The Importance Of Steroids

[VooDooChild]

Is Ronnie Coleman bigger than his trainer? I think so, last I checked. Milos Sarcev went to Pat Arnold and Charles Poliquin for training/drug-info and neither are bigger than he is.

But you do have a point..."people in the gym" go to the biggest guy...people who know what they're doing go to the smartest guy.

And the average guy like myself, cant afford to pay Pat or Charles either.. Im assuming they have or charge a fee for their insite.

You can pretty much tell which trainers know what the hell they are doing, and the ones that just put people through a basic routine, that he could have read for himself in M&F, and saved himself $75-100! In my gym we have 2 that actually have knowledge, and actually know what they are doing. One is a pro and one is not..

 

[Nelson Montana]

If there was a magical way that insured the best gains, don't you think everyone would know it by now?

Everything works. The key is to understand your body and be creative and intuitive enough to change things up in order to make each session as effecive as possible.

Here's a weird example. I just read in this months MuscleMag a routine I wrote about a year ago. It was essentially something I just made up. After reading it I thought, 'hmm, that's actually a pretty good idea! I think I'll try that next time.' That's all any routine is. If it gets you into training and hits the muscles in a slightly different way (not necessarily a new angle but a new stimulus) then it's a productive workout. No one -- NO ONE -- not Mike menzter, or Charles Poliquin, or anybody has a secret rep routine or set system that is better than any other.

The best workout is the one you've never done.

That's why hundreds of people have written to me saying they got great results from some of the old school workouts I have in my books. It's because they've never used them before. Therefore, they were effective.

 

[Mac173]

If there was a magical way that insured the best gains, don't you think everyone would know it by now?

Everything works. The key is to understand your body and be creative and intuitive enough to change things up in order to make each session as effecive as possible.

Here's a weird example. I just read in this months MuscleMag a routine I wrote about a year ago. It was essentially something I just made up. After reading it I thought, 'hmm, that's actually a pretty good idea! I think I'll try that next time.' That's all any routine is. If it gets you into training and hits the muscles in a slightly different way (not necessarily a new angle but a new stimulus) then it's a productive workout. No one -- NO ONE -- not Mike menzter, or Charles Poliquin, or anybody has a secret rep routine or set system that is better than any other.

The best workout is the one you've never done.

That's why hundreds of people have written to me saying they got great results from some of the old school workouts I have in my books. It's because they've never used them before. Therefore, they were effective.

I'll return the favor and say that I agree w/ this post.
Muscle stimulation always works.
Varying order of sets,#, reps all this helps to create a more effective workout.

 

[boyer]

Ok this is my last post on this thread, I don't really care about anyone involved but the arguments have gotten ridiculous. But before I leave I'm gonna throw my 99 cents out there.

First off, I don't think beyond Steriods is written for a "Pro" anyway, it's probably written for a novice to beginner. Now I don't doubt that there are lots of guys on this board who are knowledgeable as hell, but they haven't put all their beliefs down in a book for someone to follow, AR did. I don't know if it's a good book or not, but honestly as a noob coming to this site with all the arguing and contradicting back and forth by very well meaning, and many times well informed bro's, I would be confused as shit sometimes wading through the arguments to understand what I need to do on cycle or for PCT. Now if there is a book someone can use to look through, learn some of the science, get some interesting views on workouts, cycling and diet, and it all goes together this could be the best thing for a noob. I don't know if the book is good, it could be shit, but if you haven't read it then you don't have the right to talk shit about it.

I agree that AR can be a little crass sometimes and a bit argumentative, and would benefit from using a little more proffesional tone, but honestly he gets attacked so hard on here you can't hear any debate above the bashing by people who really appear to have an agenda and constantly pick fights.

Now maybe AR doesn't know shit and he isn't a good coach. But what really matters is if his ADVICE and COACHING is good or not.

When looking for a coach, I don't measure biceps, I don't look at their 40 yard dash time. I look at their coaching. I have trained at Team Quest, and 4 other gyms. No question Team Quest has the best athletes in the world (one is reigning heavyweight UFC champ and the other just got a challenge match agains Fedor, the reigning pride heavyweight champ (haven't seen results yet)). But when it comes to coaching, I didn't get the best coaching at team quest, I got it at a local gym. The coaches at the local gym are not as good of fighters, no where close, but they are better teachers, and I gained more at the local gym in half the time I was at Quest.

Now a good coach DOES need personal experience. They need to have been involved in the sport. They need an in depth knowledge. But they don't need to be the best at it.

If you don't like AR don't read his shit. If you must put him down then actually attack his teachings you disagree with, don't rant about how he asked "noob questions" 5 years back on some obscure board somewhere. Focus on what he's doing now, and specifically what he teaches that you disagree with.

And if you want anyone to give 2 shits about what you have against him, then articulate it in an intelligent manner instead of unintelligible "pwnage, you suck noobzor!!".

Since I wrote pwngage, I'll just let you know I bought the book and didn't learn anything new. I don't like wasting my money and its as simple as that. Was that intelligent enough for you?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Since I wrote pwngage, I'll just let you know I bought the book and didn't learn anything new. I don't like wasting my money and its as simple as that. Was that intelligent enough for you?

It would be more intellegent to just take advantage of the Money Back offer that comes with the book.

 

[needtogetaas]

It would be more intellegent to just take advantage of the Money Back offer that comes with the book.

oooooooooooooooo owned big time.lmao

 

[Wulfgar]

that is pretty funny... ^^^

btw AR, i liked your book
somethings I agree with, some I dont. but it makes you think, and I like that.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I'm coming in here a bit late, but I do want to know something. I'm really geting tired of arguing on these boards and I've got enough stress in my life that I don't need to add to it, but I have a question. Anthony, seriousley, what makes you more of an expert than I when it comes to steroids. For instance, I rarely hear anything that I haven't already heard or known. I've talked to doctors, in fact a good friend of mine that I went to college with is now an internist in Des Moines, IA. and he has used quite a bit himself. We talk about cycles and theory all the time. I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but I know more than most and if I may say, I know more than a lot of doctors about steroids for the simple fact that they do not spend the time researching them like someone who is using them and truly interested in the science behind it. I'm not attacking you, Anthony, but would like your own explanation as to why I should buy your book, and I'd be willing to, if you could explain your credentials a bit more. Your posts do not really teach me anything. I'm not saying they are not informative for most, they just don't really open my eyes up to anything new. Granted, alot of the times your arguing with others because they have already attacked you. So what is really going on with you, man?

What makes me more of an expert?

Research.

It took me about a year, working daily, to write my book...

So if you want to take a year off from work to look up countless studies and read medical textbooks, then you will not need to buy my book. Otherwise, for $40, you can save yourself the year off from work, and the daily reading...

 

[Anthony Roberts]

If there was a magical way that insured the best gains, don't you think everyone would know it by now?

Everything works. The key is to understand your body and be creative and intuitive enough to change things up in order to make each session as effecive as possible.

Here's a weird example. I just read in this months MuscleMag a routine I wrote about a year ago. It was essentially something I just made up. After reading it I thought, 'hmm, that's actually a pretty good idea! I think I'll try that next time.' That's all any routine is. If it gets you into training and hits the muscles in a slightly different way (not necessarily a new angle but a new stimulus) then it's a productive workout. No one -- NO ONE -- not Mike menzter, or Charles Poliquin, or anybody has a secret rep routine or set system that is better than any other.

The best workout is the one you've never done.

That's why hundreds of people have written to me saying they got great results from some of the old school workouts I have in my books. It's because they've never used them before. Therefore, they were effective.

Everything works:

http://www.anthony-roberts.com/blog/?p=44

 

[Tweakle]

So we've established the Pros have nothing to offer any of us regular people because they're genetically on a different plane.

So I take it that means no more lectures about how IFBB pro Mr So-And-So does 5mg dbol a day and is 300lbs ripped, and those of us who use more AAS than he claims to use are idiots, lazy and drug abusers.

Because if he isn't the same species as the rest of us, with 4 x the AR's of a regular guy, with no SHBG or myostatin in his system obviously doesn't need to use much in the way of gear, or train hard. Or eat much to grow on.