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There seems to be a BIG problem with a MOD at AR

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I'm not going to call einstein1905, Mod at anabolicreview.com and other boards, a scammer since I don't want this thread to be deleted BUT there seems to be is a serious problem here. This guy offered a "pre-order" deal on GH kits for $150 per kit. That's right $150 per kit! Talk about one hell of a deal right? Anyway, as the old saying goes, "if it sounds too good to be true it usually is!" He used his postion as a Mod and the fact that he was well-respected in our community to secure people's confidence including sources that buy in bulk.

So far, there is over $30,000 in funds collected and einstein1905 is MIA and has been for a while. I don't know if this was planned, spontaneous or whether einstein1905 himself got screwed but many people are out some big dollars. Now this guy also Mod's at the following boards:

MOD@
www.anabolicreview.com
www.bigdogbodybuilding.com
www.musclesci.com
www.outlawmuscle.com
xtrememass.com
Steroid-ology.com

If anyone knows how to reach this guy or is personal friends with him please try to talk some sense into him. He will not get away with this. Scamming individuals is one thing but scamming sources with resources is a whole different story. I liked einstein1905 and thought he was a very knowledgable asset to our community. I can only hope for his sake he does the right thing here but it's highly doubtful at this point. Too much time has already passed.
 
Juice Authority said:
I'm not going to call einstein1905, Mod at anabolicreview.com and other boards, a scammer since I don't want this thread to be deleted BUT there seems to be is a serious problem here. This guy offered a "pre-order" deal on GH kits for $150 per kit. That's right $150 per kit! Talk about one hell of a deal right? Anyway, as the old saying goes, "if it sounds too good to be true it usually is!" He used his postion as a Mod and the fact that he was well-respected in our community to secure people's confidence including sources that buy in bulk.

So far, there is over $30,000 in funds collected and einstein1905 is MIA and has been for a while. I don't know if this was planned, spontaneous or whether einstein1905 himself got screwed but many people are out some big dollars. Now this guy also Mod's at the following boards:

MOD@
www.anabolicreview.com
www.bigdogbodybuilding.com
www.musclesci.com
www.outlawmuscle.com
xtrememass.com
Steroid-ology.com

If anyone knows how to reach this guy or is personal friends with him please try to talk some sense into him. He will not get away with this. Scamming individuals is one thing but scamming sources with resources is a whole different story. I liked einstein1905 and thought he was a very knowledgable asset to our community. I can only hope for his sake he does the right thing here but it's highly doubtful at this point. Too much time has already passed.
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MESO is in an uproar over this......Einstein fucked me, Toughbody and dozens of others out of like $20,000

We have his ISP information and his physical address.....and we are going to fuck this bitch up!
 
he posts here too i think. he types all this sophisticated shit about molecules and hgh and people get persuaded by it. a perfect example of same situation fonz
 
PRESIDENT KERRY said:
MESO is in an uproar over this......Einstein fucked me, Toughbody and dozens of others out of like $20,000

We have his ISP information and his physical address.....and we are going to fuck this bitch up!
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I hear you but the purpose of this thread is to 1) get the word out and 2) try to reach someone that knows him on a personal level that can convince him to do the right thing. I honestly fear for the guy's safety at this point. I don't see a very good outcome for him should he decide fuck everyone.
 
georgie24 said:
he posts here too i think. he types all this sophisticated shit about molecules and hgh and people get persuaded by it. a perfect example of same situation fonz
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Yes, he does post here under the same user name and I must admit, I too was very surprised by this. I would have trusted him with my money. Thank God I didn't order from him but I considered it.
 
PRESIDENT KERRY said:
MESO is in an uproar over this......Einstein fucked me, Toughbody and dozens of others out of like $20,000

We have his ISP information and his physical address.....and we are going to fuck this bitch up!
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His address? Really? Post it or PM me with it! :evil:
 
PRESIDENT KERRY said:
EINSTEIN'S REAL NAME AND ADDRESS:


EDIT...you scumbag
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The admin has allowed this thread to stay with the exception that NO PERSONAL INFO IS POSTED AND THAT THE PM SYSTEM IS NOT USED TO RELAY PERSONAL INFO ABOUT einstein1905

Please respect their wishes on that.
 
What are the chances that a - person who does not deliver the goods - will just turn over their customers' information in retaliation for any physical threat?
 
dragon14 said:
What are the chances that a - person who does not deliver the goods - will just turn over their customers' information in retaliation for any physical threat?
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By doing that he would be implicating himself. LE is not so much interesting in the buyer as they are in the supplier.
 
I never order more $250 at a time, which is all I'm willing to lose. It also pretty much keeps me out of the GH game.
 
Juice Authority said:
The admin has allowed this thread to stay with the exception that NO PERSONAL INFO IS POSTED AND THAT THE PM SYSTEM IS NOT USED TO RELAY PERSONAL INFO ABOUT einstein1905

Please respect their wishes on that.
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Guys, it seem like there is enough proof. Everybody should be warned not to send money to this dude.

However, we can not let EF become the staging area for physical attacks on anybody... Keep any and all conspiracy off our boards or PM system.


Use e-mail for all of that.
 
everyone should RUN when they are presented pre orders... here's why

1. source doesnt have the fucking CAPITAL to make initial wholesale purchase
2. source wants to test waters to see if business is there
3. source wants guaranteed business

PRE ORDERS ARE SIGNS OF BAD BUSINESS
 
PRESIDENT KERRY said:
Damn right!

FONZ=SAMMY=SCAMMER
EINSTEIN=BITCH=SCAMMER!
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talk about the pot calling the kettle black. why were you banned from meso again??? Oh thats right, you are a fucking scammer. Get the hell out of here. Phreezer owned your ass. Every hit this fuck-ass with neg karma till it gets his ass banned.
 
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Guvna said:
talk about the pot calling the kettle black. why were you banned from meso again??? Oh thats right, you are a fucking scammer. Get the hell out of here. Phreezer owned your ass. Every hit this fuck-ass with neg karma till it gets his ass banned.
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He was banned from Meso? He was posting there all day. :confused:
 
I can't figure out why he didn't scam me though. I fronted him a bunch of Tren Enanthate the same time all these HGH orders were being placed, and he could have easily just walked like he did with all the HGH orders, but he didn't. Guess I'll consider myself lucky, I dunno.
 
The Terminator said:
If the source does NOT have the items IN STOCK, they should NOT be taking money for them, imo :o
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thats my point. a strong business man would never offer something he didnt have. now if it was pre-orders for the 2005 lamborghini gallardo at the dealer thats different. thats justifiable PRE ORDER :p
 
This really sux as from a knowledge and sharing standpoint he was a huge asset to many of the boards I frequent. I truly hope this turns out to be a huge misunderstanding. Unfortuantley from what I understand from a few mod PMs on another board its not looking that way.
 
jcam222 said:
This really sux as from a knowledge and sharing standpoint he was a huge asset to many of the boards I frequent. I truly hope this turns out to be a huge misunderstanding. Unfortuantley from what I understand from a few mod PMs on another board its not looking that way.
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He seems to have ignored mails and PM's from many so it does not look good

Wrongun!
 
ulter said:
I can't believe people fall for this almost every year.
A couple years ago it was $5 Zambons, then Cool Hand Luke did it with $5 primos.
Now this guy with $150 gh.

If Eistein doesn't live in the US and that's what I was told, his address isn't going to help many people.
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He lives in NY.
 
i hear he is moving....i hope it is just a temp thing that his communication is missing ie internet, cell phone....because to scam end users is one thing, when u scam SOURCES who know A LOT of people all over the place....shit seems to start getting very bad!
 
ulter said:
I can't believe people fall for this almost every year.
A couple years ago it was $5 Zambons, then Cool Hand Luke did it with $5 primos.
Now this guy with $150 gh.

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lol soooo true. i was just thinking this as i was reading this thread!


BTW, i can get you guys dbols for 10cents each. send me the money!
 
alltraps said:
lol soooo true. i was just thinking this as i was reading this thread!


BTW, i can get you guys dbols for 10cents each. send me the money!
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Actually... thats kind of expensive....





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BigAndy69 said:
That's where problems begin for many sources.
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so true, some are too afraid to say they dont have something in stock. Doesnt bother me, as at least I know labels arent getting switched or anything else shady
 
First of all, Phreezer is an asshole. I never scammed anyone, AND NOBODY EVER ACCUSED ME OF SCAMMING.

I used to have the name, TheDoctor, and he banned my username because I was selling Valiums. But they let others on that board sell them.

Hypocrites.
 
PRESIDENT KERRY said:
First of all, Phreezer is an asshole. I never scammed anyone, AND NOBODY EVER ACCUSED ME OF SCAMMING.

I used to have the name, TheDoctor, and he banned my username because I was selling Valiums. But they let others on that board sell them.

Hypocrites.
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so he just didnt like you right??? :rolleyes:

you were banned because you scammed under a different name and were too dumb to use a proxy so the admin wouldnt know it was the same person.


i wouldnt mind to see if you and crazy k are the same person either.
 
ulter said:
I can't believe people fall for this almost every year.
A couple years ago it was $5 Zambons, then Cool Hand Luke did it with $5 primos.
Now this guy with $150 gh.

If Eistein doesn't live in the US and that's what I was told, his address isn't going to help many people.
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Agreed!
 
Guvna said:
so he just didnt like you right??? :rolleyes:

you were banned because you scammed under a different name and were too dumb to use a proxy so the admin wouldnt know it was the same person.


i wouldnt mind to see if you and crazy k are the same person either.
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No offense to you but please keep this crap off my thread. Thanks.
 
ulter speaks the truth, if you are a poster here or any other board year round you would know what he is talking aboout.

karma for ulter


now who;s gonna fall for the 10mg anavar btg's for 1.50 a piece
 
BigAndy69 said:
That's where problems begin for many sources.
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Yes, I have seen that type of thing happen a few times...
This is why I think its paramount to keep a tight hold on when you actually find a golden source who does follow the practice of only selling what he has in stock (not what is expected to come in stock)...(i.e. Generico :o)
 
oh god generico... he couldnt keep up with the anavar price he advertized.... he could of done really well had he been on the ball....who knows he prolly still here under diff handle
 
just read a post on ar saying that it was not only einstein that turned scammer, a guy going by the name da bull was in on it to.
 
I know hindsight is 20/20 but really 150 for a gh kit? How many IU are we talking? 100? You guys should know better.
 
Posted by MBarasoVET at Meso:

Hey guys,
Alot of you don't know me but I MOD over at AR and I know alot of you guys over here got taken by this guy so I thought I'd post this update over here so all of you know who his partner (DaBull) was.
If anyone has any questions for me PM me over at AR: MBaraso


http://forums.anabolicreview.com/showthread.php?t=122528

As everyone knows, Einstein was a mod here and was very helpful and respected for a while. Also, most know that einstein decided to turn scammer. To ensure the safety of AR, admin (BC) looked into einstein's messages as he was banned for scamming a total of around 10k total (give or take a few) from a number of members. See for yourself a little bit of what was going on for the last few months:


1. A PM from Da Bull to Ein

From: Da Bull
To: einstein1905
Date: 2004-08-09 21:31
Title: Re: yep
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yep...we seem to be sold out before we even have the first order.Come up with a clever hushmail name for the account.
I've sent 6 ppl to our other kitty,so things are shaping up there.4 of the 6 seem like desperate buyers.So we'll see what shakes on that end.
einstein1905 said:
Sure, I'll set one up......there will be at least a 2 week lag though, so i don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves......it's just too easy not to though
Da Bull said:
The spider has already spun a new web. I'll be waiting.
do you think it's time to get an e mail addy together,so I can resend the referrals back to you?

2.
From: Da Bull
To: einstein1905
Date: 2004-08-09 21:33
Title: Re: yep
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ROFLMFAOOOO...that's priceless.
einstein1905 said:
cheapjino@cyber-rights

passphrase (if you want to ever check it):
#####kits
I'm so clever
Da Bull said:
The spider has already spun a new web. I'll be waiting.
do you think it's time to get an e mail addy together,so I can resend the referrals back to you?


3.
From: Da Bull
To: einstein1905
Date: 2004-08-09 22:01
Title: Another happy camper
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This is from one of my referrals earlier this evening.I love when they thank me.


"Bro I have to thank you again, I just got the email of the prices and I am bouncing off the walls. He is so much cheaper than anyone I have seen, even better than straight from a mex vet. I have never tried any human grade so I am gonna order some test to see if he comes through. I will be using you as my reference, so if everything works out I am gonna order a whole bunch."


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einstein1905 said:
Whew! Got it.....Mr xxxxx is sending funds tomorrow, so everything will be back on course....I gave him the option of the same price at a lower volume, because we need the initial startup funds. I'm thinking hop on meso this weekend to generate preorders...if we can get some guys to preorder, we'll be set. guys will wait 1-2 weeks for those prices....hopefully it won't come to that....I get paid again friday and will put out another order then or Monday
Da Bull said:
Well let's hope he funds the first go around.After that it really doesn't matter too much.Our own little stock will keep us in action.We'll just reinvest and let things build up.

From RON, and he will confirm this:
"Xxxx got taken for $3500 from Einy. Not only did DaBull set up the whole thing BUT he also told xxxx that he and Einy were partners in the whole thing. I know xxxx personally and I trust what he says. I know he was banned from here for Soliciting but that was BS just because he was new and trusted Hoss to get him clients and hoss goes and openly PMs people. No matter what some of you may think of xxxx I heard about the deal from him before it went down and it was pretty crappy."
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was just going to post that JA

einstein lives in my home town btw, but I heard he covered his tracks well. If not ill pay him a visit.
 
Pre-orders are a recipe for disaster.

I only order from sources that have had satisfied customers and a track record. And no orders over like $200 or so. Keeps my risks livable. I've had speeding tickets more than that.
 
I do not feel Da Bull had anything to do with the scamming, and I have good reasons to believe this. Yes, he and I talked about HGH and I was going to take 10 kits at a time. He mentioned that it wasn't him selling it but rather a guy we both knew well and respected. I wanted in, he told me there were already a bunch of orders to fill and that it would probably be a couple weeks before I could get an order in. He very well could have had me sending money that very next day, but he didn't. I even asked if I'd be sending the money to him and he replied, "No, nothing is sent to or from me." So if he is a scammer why not take my $2,000? I was ready and willing to send the money! Did he refer some people to Einstein? Yeah, sure, as would I with Einsteins reputation (prior to this). Did he take part in the scamming? I highly doubt it. Its guilt by association, and its unfortunate, cause he truely was a good guy.
 
georgie24 said:
if he is inocent then why not step forward and fight and deny all acusations? again the waiting game.....

fonz?
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If he's innocent, and steps forward, surely were all wont participate in his beating.
 
Those posted PMs are a bit confusing....some of them truly sound as though they were trying to gather investment capital and truly sell product while others it seems unsure.........
 
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