Testosterone enanthate, cypionate or sustanon 250?

[AvatarJ]

Hi guys!

1.)Without thinking of test prop or test suspention - Which of these two esters would be the better one to use for lean muscle gain with the least water gains - test enanthate or test cypionate?

2.)Would it just be better to use sustanon instead of the enanthate or cypionate??

Please note:
* The testosterone will be run alongside proviron/nolva - throughout the cycle.
* Anavar will be used towards the end of the cycle
* Using 300mg of test a week.
* 8 week cycle

Thanks!

 

[Ox-Sandra-Loan]

IMO you would notice very litte or no difference between them.

 

[RADAR]

the sus due to its different mixtures of test esters would cause the most bloat, Enanthate,or cypionate the only difference in their structure is one molecule.

 

[AvatarJ]

the sus due to its different mixtures of test esters would cause the most bloat, Enanthate,or cypionate the only difference in their structure is one molecule.

Ok yes I know that, but do you think by using proviron with either test enanthate or test cypionate will give simalar results as proviron with test prop?
The proviron will keep water retention and estrogen at a minimum which in turn will give muscles a hard/solid look?

 

[stevesmi]

sustanon has 4 esthers. 2 day, 4 day, 8 day and 21 days.

cyp esther is 14 days

sustanon can be painful with the BA if you are sensitive.

sust should be injected once a week, cyp twice a week.

not gonna recommend which one to use, that is your call, but hope this info helps

 

[zwhit]

At 300 mg/ week you shouldn't see any bloat with any kind of test unless you are ridiculously prone to it. So the gains should be pretty much the same with either test.

Also using nolva throughout the cycle is really pointless. If you're worried about gyno have some aromasin on hand. It will take care of the bloat and any gyno but most likely you wouldn't need it at only 300mg.

 

[j_p]

Hi guys!

1.)Without thinking of test prop or test suspention - Which of these two esters would be the better one to use for lean muscle gain with the least water gains - test enanthate or test cypionate? test enanthate and use an AI for estrogen/water issues. ester wont matter much on that.

2.)Would it just be better to use sustanon instead of the enanthate or cypionate?? I would rec ether teste or cyp over sust, but would just get whats cheaper (is why I like omnadren, I get it pritty cheap usually but if where the same price id get teste)

Please note:
* The testosterone will be run alongside proviron/nolva - throughout the cycle. NOLVA DURING CYCLE IS NOT NEEDED, IF OYU NEED ESTROGEN CONTROL GET AN AI! Nolvadex don't lower estrogen
* Anavar will be used towards the end of the cycle fine
* Using 300mg of test a week. is ok but id rec 500mg ew
* 8 week cycle should be 12 weeks MIN

Thanks!

Im in RED
Do you know what PCT is and do you have one ready?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ I never run a cycle more than 10 weeks bro.

my current tren/mast/test cycle is exactly 2 months long.

 

[AvatarJ]

Im in RED
Do you know what PCT is and do you have one ready?

Yes thanks man my PCT will be HCG and Clomid - I was thinking 3weeks after my last shot of test I'll start with the PCT.

Whats an AI?? Would Proviron be an AI?
I was thinking Proviron instead of nolva.

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback!

 

[Nighthawkk]

Sust is inconvenient for you if you're running only 300mg/week. You're better off with going for 250mg Enanth or Cyp every 5-6 days, that will equal out to around what you are aiming for. The enanth and cyp are long esters and much better for your purposes than a sust or testo blend. If you're running Var make sure its for at least 5 weeks, and honestly I'd kickstart with it if you have that choice

 

[chembeaker]

300mg of testosterone is approximately the amount synthesized per week in an adult male, although exogenous test doesn't necessarily completely shut down natural test production it does to some extent and its significant and different from individual to individual, so its possible that 300 mg/wk of enanthate will do nothing but maintain your natural level, keep in mind too that 300mg of enan is not even close to that as free testosterone base. the guy who suggested 500 per wk made a good point with that but if you really want to do something significant go to 750. I like the mesterolone but I think you would be better off with drostanolone. Also like the other guy said, the oral should be taken at the beginning of your steroid course, otherwise you have and initial couple weeks where nothign is in the system then at the end you have all that testosterone and this oxandrolone, a relatively weak steroid at affordable dosages, on top of it, the effect would be minimal and overshadowed.
sustanon is just an expensive marketing ploy, its useless if you inject more than one ampoule during your previous doses lifetime.

 

[STEELMAN50]

Can test Enath be used with test Cyp? alernating evey 6 days? Or is tjut as good to use one or the other?

 

[RADAR]

Can test Enath be used with test Cyp? alernating evey 6 days? Or is tjut as good to use one or the other?

Yes you can do that but why? i would use either the Enanthate or Cyp and when one runs out just switch to the other.

 

[kangruibio]

T.E is better

 

[inquiring mind]

I an new here so bear with me please. I had taken sustanon a long time ago and it took about 5 weeks to kick in, boy it did, but this was eons ago. I did it twice at 500mg for 12 weeks. I did it once with winstrol once, got supper cut, but too many pimples, sucked wouldn't suggest this mix, but that is me. Gained about 15-20 pounds at the time each time I did it, but did HCG back then which was the norm without novaldex that I now know is important and lost most of it after 6 months. I went back to normal and did work out hard, I guess my genetic limit after about 6 months to 1 year. I have read that Cypionate is good all things being equal and have been told that doing it twice a week at 250mg is a lot better, since it evens out the blood. I experienced that bloat depends on what you ea and I gained quality muscle at the time I was 25. All things equal testosterone is testosterone. Now, If someone would give me some advice on Cypionate and keeping the gains the best possible after a good PCT would be appreciated I haven't experimented with this one. I have read cortisol control besides the SARS, there is so much information. I would like to know the best way to keep the gains also. I am a little older now and want to feel it again. Now, naturally I am 40, 5'10, 200 pounds at now 13% bodyfat, stuck at that genetically so I am ready for next step. I thinking of cyp 500mg 12 weeks, to reintroduce myself with novaldex 3 weeks after cycle 40, 40, 20. I didn't aromatize with test when I was younger or had balls shrink. Thanks for help in advance, much appreciated.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Good advice from everyone here.