The Ultimate Diet to Get Ripped while Maintaing Muscle.

[visions]

can this work if you are some fat out of shape dude like 45 years old with no lifting or dieting experience??

 

[rez]

ye..i did the modified diet, ide recommend it. Its for those who are looking to drop bf%, but not competing.

 

[rez]

yes! very low carbs..high vitamin c

 

[Toshendin]

You CAN do the modified diet if you're roughly 18% bf, but will doing the original shed MORE bodyfat than the modified one?

 

[MrRTTB]

For me this diet don't work that well. Well I loose fat, but my stomach goes nuts with all the veggies. I rather cut with low carbs. Anyone have the same problem that I have?

 

[Phenotype X]

Great post crumcake. good info

 

[Toshendin]

Alright..After getting side-tracked, screwed up and all that stuff I've decided to try this again. I weight about 165lbs, roughly 18% BF, and 5'10ft. I'm pretty active. I run the 100m, 800m, and do 100m Relay along with Shot-put every weekday. I'm also on the Old School 3 Day a week program. I've decided to start off by doing this on the first day:

6 scoups of whey

3 oz of boneless chicken

1-2 cups of broccili

4 oz tuna

4 oz steak

9 large egg whites

1/2 cup of cottage cheeze

1/2 cup of oatmeal

1 tbs of mayo

1 tbs of flaxseed oil
-------------------------------------------
protein 250g
carbs under 50g
fat around 50-60g
total cals are 1900 or so

(Took that from someone who posted it a few pages ago)

 

[Toshendin]

Alright..After getting side-tracked, screwed up and all that stuff I've decided to try this again. I weigh about 165lbs, 14 years old, roughly 18% BF, and 5'10ft. I'm pretty active. I run the 100m, 800m, and do 100m Relay along with Shot-put every weekday. I'm also on the Old School 3 Day a week program. I've decided to start off by doing this on the first day:

6 scoups of whey

3 oz of boneless chicken

1-2 cups of broccili

4 oz tuna

4 oz steak

9 large egg whites

1/2 cup of cottage cheeze

1/2 cup of oatmeal

1 tbs of mayo

1 tbs of flaxseed oil
-------------------------------------------
protein 250g
carbs under 50g
fat around 50-60g
total cals are 1900 or so

(Took that from someone who posted it a few pages ago)

I can do that, but I can't do that every day, so that's where I get lost. I don't know what else to eat. The main problem is the 9 egg-whites since my mom's gonna go apeshit if I waste 9 eggs. The rest is alright for a day-today diet, but mixing it up would be nice. I'm looking for someone with roughly the same totals as that above. If anyone has the same stats as me, and they're doing this diet, would you mind posting some of the things I could eat to keep the totals the same. Others are encouraged to add their comments and tips, as well.

 

[rez]

Just a quick point about this diet that worries me is a couple of people i've talked to about this diet have been saying that going so low on carbs is dangerous for the body.

Basically they are saying "If you get 50g of carbs a couple of times a week and not enough fat to maintain the proper ketone levels, yer gonna die. "

Can anybody please shed some light on this? I've been on this diet 6 weeks and never felt better. Losing fat and have lots of enegry and even gaining muscle mass. I get my carbs from veggies and some fruits.

Help

I think its perfectly ok to keep carbs to fruit and veg..as long as theyre low in gi...nothing wrong w it. Also, there is plentyof fat on this diet..so keep it up!!

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Hmm...if this were true there would be no such thing as eskimo's.

LOL, nice observation bro. I gotta use that sometime.

 

[Toshendin]

BUMP!

Sadly, we can't look, since we're not all platinum members

 

[muffbs1]

supplemtents on orig. diet?

are all the supplements in the list provided a must, if not which ones are a must(i know a multi. and vit. c are important)?

 

[rez]

Re: My results from the diet

**pic taken at 24/04/2002**

**pic taken today, after 3 weeks of following this diet, clen and eca**

Comments are welcome!

what did u look like before?

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Maxout, there is a definite increase in cuts in the second picture.

I have been using this diet at 3500 calories a day and I am still losing fat.

I have to say it does work and the genius is in the simplicity of it.

 

[ahthong]

WTF??? I didn't start this infamous 'Crum' tread!!!! But I sure don't ming taking credit for it anyhoo

 

[Rémy!]

I noticed that too.

Must be a slight glitch.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

a 20 minuite sprint!!!!goddamn....shhhhhhhh hear that? oh..thats because its not the sound of my heart beting since its in cardiac arrest

LoL. Good shit bro, Keep that shit up.

P.s. Ahthong, the word on the streets is that you're trying to hijack my thread... .. bastard....

 

[FullCircle]

Hey Crum,

I want to try the diet, but I think I may want some carbs. I don't want to deal with it. Can I follow the Atkins diet? Will Monitpora help burn some fat? I was thinking that 10 ml of B-Ionic may help buffer lactic acid, allowing better workouts. Can I just drink it, or should I inject it using the rectal method?

I heard "trout sniffing" could increase my testosterone levels, what does that consist of?

I could die for a popsicle right now, air is good, as is pussy...:ahem: I mean female company.

-FC

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Hey Crum,

I want to try the diet, but I think I may want some carbs. I don't want to deal with it. Can I follow the Atkins diet? Will Monitpora help burn some fat? I was thinking that 10 ml of B-Ionic may help buffer lactic acid, allowing better workouts. Can I just drink it, or should I inject it using the rectal method?

I heard "trout sniffing" could increase my testosterone levels, what does that consist of?

I could die for a popsicle right now, air is good, as is pussy...:ahem: I mean female company.

-FC

Yo P, you gotta check out these new frags I picked up tonight. Fucking awesome. I need a fucking DIGGY CAM, to post some pics up on r.c. They'll blowwwww yoooo mothafuckin minddddddddddd.

The best way to lose fat is to grab a fresh wild acropora colony, toss it in acidic water and watch it bleach right before your very eyes. Then drop it on fresh water with the pH at 5.5 and drink the residue.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

If you train, a low carb diet is retarded.

LOL.

Hello, my name is Lumbuss, and I am from the land of La La.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

What, are you mad that i came on your thread and said that your diet is the best? What is so special about your diet, it worked for you? Tell me how leptin levels are kept up on your diet. If they aren't tell me why leptin levels aren't important when dieting. Tell me how the body cant lose muscle when undereating, and tell me how it can build muscle without carbs? I would like to learn all this stuff from you. Im not saying your diet sucks, but I personally would never give it a try because there are much better diets out there.

You also said not to use fat burners while on the diet because they blunt your appetite too much. That is a good one, those damn fat burners are the worst thing you can take for fat loss!

LOL. I didn't even read any of this...except for "What, are you mad that i came on your thread and said that your diet is the best?"

Dude, I love you. Let me be the ruler of your Vagina.

Please.

Please?

Please.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Also this isn't "my thread".

Please don't think I look at it like that.

There have been a LOT of Elite members that have posted some awesome valuable information on this thread.

Read it over sugar-tits.

Hey just so you know, I live in Nickalodeon myself. Rent's cheaper than La-La.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Why do you call me sugar tits, do you want to suck my boobies and stick them in your mouth and fart on them?

You are a Pimp.

I can not wait to take advantage of you and de-flower you.

Can I video tape it?

Nevermind...I am video taping it.

Wear pink.

 

[FullCircle]

don't forget to supplement with flax/fish oils. That will increase your % of good Omega fats.

-FC

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Here’s where I start:

50 years old

As I have learned to consider food as merely fuel for the body I have no concerns about sticking to a diet. (A wise man once told me that discipline is merely the congruence of beliefs). If it’s not on the diet I don’t even consider it food anymore.


Arc

If only there were more 50 year-olds out there like you.
You are a fucking Man.

Great job on lowering the cholesterol and losing the fat.

Try to get at least 2 work outs in a week, 3 would be better.
Everything else looks cool, just stick to the foundation foods such as salmon, tuna, chicken, veggies, flax (or udo's), birdseeds, vagina, oatmeal, etc. - and you'll get down to your 8% , no fucking problem.

Keep it up Arc. You're doing great.

 

[Sixbits]

Thanks for the diet Crum. Let me ask you a question, are fruits OK on this diet? If so, what kind? I've been on this diet for 3 weeks and have been eating Strawberrys and Oranges, is this OK?

 

[asiansinc]

I hope you are not one of those High Carb advocates, if So then you need to put away that silly Bagel and eat a Platypus.

That is a great quote.

And this is a great post.

Bump for my own benefit.

 

[BATMAN75]

what about fruit..?? Maybe like low glycemic fruits(apples,pears,etc)?
And you don't recommend eating any other type of carb during the day at all right..??? Like maybe that low GI fruit before the workout..??

 

[BATMAN75]

Hey crumcake....How would you compare this diet to a CKD diet..?? What are the advatages and disadvatages..??

 

[yosshimura]

ttt

ttt


I need to go through this tommorrow............ My crum diet hasn't worked (my screw up though)

 

[gUiLe]

I figured I would bump a real fucking diet!!
g

 

[yosshimura]

Ok, I have been on a half ass crum diet and haven't lost crap. Anyhow, can you guys help me out, this is my plan....

meal 1 - 3 scoops whey

meal 2 - eggs/bacon/cheese- I am confused on how many eggs. When I used to have egg whites I would eat 8-10, so I could get the protein needed; but with whole eggs I am concerned of too much fat in one meal. I could cut the cheese/bacon. SO HOW MANY EGGS ?

Meal 3 - tuna / mayo / olive oil.

meal 4 (post workout) - 25g dextrose / 3 scoops whey

meal 5 tuna / mayo/olive oil and 1 cup+ of veggies (I split veggies sometimes between meals 3 and 5...

meal 6 - steak or burger or chicken breast (I'll cook at home, so whatever I am making that day.).

meal 7 - 50g casenite or 1 cup cottage cheese and olive oil.


This sounds LIKE it has to work no?? I am bumping up the protein intake on this phase. I have been doing it similarly for the last 3-4 weeks but no weight loss with less protein intake... I have been snacking on peanuts / walnuts (so maybe too much carsb?).

thanks

 

[yosshimura]

Ok, I have been on a half ass crum diet and haven't lost crap. Anyhow, can you guys help me out, this is my plan....

meal 1 - 3 scoops whey

meal 2 - eggs/bacon/cheese- I am confused on how many eggs. When I used to have egg whites I would eat 8-10, so I could get the protein needed; but with whole eggs I am concerned of too much fat in one meal. I could cut the cheese/bacon. SO HOW MANY EGGS ?

Meal 3 - tuna / mayo / olive oil.

meal 4 (post workout) - 25g dextrose / 3 scoops whey

meal 5 tuna / mayo/olive oil and 1 cup+ of veggies (I split veggies sometimes between meals 3 and 5...

meal 6 - steak or burger or chicken breast (I'll cook at home, so whatever I am making that day.).

meal 7 - 50g casenite or 1 cup cottage cheese and olive oil.


This sounds LIKE it has to work no?? I am bumping up the protein intake on this phase. I have been doing it similarly for the last 3-4 weeks but no weight loss with less protein intake... I have been snacking on peanuts / walnuts (so maybe too much carsb?).

thanks

tttttt ????

 

[yosshimura]

tttttt ????

43K views and 600+ posts and not a post in the last week other than from me? Is this not the latest "fad" diet any longer? Has everyone moved on b/c they lost all the weight they needed of Crum's diet and no longer read / post in here? OR is my simple question being ignored ?

 

[AMBB4L]

yosshimura: There are a number of variables that we need to better understand. First, how many do you weigh and many grams of protein per pound are you eating? Also, how many nuts are you snacking on per day? The calories from those add up VERY fast. Try measuring the nuts you eat instead of grabbing handfuls at a time.

 

[velvett]

yosshimura -

why don't you you lose the nuts and cottage cheese and see what happens.

And what kind of veggies are you eating?
Stick to green and leafy.

 

[yosshimura]

Thanks for both responses. I was/am eating a shit load of walnuts thinking it was OK. But am going to cut them out if that could be the problem. I am not measuring how much I eat (handful )..... Hey I needed some fat right ?

As for the veggies, I eat carrots. About a cup or a little more per day... I could switch to brocoli, but the farts......

Pork grind snacks? I have eaten some of these, but not on a daily basis. I thought with their no carb/ and yes fat they were good.

Cottage cheese bad? I eat a container every day or two (each container is three meals)

Amount of protein per day? hmm... ABout 220-280.

I weight 187, so .75 = 139 grams of protein
and at 1:1 = 187 grams of protein.
But Crum's diet is 1.5-2.0g per lb of bodyweight, so=327- 360.

I am low on the protein, I can't imagine how much more to increase it unless I eat about 75g per meal... I thought the body only absorbs no more than 50g at a time...

My second meal of the day could be screwed up... I eat anywwhere from 6-10 egg /egg whites (sometimes less sometimes more eggs vs egg whites) with cheese, and sometimes with bacon.... Good/bad?

Thanks, guys. All I have accomplished with my meal is a decrease in muscle I think..... Oh, i am 5 8".....wanting to loose some body fat from the waist/stomach, but I am not fat, then again, my stomach is not ripped

Thinking about it, I bet a big problem is the amount of walnuts and (was eating peanuts) I have been eating, thinking it was OK, they are full of calories and too much fat and some carbs...

help....

 

[velvett]

As for the veggies, I eat carrots. About a cup or a little more per day... I could switch to brocoli, but the farts......

yup...lose the carrots too.



I know I love them too.


You can learn to love spinach

 

[gUiLe]

I have been doing this diet going into 3rd week. It is working
wonders for me! I lost a total of about 5lbs and getting leaner
looking to boot. Scrap the nuts, cottage cheese and carrots (like Velvet said And I think you should be good. You DO have to
add much more protien also. When you eat your tuna, make
2 cans instead of 1. That will add an additional 38g protien.
Add another whole food meal and maybe another whey shake
and that should do the trick. I am going with about 1 1/2 grams
per lb. I am up to 271, so that's a lot of protien. You'll get used
to the farts from the broccoli, I did Good luck!!
g

 

[gymrat]

Someone should put this thread to bed...

 

[AMBB4L]

Someone should put this thread to bed...

I second that.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Lemme tell you guys a lil bit about sheep that was told to me by a wise man one day.....

These people eat and eat, they enjoy that part of life to the max.
They induldge and enjoy life, they take that food pleasure every fucking second and they wonder why people talk shit about them.
Motherfucker I eat horsehairs and whey. You best fucking believe when I step out into the real world i'm gonna check motherfuckers who need to be checked. If you're fat, you aren't gonna get any respect from me. They expect to enjoy both parts of life, to feed their need AND to fucking get respect....Fuck all that. Get away from me with that ridiculous shit.

I take pleasure until I meet another motherfuckin human being and I know the first thing going through that motherfuckers head is "can i take this fool?"

The answer is no, because he is a fucking Beast. Not a fat beast but rather a fucking 40 mile a day running, not even walking, but running BEAST.

i got Sabretooth tigers living with me cause they said fuck it.
I don't even need to hunt for them, they hunt for me.
I EAT FUCKING SHEEP. - nevermind , fuck all that. I feed my troops sheep, I don't enjoy eating sheep, it's meat is too soft, I like Tiger meat.

Tiger meat, cause I know that motherfuckin Tiger Earned his meat. Tiger meat with a side of bbq sauce - naw fuck that , tiger meat with a side of more Tiger meat. I eat that shit for a few reasons, first - He didn't roam around the range pickin at weeds and grass.. nope - that motherfucker checked fools, and ate fools.

That's what i'm about. I eat motherfuckers that step up, not the weak ones who are swimming at the top next to the shore, but Rather I go after the motherfucker who is 50 fathoms deep.

I go after the Hunter. I EAT THE FUCKING HUNTER.

You people ever talk that sheep shit to me EVER again, I don't give a fuck for WHATEVER reason, ,you ever bring up this weak sheep minded shit to me one more time, I'm going to skull fuck you back to the stone ages.

Have you hauling around my timber to build me a castle.

Now, you start working out. Don't give me that pussy shit either.

Motherfuckers talk way too damn much in the gym.

"How you doing?"

Bitch how the fuck do you THINK i'm doin? I'm sitting here covered in my own fluids, eyes look like they've been pulled from my skull.

They ask me if I dream.
FUCK NO.
My mind doesn't have time to make no motherfuckin dreams, it's too busy commanding legions of enzymes to key points of production, blood capillaries to their designated posts... my body IS a fortress under contruction. Ain't no motherfuckin time for tea and crumpets.

So the sweetest honey known to man, that sweet La La of nothingness..that time to believe you are a fairy on the clouds of heaven. I spend in FUCKING HARD HATS. NO parking zones for 500000 feet in each direction...dynamite being used to demolish fat... so much so that i dont have some bullshit dynamite shack on the corner of my construction site, I got a motherfuckin factory mass producing that shit.

Nuclear fusion generator supplyin power 24/7...fucking Anamatium replacing bones, and they ask ME how i'm doing?

That's just not a question you can ask me.

It's not about HOW i'm doin, they want to HOW I do it. How I Wake up everymorning with that everlasting perpetual eternal lust.that crumpet in my eye, that sweet blueberry of a muffin to suck on and enjoy.

You think I don't want that shit? You don't think I wanna lay on the couch and be a huge whale of a man? SERIOUSLY NOW, you don't think i'd enjoy that? Of course I would, because that's what my BODY wants.

but the BODY is weak, it's just flesh. I am NOT MY BODY. I am merely a co-existing life within my body. My mind is housed in this structure and just like people like to house their bodies in nice clothes, my mind like to house itself in a nice body.

That's motherfucking EVOLUTION OF THOUGHT.

Can you even grasp how deep I took it?

My body suffers so my MIND can have a nice shell and in return my MIND rewards my body with sweet women, sweet clothes, and a fucking sweet housing of itself - a nice home - a nice life - DO YO U SEE THAT? Or are you just a weak blinded sheep?


Sheep motherfuckers have NO honey. Nothing except tryin to sit there and sound smart. If they were smart they would form their own opinions instead of debating their interpretation of someone elses words. This is true sheepdom. This actually falls under subsection C, under Smart with no cause. They have a command of the language and use that to satisfy the urge in their skulls to be strong. They have no REAL power, no real strength, no PHYSICAL strength, not even a strong voice. Just the ability to chain words together in a fashion which they think is impressive.

I find these people to be the weakest of all because they are living in SUPREME la la.

They are in the clouds of fantasies.

Let it be known.

-Crum

 

[FullCircle]

Amen homes.

Thats some motivation for lazy bastards like myself.

-FC

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Nice..i may give this a try on my big Tren Cycle

 

[yosshimura]

I Scrap the nuts, cottage cheese and carrots (like Velvet said . You DO have toadd much more protien also. When you eat your tuna, make
2 cans instead of 1. That will add an additional 38g protien.
Add another whole food meal and maybe another whey shake
and that should do the trick. I am going with about 1 1/2 grams
per lb. I am up to 271, so that's a lot of protien. You'll get used
to the farts from the broccoli, I did Good luck!!
g

Damn, I have been eating carrots like crazy, and stoll eating cottage cheese . i had already cut out the nuts.... I will try bumping up the tunas, for example, and more olive oil (2 tablespoons for the tunas....

Hmm, what else? In the am I eat 4-6 whole eggs and some egg whites (I always total 10 eggs one way or the other....) too much fat there? I cut the cheese and bacon out of the eggs. Did I need to do that?

thanks

 

[gUiLe]

I cut the cheese and bacon out of the eggs. Did I need to do that?thanks

No. I don't think so. It all depends on how much fat your
getting on a daily basis. My advice would be to go to Fitday.com
It is an AWESOME tool that can REALLY help you on your
way. You can thank me later
g

 

[muffbs1]

ok, i know this post has been ran into ground but i have another ques. i am about to start this diet again, i have already been through it once with good success but i am going to run it longer this time, so what are some good substitutes for the green beans and broccoli? i did the green beans through the whole diet last time, all eight weeks and i don't like broccoli, so i need some alternatives for this time!

 

[Naxis]

Spinach. Ideally, raw. Carbs are almost all fiber, tons of viatmins and quite filling.

 

[kibslibchargeback]

Ok I read through about 150 posts and no way am I getting through all 650 so can someone help me out with these questions:
1st- according to the original diet , you have to drink whey in the mourning. I'm freakin hungry, I mean really hungry in the mourning. I have to eat something. Is it ok to have like 6 egg white omlet w/ 1 slice of fat free cheese, and 2 servings of whey instead of 3?
2nd-This diet can get pretty expensive, so I was wondering if its ok to replace the salmon with like 2 cans of sardines in oil?
3rd-For veggies, is it any veggie ok? My mom makes this Veggie side dish with zuchini, white onions, green and red peppers, all cooked in olive oil.
4th-I have oxydrene and testrogel lying aroudn just waiting to be used. Is it ok to use them on this diet?
5th-I wake up and eat at 7:30am and workout at 9:30am, do I have to change the order of the meals besides the post workout?
I sound like a fucking newbie, but I couldn't find these answers in like the first 150.

 

[muffbs1]

is there any
thing else besides spinach?

 

[skaman607]

I'm a cross country runner and was planning to try this in the summer when I will have time to eat all of the meals, I was wondering if it needed to be tweaked for hard distance training, since I might need more carbs.

 

[Senior Woonaki]

This might be the best thread ever!!!

crum is a pimp!!

 

[Parabellum]

Great thread, long ass read............. I tried this diet before, I just read the first post and went with it.

I
was doing fine then 3 weeks into it I ran out of food choices so I started adding CKD meals and everything went to hell.


I'm starting again tomorrow, the right way. (All this time wasted).

 

[danielson]

bump for tha blind chod gymtime

 

[Senior Woonaki]

GUILE
i weigh as much as you and would be interested in seeing what you would consume in a given day at your bodyweight...

Congrats on the fat loss

 

[cccp]

hell yeah. I bet this is the diet that swolecat is proposing. ( I don't know for sure though). Looks good, and that is what I'll be doing from now on.

 

[Transporter]

i follow now this diet on 3rd day.
one question i take so many protein shakes instead of steak, cause i am busy man.... and my protein shake has 4 grams of carbs per serving. is that bad?

thanks

 

[Senior Woonaki]

I cant get over how great EAS just whey is... If you search, you can get a 5 lb tub for 25 dollars! That is a great deal... The stuff is very low in carbs too...
In regards to your question about getting too much carbs with your protein, I would take Mr. X's advice
"Fat+Protein:
for every 10g protein you can have 1-3 carbs

carbs+protein:
for every 20g carbs you can have 1-2 g fat "

If your are disciplined enough to really follow the crumb diet, getting 4 grams of carbs in your 30 gram protein shake should not be a major problem....

 

[Transporter]

the hardest about this diet is to get 107.5 grams of fat ( i am 220 lbs)

how do u guys do it ?

 

[OMEGA]

is this thread long? or is it just me

 

[OMEGA]

You can't replace veggies with anything. Of course veggies aren't happening. Do you think veggies are there to satisfy your tastebuds? No my friend, there not their for enjoyment, They are there for Punishment.

Seriously though, eat your veggies, Suck it up and do it. No one likes them, but hell, we eat em anyways. Make a game out of it.

Look at that fucking head of brocolli on your dinner plate, and go to war with it. Pretend that motherfucker raped your mother.

Kill it. Devoure it whole. [/B]

LOL

awsome!..........

 

[Mr.X]

Quit bringing up this thread...it's just an idiotic rip off from the CKD...plus w/o a CHEAT"" day you'll STOP making progress VERY SOON.

Mr.X