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The Least talked about and possibly the best UGL ---Golden Triangle Pharmaceuticals
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jasonstrong
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Juice Authority said:
I couldn't agree more, there are some great UG labs out there that have higher standards and better products 3 x better than the mex companies or IP's benzyl bathtub brew.
Too me MexiPharm is the greatest thing since sliced bread and it is UG, comparable to the upjohn cyp and delatestrly.....etc.
drrman
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jasonstrong said:
no offense here bro, but if you ever compare another undeground lab to upjohn, you'll have to be banned!!! ...j/k
but, i hate to bust your bubble, but NO UG lab will ever compare to the longstanding quality and repeatability of upjohn or any other human grade lab. How long has the longest UG lab been around.....my point exactly, they come and go, so how can you trust the quality of a company that most likely won't be around more than a few months????
Now, another thing, EYE PEE is NOT and i repeat NOT a human grade lab....hell, his shit isn't even mesquito grade, its pure shit
jasonstrong
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Noffense taken bro, I was referring to proper dosing, not purity standards to UP I should know as I have worked as a degreed PharmEngineer in the industry for 4 different co's in the last 13 years....here is a post I wrote in response to someone saying mex gear is better than human or the same or some shit like that...
"I totally disagree with you. Don't take it personally as I will point out the facts. If you ran a Mexican Pharmaceutical company I might have more reason to believe you...but from my personal experience I act upon. I am used to it, whenever I question the quality of IP's gear I get slammed on the other boards so I can respectfully defend myself.
Some people reading this thread may find it educational.
There is a HUGE difference between pharm gear and mex VET gear no matter what or where it's produced the standards are different. I guess I have a different opinion because I work in the Industry and have for 13 years after graduating from College.
I have worked for Intervet and Organon and currently work for a major pharmaceutical company in the line of pharmaceutical engineering sterile injectable products.
Laurabolin for sale in Mexico is made, filled and packaged in Boxmeer Holland and labeled for sale in Mexico..at least it was when I was at the production plant in Holland in 1993.
Vet companies do not have to follow human standards..and therefore don't...there is a difference between sterile and clean and a solution that is safe for parental injection under USP pharmaceutical and FDA Standards.
Check with the Mexican Ministry of Health-these products are allowed by law to be 10% underfilled and dosed.
What goes into a sterile product.
Well let's start with a 100 million dollar manufacturing facility for one with WFI-distillers chillers and HEPA units running 24 hours a day. The electric bill for my facility last month was $86,000.
Add in Class 100 Clean Rooms which produce high effeciency clean air at 100 particles per square meter.
Production Technicians at $40-50,000 a year wearing $300 worth of sterile gowns hoods masks and gloves.(and they change several times a shift)
High effeciency validated pharmaceutical filling equipment steam sterilized and sterile air dried.
Ingredients in say an injectable antibiotic.....
Pharm grade glass vial meaning the glass has to be within certain specs and measurements to qualify with very little defects.
Vials are cleaned and rinsed with triple distilled water 90 degrees C reverse osmosis filtered and deionized.
Vials are then "baked" in a sterile filtered HEPA oven at 400 degrees for over 5 hours to depyrogenate.
Stoppers are purchased either clean and ready for autoclave sterilzation or prepped as above and autoclaved 30 minutes under 15 lbs of pressure and 125 degrees C.
All tanks and vessels and piping and associated tubing and filling machines are 316 L grade polished stainless steel.
The powders purchased are USP grade and must adhere to United Pharmocopeia Standards for purity and potency.
Ok let's hit up Mexican Vet Producing companies.
Other Products are high in alcohol other than the high dosed stuff...Loeffler sust, tokkyo Sust, Tokkyo Cyp, Enanth, Prop, QV Enanth, and many more.
MOST Mex Vet companies get their raw materials from China and may not be as pure there fore requiring the additional amount of BA to get it into solution. Which is really flawed anyway BA is a good solvent, but has terrible sides in high doses... there are better solvents out there.
How many different variations of vials and boxes and labels have you seen with products...100's 1,000's?...there goes the high quality standards.
Now all said...Mexican Vet Products are a good choice if that's all you can get.....they are cheap and halfway dosed right and the key=available.
It is unfortunate that our government has pushed us to the black market, as the standards are not very high and you are not protected by a regulatory agency. Heck even in this industry we have people die from medications and product recalls due to defects.
How does QV Enanthate differ from Primoteston 250...well it doesn't...as in the raw material other than the facts posted above. You can have a potent "vet" enanthate just like a potent human grade enanthate.
We all know these products are not being made for cattle and sheep.
All I am saying is to get yourself sterile filters and sterile vials off the web and filter that stuff for peace of mind...I do and always will.
Will they kill you...probably not...most abscesses are from poor injection techniques...the oil itself stretches the tissue and inflames it...take a piece of raw meat and pop in 3 cc's of veg oil and see how the tissues expand.
Going back to Holland I had the "pleasure of going to Amsterdam" and freaked out when I walked under the bridge in this one area of town...there were thousands of use needles lying on the ground and the streets were lined with the walking dead. Now if these people can cook a powder with lord knows whats in it and shoot it up IV and live...I think people won't die from mex vet products..the human body can take a tremendous amount of abuse.
All I am saying is for peace of mind sterile filter....
Peace"
And Yes I sterile filter MP all the way down to a .2 in a sterile vial before use.
I don't trust ANY Black Market gear....
"I totally disagree with you. Don't take it personally as I will point out the facts. If you ran a Mexican Pharmaceutical company I might have more reason to believe you...but from my personal experience I act upon. I am used to it, whenever I question the quality of IP's gear I get slammed on the other boards so I can respectfully defend myself.
Some people reading this thread may find it educational.
There is a HUGE difference between pharm gear and mex VET gear no matter what or where it's produced the standards are different. I guess I have a different opinion because I work in the Industry and have for 13 years after graduating from College.
I have worked for Intervet and Organon and currently work for a major pharmaceutical company in the line of pharmaceutical engineering sterile injectable products.
Laurabolin for sale in Mexico is made, filled and packaged in Boxmeer Holland and labeled for sale in Mexico..at least it was when I was at the production plant in Holland in 1993.
Vet companies do not have to follow human standards..and therefore don't...there is a difference between sterile and clean and a solution that is safe for parental injection under USP pharmaceutical and FDA Standards.
Check with the Mexican Ministry of Health-these products are allowed by law to be 10% underfilled and dosed.
What goes into a sterile product.
Well let's start with a 100 million dollar manufacturing facility for one with WFI-distillers chillers and HEPA units running 24 hours a day. The electric bill for my facility last month was $86,000.
Add in Class 100 Clean Rooms which produce high effeciency clean air at 100 particles per square meter.
Production Technicians at $40-50,000 a year wearing $300 worth of sterile gowns hoods masks and gloves.(and they change several times a shift)
High effeciency validated pharmaceutical filling equipment steam sterilized and sterile air dried.
Ingredients in say an injectable antibiotic.....
Pharm grade glass vial meaning the glass has to be within certain specs and measurements to qualify with very little defects.
Vials are cleaned and rinsed with triple distilled water 90 degrees C reverse osmosis filtered and deionized.
Vials are then "baked" in a sterile filtered HEPA oven at 400 degrees for over 5 hours to depyrogenate.
Stoppers are purchased either clean and ready for autoclave sterilzation or prepped as above and autoclaved 30 minutes under 15 lbs of pressure and 125 degrees C.
All tanks and vessels and piping and associated tubing and filling machines are 316 L grade polished stainless steel.
The powders purchased are USP grade and must adhere to United Pharmocopeia Standards for purity and potency.
Ok let's hit up Mexican Vet Producing companies.
Other Products are high in alcohol other than the high dosed stuff...Loeffler sust, tokkyo Sust, Tokkyo Cyp, Enanth, Prop, QV Enanth, and many more.
MOST Mex Vet companies get their raw materials from China and may not be as pure there fore requiring the additional amount of BA to get it into solution. Which is really flawed anyway BA is a good solvent, but has terrible sides in high doses... there are better solvents out there.
How many different variations of vials and boxes and labels have you seen with products...100's 1,000's?...there goes the high quality standards.
Now all said...Mexican Vet Products are a good choice if that's all you can get.....they are cheap and halfway dosed right and the key=available.
It is unfortunate that our government has pushed us to the black market, as the standards are not very high and you are not protected by a regulatory agency. Heck even in this industry we have people die from medications and product recalls due to defects.
How does QV Enanthate differ from Primoteston 250...well it doesn't...as in the raw material other than the facts posted above. You can have a potent "vet" enanthate just like a potent human grade enanthate.
We all know these products are not being made for cattle and sheep.
All I am saying is to get yourself sterile filters and sterile vials off the web and filter that stuff for peace of mind...I do and always will.
Will they kill you...probably not...most abscesses are from poor injection techniques...the oil itself stretches the tissue and inflames it...take a piece of raw meat and pop in 3 cc's of veg oil and see how the tissues expand.
Going back to Holland I had the "pleasure of going to Amsterdam" and freaked out when I walked under the bridge in this one area of town...there were thousands of use needles lying on the ground and the streets were lined with the walking dead. Now if these people can cook a powder with lord knows whats in it and shoot it up IV and live...I think people won't die from mex vet products..the human body can take a tremendous amount of abuse.
All I am saying is for peace of mind sterile filter....
Peace"
And Yes I sterile filter MP all the way down to a .2 in a sterile vial before use.
I don't trust ANY Black Market gear....
jasonstrong
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DRRman said:
thanks bro I am getting to unload a few of my more informative posts on pro secrets-3 X a day training and some other things post work out nutrition etc.
I learn here and contribute here-give and return it goes both ways.
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