the.gladiator1987's 12 week 5x5 log

[the.gladiator1987]

I've got a slight butt tuck at rock bottom squats like I'm sure most of us do. My lower back muscles used to feel very tight after a high volume squat session, but I guess they got used to it after a while. I've 1rep maxed on squats and deads and have done 20 rep squats all without a belt and have not had the slightest pain in my back, not even stiffness. I remember reading somewhere that a little butt tuck is fine, you just need to build up slowly to let your lower back get accustomed to it.

I'm not going to say whether you should go as low as possible or not, but if you try, definitely allow some time to get used to it.

Oh well as long as the butt tuck thing is ok ill go lower. It just seemed like it made my lower back start rounding, but i guess its really not its just they way the body is? I didnt know if i could do my max weight that low.

Update, did maxes on weighted dips and deadlifts

dips
175x4

deadlifts
135x5
185x3
225x1
275x1
315x1
365x1
405x1

This was supposed to be my max, but felt like i could do more

455x1

Stoked about that

475x1

got this up! wtf i didntknow i could do this shit, hella happy.

 

[oso0960]

Oh well as long as the butt tuck thing is ok ill go lower. It just seemed like it made my lower back start rounding, but i guess its really not its just they way the body is? I didnt know if i could do my max weight that low.

Update, did maxes on weighted dips and deadlifts

dips
175x4

deadlifts
135x5
185x3
225x1
275x1
315x1
365x1
405x1

This was supposed to be my max, but felt like i could do more

455x1

Stoked about that

475x1

got this up! wtf i didntknow i could do this shit, hella happy.

Good job on the deads!! Yeah don't try your max weight with the deepest squats lol.

 

[cy23]

I told you man, you fly to 500. Its not not until mid fives it starts to slow down for me.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I told you man, you fly to 500. Its not not until mid fives it starts to slow down for me.

I know im fuckin surprised man, ill post a vid next week. im hoping i get to 515 and then ill start my cycle. Hopefully ill get to 565, 585 after cycle.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Good job on the deads!! Yeah don't try your max weight with the deepest squats lol.

thanks bro, felt like a beast. You should have seen this guy do 455, he looked like a fcuking work trying to get it up, his back was hunched, and then he leaned back, put the bar on his quads then straightened out with a hunched back still. It was horriblelol

about the squats so ur saying it ok to go below parallel but not to the point where your butt kinda rolls down and its practicaly impossible to keep a flat back because of it? I still go below parallel

 

[oso0960]

thanks bro, felt like a beast. You should have seen this guy do 455, he looked like a fcuking work trying to get it up, his back was hunched, and then he leaned back, put the bar on his quads then straightened out with a hunched back still. It was horriblelol

about the squats so ur saying it ok to go below parallel but not to the point where your butt kinda rolls down and its practicaly impossible to keep a flat back because of it? I still go below parallel

That sounds incredibly painful lol.

It's not impossible to keep the back flat at rock bottom, I'm sure there's some flexibility issues involved if you can't. What I'm saying is that it is possible to safely squat ATG where your butt rolls in a bit, but you have to strengthen your back before attempting the weights you're doing right now because your back will ache like hell if you do. I'd say that as long as your going past parallel, you're fine. It's just that if you ever wanted to drop down ATG, allow your body to get used to it.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

That sounds incredibly painful lol.

It's not impossible to keep the back flat at rock bottom, I'm sure there's some flexibility issues involved if you can't. What I'm saying is that it is possible to safely squat ATG where your butt rolls in a bit, but you have to strengthen your back before attempting the weights you're doing right now because your back will ache like hell if you do. I'd say that as long as your going past parallel, you're fine. It's just that if you ever wanted to drop down ATG, allow your body to get used to it.

Ok gotcha. I see what youre sayin now. I think when i build up to it and my back off sets will all be ATG as far as I can. But for my one truly heavy set and max sets I will go past parallel but not to the point of my other sets.

Ill take a video next week, I think its just a flexibility issue but I wanna make sure.

 

[cy23]

thanks bro, felt like a beast. You should have seen this guy do 455, he looked like a fcuking work trying to get it up, his back was hunched, and then he leaned back, put the bar on his quads then straightened out with a hunched back still. It was horriblelol

about the squats so ur saying it ok to go below parallel but not to the point where your butt kinda rolls down and its practicaly impossible to keep a flat back because of it? I still go below parallel

It's called hitching. That is what will fuck your back up. I have done it twice, once on heavy triple and once on a max single that was about ten pounds too heavy. No deadlifts for two weeks after that. You can tell the next day you went too heavy and not in a good way. I have seen some pro strongmen do it from time to time. Check out Jouko's training video where he tries to pull 350 kilos for a triple... His nose starts to bleed on the second rep and he starts hitching on the last rep... Looks so painfull but I have much respect for the man. It just means it is too damn heavy. Sounds like the guy you were watching just didnt know what he was doing. 455 is pretty light to be struggling like that. You could get permanent damage if you dont respect dead lifts.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

It's called hitching. That is what will fuck your back up. I have done it twice, once on heavy triple and once on a max single that was about ten pounds too heavy. No deadlifts for two weeks after that. You can tell the next day you went too heavy and not in a good way. I have seen some pro strongmen do it from time to time. Check out Jouko's training video where he tries to pull 350 kilos for a triple... His nose starts to bleed on the second rep and he starts hitching on the last rep... Looks so painfull but I have much respect for the man. It just means it is too damn heavy. Sounds like the guy you were watching just didnt know what he was doing. 455 is pretty light to be struggling like that. You could get permanent damage if you dont respect dead lifts.

damn hitching, yea fuck that! i mean yea he got it up, but its funny because I think i can get more up doing it my way (the right way) rather than doing it like him, and he is the opposite. I feel like my back would snap lol. Is he just able to get 455 up that way because thats how he does all his deadlifts?

 

[cy23]

Hitching would get you three red lights in a powerlifting meet. And fuck your back up long term. I can pull more if I hitch but I wouldnt, lol.. Its cheating anyway. I can bounce more weight off my chest then doing a strict pause at the bottom too but I like my ribs intact...