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The Vick Case

jnevin said:
Grown ass man, too.
haha that's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.. I was like "does a grown man really call someone a faggott for a differing opinion?"


Think about the Vick case, imagine that his gambling and conspiracy was for some off track betting, in the same amounts that were wagered on the dogs, do you think he'd even draw the attention of the feds? I personally do not think so, maybe I am wrong, but I thought the RICO statue was used against people who were involved in large scale fraud, theft, tax evasion, gambling, money laundring, etc. There were a couple purses over 10,000, but the majority were peanuts.
 
Still trying to defend the undefensible? Vick coped a plea because he had NO DEFENSE for his actions! Have a clue dog hater!

Lestat said:
haha that's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.. I was like "does a grown man really call someone a faggott for a differing opinion?"


Think about the Vick case, imagine that his gambling and conspiracy was for some off track betting, in the same amounts that were wagered on the dogs, do you think he'd even draw the attention of the feds? I personally do not think so, maybe I am wrong, but I thought the RICO statue was used against people who were involved in large scale fraud, theft, tax evasion, gambling, money laundring, etc. There were a couple purses over 10,000, but the majority were peanuts.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Still trying to defend the undefensible? Vick coped a plea because he had NO DEFENSE for his actions! Have a clue dog hater!
lol!!

"dog hater"

I love dogs bro, and i thought that the case wasn't about dogs??

either way, I agree 100% with you, there is NO DEFENSE for his actions, they were wrong, he should be punished.

What I disagree with is the severity of his punishment.
 
Lestat said:
haha that's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.. I was like "does a grown man really call someone a faggott for a differing opinion?"


Think about the Vick case, imagine that his gambling and conspiracy was for some off track betting, in the same amounts that were wagered on the dogs, do you think he'd even draw the attention of the feds? I personally do not think so, maybe I am wrong, but I thought the RICO statue was used against people who were involved in large scale fraud, theft, tax evasion, gambling, money laundring, etc. There were a couple purses over 10,000, but the majority were peanuts.


The chain of events that led to the ring is just so violent and barberic that it made the news about it so big. What he was doing was at almost a mob scale. What made them probe further was probably the amount of carcasses on the property and the amount of dogs in the kennels. If they saw a dog or two that looked like they had gotten into it a few times, they never would have thought to look into it like this.

Fact is, what he's going to prison for unfortunately isn't for the torture of those dogs. It's for everything else that came from it. Karma for the pups.
 
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jnevin said:
The chain of events that led to the ring is just so violent and barberic that it made the news about it so big. What he was doing was at almost a mob scale. What made them probe further was probably the amount of carcasses on the property and the amount of dogs in the kennels. If they saw a dog or two that looked like they had gotten into it a few times, they never would have thought to look into it like this.

Fact is, what he's going to prison for unfortunately isn't for the torture of those dogs. It's for everything else that came from it. Karma for the pups.

karma for the pups.. what a good call :)
 
jnevin said:
The chain of events that led to the ring is just so violent and barberic that it made the news about it so big. What he was doing was at almost a mob scale. What made them probe further was probably the amount of carcasses on the property and the amount of dogs in the kennels. If they saw a dog or two that looked like they had gotten into it a few times, they never would have thought to look into it like this.

Fact is, what he's going to prison for unfortunately isn't for the torture of those dogs. It's for everything else that came from it. Karma for the pups.
there is no way to prove this, but had dogs not been involved, and instead the exactly same players were involved in off track gambling operations for the same dollar amounts, I believe there would be no case, definitely no press.
 
Lestat said:
there is no way to prove this, but had dogs not been involved, and instead the exactly same players were involved in off track gambling operations for the same dollar amounts, I believe there would be no case, definitely no press.


Yeah. There's nothing to prove this other than the fact that he was facing 20 years for all of the charges and he took a deal for 18 months.
 
Lestat said:
there is no way to prove this, but had dogs not been involved, and instead the exactly same players were involved in off track gambling operations for the same dollar amounts, I believe there would be no case, definitely no press.

like rick tocchet and janet gretzky???
 
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