Test/Deca Cycle not working??!?

[stevesmi]

^^ not necessarily. however deca will increase your appetite and cause you to be hungry all the time.. you will be eating for 3 people. stacked with test and dbol and its the ultimate bulker, and thats what it does best. so if you are not looking to bulk then deca is a poor choice, and if you are looking to bulk then might as well take advantage of it and eat like a horse. if you eat properly on a deca cycle it can literally change your body composition... i went from 7% to 17% body fat over the course of 6 months on 2 separate deca cycles.. i also gained quite a bit of muscle mass and strength and have kept most of those gains.. however the long recoveries of deca make it unactractive to me cause I like to run short cycles, cycle off, and cycle on.

 

[jballz]

Ok. Thanks man. I thought I saw some threads where people used deca on a cut. I had great results with test and Beastdrol but it was hell on my joints. What would be good to add with test to lean out besides diet and cardio obviously?

 

[RADAR]

People are just so uneducated. If you don't understand something, come here and ask first, before you inject everything but the kitchen sink into your arse. It's ridiculous.

Kitchen sink won't go thru an 18G ...Sorry!

 

[anmolgoel]

dunno who told you to run clomid during cycle to prevent nut shrinkage but i hope it wasn't anyone on here (doubt it was)


you are supposed to take hcgenerate and/or hcg during cycle to prevent shrinkage. are you eating enough carbs? are you seeing an increase in appetite? if the answer is no and no then you won't get the benefits from deca which is a carb dependant AAS. this is why you shouldn't be overweight when running deca if cutting is your goal.

if you think your gear is fake then go run a blood test

thanks for your reply stevesmi but I dont feel much of an increase in my appetite.. But that may be coz I started deca after 2 weeks of starting test, so I guess it may need some time to kick in... I am trying to clean bulk btw, with the least amt of fat as possible.. my bf% is approx 14-15% .. which is majorly around the lower abdomen..

In reply to your second post, I agree with most what you said, but the statement he made for the first time user may be true.. I gained like 27 pounds on the T only cycle, and kept around 20 from it.. which was pretty sweet I believe..

the gear is pretty legit, that I am sure of..

your solution is flushing all your AI's down the toilet. and picking up a bottle of forma instead from mr supps. it will block just enough estrogen, but also not obliterate it where you won't gain. and you can run it during and post cycle.

I have stopped clomid and finasteride, and upped the proviron to 50 mg ED .. I am not using adex and have kept it just in case i see gyno symptoms.. then maybe i'll take it at 0.25 mg/day for sometime.. is that fine?

I dont think i'll be able to find HCGenerate around here, and I dont want to use HCG for 2 reasons: - Trying to minimize the pinning & - Mixed reviews about HCG.. So looking to use Tribulus.. do you think that will help?

Look forward to your advice!

 

[anmolgoel]

^^^^^^^this is true .!

clomid during cycle to prevent testicular shrinkage ...fuck NO !
hcg will help here.

what does you pct look like ?

you need to eat more to grow and you definitely need to do more research bro.

thanks cali72 & C0LUMB0, but i searched all over and i found mixed opinions on that too.. some said you shouldn't mix deca & proscar, others said that it does not matter as it only stood true in the case of deca only cycles.. i dont know much but i've stopped it now..

My PCT would be of clomid (100mg/day for 2 weeks; then 50 mg/day for 2 weeks), proviron (50mg/day) tribulus & ZMA... Does that look good to you?

 

[RADAR]

thanks cali72 & C0LUMB0, but i searched all over and i found mixed opinions on that too.. some said you shouldn't mix deca & proscar, others said that it does not matter as it only stood true in the case of deca only cycles.. i dont know much but i've stopped it now..

My PCT would be of clomid (100mg/day for 2 weeks; then 50 mg/day for 2 weeks), proviron (50mg/day) tribulus & ZMA... Does that look good to you?

That's the old PCT everyone used to use before the internet, try the new PCT of 2011, you will see a big difference in your moods,sex drive and keepable gains.

Forma
Unleashed/Post cycle

 

[montanaboy]

Yeah, I was gonna say the Finasteride is prob a big mistake dude.

 

[anmolgoel]

That's the old PCT everyone used to use before the internet, try the new PCT of 2011, you will see a big difference in your moods,sex drive and keepable gains.

Forma
Unleashed/Post cycle

Thanks, I looked up all 3 and they look good.. but they are out of stock on the sites it is listed.. any good site that ships internationally?

Also, by forma you meant formestane, right?

 

[RADAR]

Thanks, I looked up all 3 and they look good.. but they are out of stock on the sites it is listed.. any good site that ships internationally?

Also, by forma you meant formestane, right?

If you're international order thru Preditor nutrition its a sub forum of NTBM you will see it when you go to their site!

 

[stevesmi]

got your PM man.. not sure what other advice i can give you that i haven't already above.. you got good followup advice from radar as well. now its up to you to decide what you want to do.