Tennis Elbow won't go away

[climber7]

Hi everyone..!!
I 'm new here and quit desperate.Any information would be extremely helpful.
I 've been climbing for 14 years and had tennis elbow( lateral epicondilitis) for 1,5 year now.The truth is that after NSAID's , cortizone injections , about 20 !! , physiotherapy and ultimatelly surgery it doesnt go away..I m so desperate it won't let me climb to my limit but i never actually stoped, maybe that's why it doesn't heal. After a cortizone injection it feels pain free, i can lift weights but as soon as i put strain on it( rockclimbing places enormous stress to the upper extremity) ,it gradually hurts again. My ultimate sollution ,i thought , was to take anabolic steroids, i.e. 3 week cycle on Winstrol , stop climbing and strengthen the antagonists at the certain point. Will the increase in red blood cells heal the injured part and create new muscle there even though its more of a tendonitis.?Really desperate.......
Thanks again everyone.

 

[split endz]

I'm with you on this one, mine is killing me. I have not yet had surgery, but am looking into it. Please tell me more about the type of surgrey you had, and your displeasure with it.

 

[redguru]

Winny dries out joints, might have been a bad move.

 

[drwost]

me too haven't been able to do pull ups and heavy curls in 6 months

 

[revolutionofthemind]

I find this curious but not surprising that surgery didn't help. This is where so many factors come into play. Among the big ones are diet and hydration. Dehydration reduces the elasticity of tendons and ligaments. Have you used any of the natural stuff by chance? Glucosamine Chondroitin, MSM, Hyaluronic Acid, Bromelain (pineapple enzyme) has potent anti-inflammatory properties, and has been proven in clinical studies to help with muscle, tendon, and arthritic joint issues, hell it even helps with rheumatoid arthritis. What is your nutrient intake like? Ever try high does of vitamin C along with any of these?

And before people blow up and start flaming messages; no I do not expect natural things to be a sudden miracle cure. IMHO this is a good part of a comprehensive healing plan that includes rest, hydration, nutritional analysis, supplements, physical therapy - massage/myofascial release. I think myofascial release may be a big help. Here is an abbreviated definition for wikipedia, FYI: Myofascial release is...techniques for stretching the fascia and releasing bonds between fascia, integument, muscles, and bones;..with the goal of eliminating pain, increasing range of motion and balancing the body. The fascia is manipulated, directly or indirectly, allowing the connective tissue fibers to reorganize themselves in a more flexible, functional fashion.

Often people don't get proper physical therapy at the right time in the course of an injury healing, or they dont rest it properly and this results in inproper healing of the injury. Then later on they go to three sessions of physical therapy and they don't notice immediate improvement so they quit going. Any time you're dealing with an old injury it takes significant time to reshape and reorganize the muscle fibers, and it takes many, many sessions and significant time. You wouldn't go into the gym and expect to do an exercise three times and end up ripped...at least I hope you wouldnt; and its the same way when you have to reorganize the fibers connecting to and part of the connective tissue. Not saying this applies to you, just throwing it out as precautionary note in case.

I hope this helps, let us know if you've done all these things already and what the results were. If you haven't and you do decide to look into it, let us know how it goes. As always, nothing in this answer should be taken to be medical advice, it is completely my opinion and experience. With any serious or chronic injury you should consult a health care provider you trust.

Best of luck to you.

 

[LMOB121212]

Hi everyone..!!
I 'm new here and quit desperate.Any information would be extremely helpful.
I 've been climbing for 14 years and had tennis elbow( lateral epicondilitis) for 1,5 year now.The truth is that after NSAID's , cortizone injections , about 20 !! , physiotherapy and ultimatelly surgery it doesnt go away..I m so desperate it won't let me climb to my limit but i never actually stoped, maybe that's why it doesn't heal. After a cortizone injection it feels pain free, i can lift weights but as soon as i put strain on it( rockclimbing places enormous stress to the upper extremity) ,it gradually hurts again. My ultimate sollution ,i thought , was to take anabolic steroids, i.e. 3 week cycle on Winstrol , stop climbing and strengthen the antagonists at the certain point. Will the increase in red blood cells heal the injured part and create new muscle there even though its more of a tendonitis.?Really desperate.......
Thanks again everyone.

i wear a tight strap just below the elbow when doing biceps triceps chest and shoulders and it help immensely. its a strap made by nike made particularly for tennis elbow. You gotta keep it really tight though. Elbow braces never worked for me and I doubted this strap would be any different-but it was. Unfortunately this is just a bandaid fix and doesnt help cure the root of the problem...

 

[guest username]

I think part of the problem is that you have a tendonitis, and instead of resting it to help with recovery, you keep working out. You cannot treat an injury by consistently stressing it.

 

[silent says]

Climber7,I just had surgery dec 4,medial epicondilitis on my right elbow.I have had it on both arms med and lat for 10 years .Went through every type of therepy you could imagine,none worked.I'm a concrete worker and I hit the gym.Alot of stress on the elbows.Before surgery pain was 100%,now it is 20%.I'm still in therapy,rehabbing it.When doc got into my arm she realized I had a torn tendon and ripped muscle also.I will take the 20% over what I was going through before surgery anyday.Not much you can do except lay off your arms.(but who can do that)Hope you work it out.

 

[Zyglamail]

Climber7,I just had surgery dec 4,medial epicondilitis on my right elbow.I have had it on both arms med and lat for 10 years .Went through every type of therepy you could imagine,none worked.I'm a concrete worker and I hit the gym.Alot of stress on the elbows.Before surgery pain was 100%,now it is 20%.I'm still in therapy,rehabbing it.When doc got into my arm she realized I had a torn tendon and ripped muscle also.I will take the 20% over what I was going through before surgery anyday.Not much you can do except lay off your arms.(but who can do that)Hope you work it out.

Ever try prolotherapy? Not a fast fix and doesnt require you to stop lifting although easing up a bit may be a good idea.

 

[silent says]

Zyg,no I dont think I had that type done.Mine was (stim,ultrasound,electronic,art or mrt)I would like to have one of those ultrasound machines at home,those seem to help alot on specific spots.I think I will look up the prolotherapy.Thanks for the insight.