Test : Tren Ratio ...whats your opinion.

[bigbassturd]

I liked the tren/var stack when it came to strength. tremendous strength gains

i would like to try tren/EQ .. think stacking those 2 would be awesome.. might have to throw in some tren on the backend of my EQ cycle, not sure yet

so far it's working solid for me. I have heard bad stories about the BP issue with tren plus the added RBC issue with EQ turning into a serious BP issue when ran together, but N2Guard help keep my BP in order so I haven't had an issue with it yet.

Also, some report the anger issues of tren don't mix well with the anxiety of EQ (at high doses) but that also stems from BP and other preventable sides

 

[stevesmi]

^^ yeah bro I just started my EQ so not familiar with it at all yet. I swore i would never run it cause of the long ester but looking foward to see after a few weeks what this stuff does. seems like it would be an awesome compliment with tren at a low dose. if i do stack tren with it gonna do only 200mg a week of tren as an icing on the cake.

so gonna end up with 500-600 EQ and 200mg of tren... and i might throw in 250mg of sust with it.. not sure yet.. i want to give the EQ time to build up by itself in my system to see what it does for me (not even sure if this new source I am using is good or not) gonna run bloods after 3 weeks to see

i'm stacking 2 caps of kata for the first 4 weeks but i already know what to expect there

let me know how it goes with you

 

[bigbassturd]

^^ yeah bro I just started my EQ so not familiar with it at all yet. I swore i would never run it cause of the long ester but looking foward to see after a few weeks what this stuff does. seems like it would be an awesome compliment with tren at a low dose. if i do stack tren with it gonna do only 200mg a week of tren as an icing on the cake.

so gonna end up with 500-600 EQ and 200mg of tren... and i might throw in 250mg of sust with it.. not sure yet.. i want to give the EQ time to build up by itself in my system to see what it does for me (not even sure if this new source I am using is good or not) gonna run bloods after 3 weeks to see

let me know how it goes with you

well if it is legit EQ, you'll love it bro.

I am about 6 weeks into EQ at 600mg and Sust at 500mg, and on day 6 of Tren at 350 and Mast at 600. Getting some really solid gains and have lost a bit of fat. Hoping that when the tren/mast really kicks in that the hardening starts shining and i'll finish the cycle a lot leaner and more dense

 

[stevesmi]

^^^I'm doing twice a day cardio and lifting in between. 2 mile bicycle in morning.. 1 hour weights in the afternoon and then a 2 mile walk in the evening.

i cut out all breads except whole wheat buns for my turkey burgers. and once the mackerel start running i can focus on oily fish protein, its gonna be a great cycle if this EQ is legit

 

[bigbassturd]

The started running here early this week so it won't be long for you guys. Nothing like fresh mack.

Your appetite is going to skyrocket with a sust/EQ/tren run, so stock up!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I ran tren@400mg with test@ 250mg a while back compared with an equal ratio before. not a whole lot of difference to report.

but I think the guys running tren higher than test are running higher doses of tren than you or I typically run. I'm seeing most guys who swear by higher tren running 600-800mg tren with test at half that dosage. more tren will probably yield more results regardless of the test dose.

^^^ Exactly.

Tren is going to do its thing no matter what. Too much test will lead to an assload of estrogen at some point. Which will exacerbate the tren sides. Our bro ConanX ran 800mg tren ace wk religiously. He was a monster. I havnt seen him in months though. (hope he's ok)

So Columbo.....(Cough cough...Columbus) .... Why not try just a token test dose like 300-350wk and like 800mg tren wk? Still just over a gram of gear but I would wager that it would be quite a bit different than 1000mg test and 500mg tren.


Also Steve, Bassturd, especially with EQ....give blood guys. Give double red blood cells if your iron isn't too high. This will keep your levels nice and healthy. RBC, Hemocrit, keep the iron build up down ect. Very very good idea. You can do whole blood every 8 weeks and Double RBC 3 times a year. I suggest double RBC if you can. If not do whole blood the week before cycle and again 8 weeks into cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yup. really you don't need much test at all and shouldn't stack much test. the 'wet sides' as I call it will catch up to you (high bp, insomnia, bloat, etc)

 

[C0LUMB0]

Seems we are talking about EQ ....I'm also gonna hi-jack my own thread here

I ran EQ @ 750mg for 15 weeks and was less than impressed, incresaed hunger ? nope..gains ? meh ...

will i use it again ? no - its just wasting valuable tren space in the syringe.

 

[joeblow12345]

From my experience with tren the higher test dose is what caused the sides. The night sweats, high bp, headaches, insomnia, prolactin and estrogen sides, were all present when test was higher then tren for me. I'm running more tren then I ever have (600 mg) and have no sides at all. I'm only using 0.25 mg of adex every 7 days to control estrogen. I haven't had to use caber once and don't plan on it. My libido is strong, appetite is strong, and I'm making constant gains. This is definitely the way to go for me, and I won't bother ever running test higher then tren again.

 

[Captain FT]

So, a lot of low or no test folks here, hmmm.

What about Primo in place of test at a low does. Maybe 200mg primo, 400mg tren, 400mg mast, anyone done that?

What do you think would be better 400mg tren/mast per wk for 10 weeks or 600mg tren/mast for 6 weeks?

My first experience was test/tren/mast blend, short ester at 100mg ea EOD and loved it. Since I know I can handle the sides I'm going to run tren/mast long ester at 400/wk - was going to do 400mg test per week but now you guys have me reconsidering.