Well how can u explain this? One of my friends back in high school..he took Test-e and dbol, and another took straight Tren...NEITHER one took any form of PCT, and yes they eat often, but I mean they were highschoolers, you know how kids eat lots of junk food. They both gained great mass. The one on pure Tren gained about 9 pounds and did not lose anything, and the guy who took test and dbol didnt lose anything either. Thats why I dont understand about the emphasis on eating , they kept that weight all the way from that summer, until we graduated that May