There never was a Jesus

[silver_shadow]

look i didn't say that i'm inviting someone to make my life miserable. but when shitty things do happen, there is precious little i can do- rather than gripe abt my luck and stew abt it, i can let it go a lot easier by just accepting that misery is as much a part of life as happiness. that sounds simplistic i know but it has helped me get on with my life when i broke up with the girl i loved more than anything else, or when i lost my mum to cancer when i was 19.

 

[Robert Jan]

another nice way to get along would be to go on LSD every day of your life

 

[silver_shadow]

what's ur point?

 

[Robert Jan]

That While im discussing things rationally you let me know you decided to make up some theory you dont support but makes things easier to deal with

 

[silver_shadow]

what theory did i make up which i don't support??!! now u really have me foxed!

 

[Robert Jan]

You say its ok there is pain because it creates balance. But you dont want anything to happen to your family, so you do know it sucks.

 

[silver_shadow]

You say its ok there is pain because it creates balance. But you dont want anything to happen to your family, so you do know it sucks.

ok- i'll try to elaborate.

i still say pain is necessary- that isn't entirely what i "made up", ie it isn't really original (but that doesn't matter). all great ppl including jesus (if he did exist) brought suffering upon THEMSELVES. the distinction has to be made between entirely personal suffering and suffering involving others. when i wish suffering on my family, i suffer, but so do they- have u heard of any truly good ppl wishing such a thing? i think not. sometimes in order to gain something, suck as it may, we have to bear the pain- no pain no gain. so we know it sucks, but just bcoz we choose to chicken out doesn't mean we do not believe that pain is actually needed- just quite simply that we are not man enough to bear pain. look- even when my mum died- i had to let go- it was HER life and it took some time for that to sink in. ok- take her own attitude to it- the doc told her that she didn't have more than 6mths to live. imagine being in that situation. take a moment to think what it would be like to know that you WILL die 6mths from now and that the only thing that can save u is a miracle. most folks would never let go and would die a pretty miserable death. happily enough, my mother died peacefully- she did manage to let go. that is called confronting pain and not suffering and making everyone else feel miserable. and i personally have gone the drinking route when things were not going right. i used to be sloshed at 9 in the morning. i can tell u that the only way to truly have peace of mind come what may is to accept that shitty things do happen- bad exeriences teach u lessons. but it is up to u to learn the lessons. i hope all this makes sense to others.

 

[casualbb]

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson
asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks
on Sept. 11).

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I
believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've
been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government
and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can
we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He
leave us alone?"

So 9/11 happened because of separation of church and state? Good call.

Except for back in the middle ages, when every single European government was religious, things were pretty shitty. There goes that argument.

 

[torn]

Truth is a revelation....no one comes to God lest the spirit draws them. You do not have the ability to decide if you will or will not believe in Jesus. It is not about believing, though you must believe to inherit...more about a divine revelation and a experience. I can assure you that Jesus is real. I speak of an exprerience which will never be at the mercy of an argument. I caution you that you are not immortal and he was, is and will always will be. You need revelation. Life is but yet a vapor....here today..gone tomorrow. Nothing that you know of in this world is eternal...behold, all things pass away.

Scary person....

 

[Razorguns]

Here's a real stupid question.

WHO wrote the bible? Some guy on a mountain? Who's the author? What's to stop someone NOW to write some book that people a thousand years from now worship like gods.

I mean, what if a thousand years, people start worshipping Scientology like we do Christianity?