this wasn't enough calories, so now I have been eating around 1600 per day, but with the same ratios. Macro, do you have any suggestions to any other fat burners that may work better for me? Thanks for all your help...
 
have you ever tried the basic
EC (without the A) stack
not ephedra but with ephedrine


it seems like you may have some serious metabolic issues if you lost not a single pound in almost 5 weeks or that your diet may have more calories than you realize.

its really quite difficult to say

could you post your workout
weight
est bodyfat
age
areas of fat concentration (if any)
carb sensitivity ( do lots of carbs make you extremely sleepy)
and any other info you may think is relevant
 
Ulter/Macro

First, sorry it took me so long to get this info back to you guys...I was out of town for the past four days and didn't have access to or the time to sit at a computer, so just getting to one now...

Ulter - Yes, I did try taking 2 caps 3 times a day for about two weeks and didn't see anything different, so that's why I upped it to 8 caps/day (2 caps, 4x/day). I am 22 years old - will be 23 in January.

Macro - Here is my info...

My current height is 5'5". I weigh 135 lbs as of last Friday (haven't weighed myself since b/c I was on vacation - may have gone up a few pounds from being away from home and not watching my diet at all.) Like I said before, I will be 23 in a couple months.

My w/o looks like this:
Mondays/Wednesdays/Fridays are my lifting days. I have been switching every other week doing two days lower body, one day upper body. Then, the next week is two days of upper body, one day lower body. For lower body, my w/o consists of squats, leg extensions, thigh presses (in and out), and calf raises. For upper body I do bench, rows, flys, sometimes front/side raises, and lat pull-downs. I do each one 3 sets of 8.
On Tuesdays/Thursdays/Saturdays I do my cardio. I have been playing around with HIIT on my exercise bike, sometimes I just go for a fast-paced walk, some mornings I run. I usually do around 20-30 minutes of cardio - depending on whether or not I am doing HIIT.


Most of the fat areas that I have are my lower back, hips, and inner thighs. My abs aren't too bad, but they could lose some, too. I really don't think that my metabolism is the issue here. I've never really had a weight problem or been overweight. I just really want to get back down to like 125 lbs. That is what I weighed about 6-7 months ago when I was taking the original NYC. Also, I don't think that I am getting in more calories than what I told you above. I track everything that I eat EVERY day on fitday.com, and I am really anal about getting everything in there that I eat/drink. I have been more strict with my diet now than I was while on NYC. The only difference would be that I probably have drank more often than when I was on NYC. I know that alcohol will do that to ya, but I pretty much would only drink once a week (on my cheat day).

Any feedback/advice on what fat burners may be more effective, or anything I should change in my diet and/or workout is much appreciated. I am planning on starting some sort of new plan on Monday, so it would help to hear what you have to say so that I can be prepared to start fresh...

Thanks a lot for all your help :)
 
have you tried EPHEDRINE HCL AND CAFFIENE stack?- basic thermogen
Have your tried Glucorell?- insulin sensitivity (carb issues)
have your tried Yohimburn DF- stubborn fat
Oral yohimbine (other than NYC)? stubborn fat
Liporexin- increased basal metabolism and improved lipolysis

as far as your cardio
20-30min of HIT followed by 15-20 additional minutes of moderate intensity will provide much better fat loss results

and

Every day you workout you need to lift- on cardio days do smaller body parts (ie NOT LEGS)

those two reccs alone, and/or coupled with fat burning choice(s), will make a vast difference in fat loss and muscle "tone".

btw- what is macro nutrient profile of diet?
 
btw- even one night of drinking (even just moderate) can do a real number on your fat losses. its not just the calories but also the negative impact on insulin sensitivity and estrogen.
 
Macro -

No, I have not tried any of those. I just ordered some ECA, so I will be trying that as soon as I get it. What would you recommend taking for an Oral yohimbine? Can this be taken with ECA, or would you rotate them?

Also, one quick question about the cardio advice you gave me...when you said "Every day you workout you need to lift- on cardio days do smaller body parts (ie NOT LEGS)" do you mean that I should do weights 6 days a week then and just do lighter stuff on the days I do cardio also? Sorry, I just thought that cardio and weights should be done on seperate days...

Thanks :)
 
You don't necessarily have to do weights and cardio on different days, but maybe different times. For example, do cardio in the morning and weights in the evening of the same day.
 
Should I really be doing weights 6 days a week, though? I've always done weights three days and cardio three days...

What kind of routine would I follow??
 
Personally, I wouldn't do weights 6x per week. That makes me tired and achey just thinking about it! :) Cardio I can do 6x a week, weights I can't!

Weights 3-4x a week I think is plenty, but everyone is different. I think that if you hit each body part 1-2 times each week, that is good - at least that is what I found works best for me.

How do YOU think you should change your workouts? Do you fee like you could add another weight training day? Do you feel like you could do more cardio? Try tuning into your body and seeing how IT feels - that might give you an answer. When I stand back and evaluate how I feel after each workout, and at the end of each week, I can usually "see" or "feel" what I need to change. For example, if I don't feel like I pushed enough weight around, I'll add another weight training day or increase the intensity the next week. Cardio, well, I like doing cardio, so I always do that! :)
 
Macro or Ulter:

Would anything in Thermorexin show up on a drug test? I have to take one for a new job by Wednesday. I'm guessing the answer is no, but you never know with some herbs. Thanks.
 
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