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wintrol either oral or inectable ( same compound) wil dry out your joints. tren alone is an awful choice. I know this from years of researc without taking any of it.
You're going to get the same answers on here. sorry for us to be jackassses, but that's the rules. It sucks, but you will grow and get stronger from diet and training....
 
Wow...Cardinal Slin and Nelson Montana...yall are so cool...


And I got all my questions answered by needtogetaas, so... :D
 
In 15 years time, when you realise a number of things and look back and reflect, you will realise just how cool we really were.

Why take steroids when you can improve diet and training and gain a solid 20lbs naturally in less than 6 months that you will not lose quickly as your body will be used to the slower, progressive development and added mass.
 
After you will lose everything you gain on your cycle, come back and check out the diet and training section.

...Love it cuz it's true. Best part is how sorry he'll be that he wasted those virgin receptors on a first cycle that will get him back to his starting point of 165lbs in a couple of months. Maybe even worse than that if he succumbs to the depression caused by losing all of your gains and stops eating/training all together!

You can lead a horse to water...
 
Well how can u explain this? One of my friends back in high school..he took Test-e and dbol, and another took straight Tren...NEITHER one took any form of PCT, and yes they eat often, but I mean they were highschoolers, you know how kids eat lots of junk food. They both gained great mass. The one on pure Tren gained about 9 pounds and did not lose anything, and the guy who took test and dbol didnt lose anything either. Thats why I dont understand about the emphasis on eating , they kept that weight all the way from that summer, until we graduated that May
 
Hang in there wert2009, it sounds like we at least got you thinking and thats good.

While its terrible for other reasons to take aas in highschool, taking test/dbol/tren when your body is at its prime like that its almost hard to go wrong. As you get older you have to work harder.

Look at it this way, had your buddy that did test/dbol had a good diet in place, he could have put on and kept upwards of 25 or 30 lbs of solid fucking muscle. Seriously.

Its very logical. Muscle doesn't appear out of thin air. It is made of protein and build by energy from calories. The steroids simply signal your body to "TRY" and build more muscle. If the calories and protein aren't there nothing happens. A good analogy is that food is the nail and steroids are the hammer.


Good luck.
 
I remember when I was around that age, I knew enough to be president, priminister and King. No one could talk to me cause I wouldn't allow them. Why did I need people telling me what to do if I knew everything. Almost 10 years on I realised I don't know anything :)
 
Ok, well the steroid discussion is clear and I'll stop talking about that. But what would be a good diet plan? And please be realistic, I cant eat a steak for every meal lol. And just throwing this out there...My metabolism is EXTREMELY REDICULOULY high...So to keep you guys from typing, you can just send a link or something, Thanks!
 
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