I started my 1st cycle 2 weeks ago. Thought Iw ould do 250 a week, but I had 16 SUs 250 redijects, so on week 2 I upped it to 500. Ive been taking 25MG dbol for teh past two weeks also and will for 2 more. No acne so far, no gyno, just 9 lbs weight gain with no fat or noticable water. My abs are still ripped but my frame is larger. I am also taking proviron 25MG daily. Id say go with 500. Today I started feeling some effects of the test. It feels good. The dbol (ref-b) finally kicked into hgh gear today and I got pumps and strength from hell! Its kicking in and am loving it. I do have one samll side effect...my balls have been hurting on and off for a few minutes at a time. Maybe three times total now in two weeks. ANy idea why this is?