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Sustanon 250 cycle.
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Mr.X
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curryd23 said:
yeah you'll need PCT, but your cycle looks horrible bro...250mgs of sust/wk? jesus
digimon7068
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Mr.X said:
If all you want to accomplish is leaning out without losing muscle and you're a relative novice, what's wrong with 250mg of sust per week?? Worked great for me! Used that dose last spring while I was leaning-out for summer, body weight only changed by about five pounds (increase) but, body fat went down significantly and bench went up 50 pounds. Not all of us aspire to be freaks. . .no offense to the freaks
With regard to your PCT question, yes, absolutely. If all you can get your hands is clomid use it (along with the herbal stuff that you mentioned). With sust, start two weeks after. . .I use 100 mg per day week one, 50mg per day week two and 25mg per day week three.
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Mr.X
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digimon7068 said:If all you want to accomplish is leaning out without losing muscle and you're a relative novice, what's wrong with 250mg of sust per week?? Worked great for me! Used that dose last spring while I was leaning-out for summer, body weight only changed by about five pounds (increase) but, body fat went down significantly and bench went up 50 pounds. Not all of us aspire to be freaks. . .no offense to the freaks
With regard to your PCT question, yes, absolutely. If all you can get your hands is clomid use it (along with the herbal stuff that you mentioned). With sust, start two weeks after. . .I use 100 mg per day week one, 50mg per day week two and 25mg per day week three.
You're shutting down natural testosterone production, taking all the side-effects and spending money, for 250mgs of product per WEEK. I think that says it all. In general, adult male testicles normally produce 7-10 mg of testosterone daily, that's 49-70mgs per week (as high as 100mgs for some), so you're not taking in much more with the low sust dose.
shoestring
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Looks like your question has beeen answered . But Just wondering what kind of gains you made at that dosage? Were you happy with the results, or do you wish you used more? Some people do great with low doses, deff nothing wrong with trying an amp a week to see what happens. A single ester prolly would have been a better choice for once a week though, but the results are what matter cause everyone is diff. What are your stats & exp?
digimon7068
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Mr.X said:
Sorry. Forgot to mention that I used dbol at 40 mg per day the first 4 weeks and winstrol tabs at 30mg per day during the last 4 weeks of the particular cycle that I was referring to. . .still very mild comparatively and, all I know is what I saw in the mirror. . .and the strength increase. . .I'm 41 and been lifting for quite a while, ain't no 50 lb placebo effect.
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Mr.X
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digimon7068 said:
Apples and oranges bro, adding dbol to the mix changes the situation, especially you're almost at 300mgs of dbol/wk extra. That's about 550mgs of gear /wk.
Also at 41, I think 250mgs/wk would be more along the lines of TRT (HRT) then a real cycle.
scout69
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Deffinately should have thought about it before the cycle, But I've been there I've done cycles before with nothing afterwards and have been fine..While I have friends who have done the same thing and have had problems.bottom line everyone is different so it's almost like russian Roulette....
digimon7068
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Mr.X said:
Yeah. I know. Actually, I didn't "forget" so much as "withhold" that info the first time. It's just that I've seen some pretty satisfying results from some pretty tame doses and it seems like people are leaning towards more and more without doing the necessary research and experimentation. Instead of instant results and instant gatification, they should be taking their time and finding out what works for them. . .sorry for the soapbox.
asianlover
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curryd23 said:
bro, you need pct with EVERY cycle. even though it wasn't a high dose you did run it for 10 weeks so im sure you are shut down. and next time plan a little better.
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digimon7068
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arturkosinski said:
Awww, come on. . .OK, you can get tons of real stuff at the AF Fitness Store.
Wow. thanks guys for the info. I gained 13.5 lbs and had no sides except like three zits on my back. I'm very happy with my results. I was planning on doing a PCT but all the guys at the gym seem to think since my cycle was so weak that I do not need to do one and that I could get away with just doing the Tri. 6oko, and creatine. I just wanted to know what you guys would think.. I just came off the cycle today and my workout buddy has clomid now. So it is not a problem to get. So I didn't have bad planning. Thanks for your time guys.
GoldenDelicious
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lots of people in here talking like they know wtf is going on, and dont, regarding doses.
to the guys saying that his "blood levels" would be all over the place, please explain why this is so and how, if at all, it will magnify sides
250mg test a week will produce good results in most people especially as a first cycle. or second. or third. i know people who have gained a solid, lean 15lbs on 250 sust as their first cycle with minimal sides (a bit of hair loss...but thats hardly going to improve if your dose was 3x bigger, is it)
to the original poster: yes you will need pct. well, not NEED, i suppose, since your body will likely reregulate your HPTA with or without PCT, but if you want to maximise the gains you keep, then yes, pct is a definite goer.
cheerios
to the guys saying that his "blood levels" would be all over the place, please explain why this is so and how, if at all, it will magnify sides
250mg test a week will produce good results in most people especially as a first cycle. or second. or third. i know people who have gained a solid, lean 15lbs on 250 sust as their first cycle with minimal sides (a bit of hair loss...but thats hardly going to improve if your dose was 3x bigger, is it)
to the original poster: yes you will need pct. well, not NEED, i suppose, since your body will likely reregulate your HPTA with or without PCT, but if you want to maximise the gains you keep, then yes, pct is a definite goer.
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kjm94
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i think a good 10 week cycle of sust 250 for a beginner is good. thats what im on. 250 for 3 weeks, 500 for 2 , than 250 for another 3 . im one my second week and stacking it with hgh is good. iv seen my upper body bulk up and my strength rise and little side effects. its a good novice cycle
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Mr.X
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Zuperman said:
The best? I doubt it. It's a moderate cycle. You can go with 500mgs of sust/wk + 400mgs of EQ + 30mgs Dbol ED.
Run arimidex at .5-1mg ED (depending on your estrogen problems in the past)
Keep nolva on hand in case of gyno and have your PCT ready before you start the cycle.
