Test : Tren Ratio ...whats your opinion.

[Tux]

I definitely prefer to run my tren higher than test, as I mainly use tren for cutting cycles and I don't want any estrogen issues. ATM I'm running a mix of 75tren ace/75mast prop/25test prop, a homebrew that totals 175mg/ml. I just use 1cc MWF and saturday night, so only 100mg/week of test prop. I'm getting leaner and stronger every workout now and have no problems whatsoever with water weight or sex drive, etc. Hell my sex drive is actually through the roof, I think I'm gonna be in my best shape of the last several years this summer

 

[zwhit]

So, a lot of low or no test folks here, hmmm.

What about Primo in place of test at a low does. Maybe 200mg primo, 400mg tren, 400mg mast, anyone done that?

What do you think would be better 400mg tren/mast per wk for 10 weeks or 600mg tren/mast for 6 weeks?

My first experience was test/tren/mast blend, short ester at 100mg ea EOD and loved it. Since I know I can handle the sides I'm going to run tren/mast long ester at 400/wk - was going to do 400mg test per week but now you guys have me reconsidering.

I see no reason to not run at least a replacement dose of test, but that's just me. I think 200mg primo would be useless. test has functions in the body and primo doesn't.

 

[Captain FT]

I see no reason to not run at least a replacement dose of test, but that's just me. I think 200mg primo would be useless. test has functions in the body and primo doesn't.

What would be a replacement dose of test? I'll probably run 400mg across the board of test/tren/mast.

 

[notjake11]

I cant run tren during most of the year because of its reputation as a cardio killer but plan on running it this winter during the three month period when there are no races. Threads like this are great for guys like me to learn about the compiund and the different experiences people have had with it

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[Tux]

Yeah tren is my favorite gear hands-down, but it DOES kill my run time. I just stick to incline walking and some elliptical for cardio on tren, and even then sometimes the pumps get nigh unbearable after 10-15 minutes! Nothing else like it for incredible recomps though.

 

[stevesmi]

tren when on your strength becomes incredible and godley (is that even a word?). nothing is better for strength. dudes at the gym always ask me if i need a spot when i'm on cause they can't believe how strong this 5 6 200 pound dude is. I tell them "nah i'm good bro" and they are like "huh?" then I rip off 6 or 7 reps. there are PLers who are 270 pounders with guts hanging over their belts who I can keep up with when i'm on tren. thats the good news.

however when you come off guess what happens? the opposite, your strength tanks hard. and yes you need to come off if you want to have healthy lipids and if you want to give your tendons/ligaments a break.. even if you cruise on test your strength will still tank after the tren is out of your system. keep this in mind those of you who want to use tren for strength gains.

so the question becomes do you want quick but harder to keep gains or do you want slow acting easier to keep gains. if its option 1 then go with tren every time. if its option 2 go with primo, eq, etc. i've said many times on here 'tren is overrated' and people go nuts at that statement. what I mean is I want to see what your lifts are 8 weeks after your last injection of tren, not during week 8 on tren. to me its not what you do while on a substance its what you end up with after its long gone that is important. its how you improve year over year. no different than a gambler who makes 5K in one night in vegas, but doesn't tell you he was stuck 20K from the week before. I don't care how much you made that day, i care about how much you made overall.

having said that if you are going to visit friends who want to hit the gym lets say Sept 1 and you want to impress them. get on tren in early July and run it for 10 weeks. and when you meet those friends in the gym they will be shocked at how strong you are.

 

[zwhit]

What would be a replacement dose of test? I'll probably run 400mg across the board of test/tren/mast.

trt dose, 200mg or so. I just don't see any reason not to run the trt dose of test, for myself, with any cycle. but you know what you call handle better than anyone else.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

trt dose, 200mg or so. I just don't see any reason not to run the trt dose of test, for myself, with any cycle. but you know what you call handle better than anyone else.

For cycling purposes and calling it a TRT dose yes...200mg is spot on. Since most good UGL's are dosed high even less would do fine. 125mg-150mg.

 

[digit0x]

Sorry to chime in without having run tren, but in my research the people that seem to recommend test at a 2:1 ratio to tren always use the excuse for it being about keeping libido up.. there seems to be no other reason to run test so high other than libido.. there is also never any mention of caber or prami.. o can't imagine what kind of shutdown they experience after cycle with there prolactin so high

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I'm inclined to say the ratio is irrelevant. Tren shuts down the bodies natural test production and test replaces it. Depending on goals, you can adjust the test accordingly, but I don't believe there is any golden ratio.

 

[bonacris]

I'm inclined to say the ratio is irrelevant. Tren shuts down the bodies natural test production and test replaces it. Depending on goals, you can adjust the test accordingly, but I don't believe there is any golden ratio.

I should have been clearer.. I mean it seems to be a hard fast rule that test is double tren.. some site will absolutely destroy you if you mention you want to run tren higher than test but yet I see on this site guys running low test high tren and no test and tren.. the ratio seems to be an old school thing and the guys here are more up to date

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