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my have a firm stance on EF to NOT give advice to users on their / considering thier first cycle if they fit into one of the following categories:

1- if they are less than 25 yrs old

2- if they dnt have enough training and they can grow more naturally

3- if they have no info on aas or pct etc...do you even know what PCT is? what sides are associated with diff types of aas?

4- do you know that diet is half the battle if not more to grow?

5- do ou know that you can take all the aas in the world, and if the other factrs are not in check, the you wont grow?

I'm telling you dude, giving you aas advice with your current condition is against the forum rules...we CAN give you advice to reach your goals naturally as of now, and you WILL...if you follow what we tell you to

its 21 bro the rules are 21
 
lol, i'm starting to see a pattern of "don't talk to me about diet" = "i have a shitty diet". The last guy i tried to coach on this said he wanted to bulk and i pushed the 3,500 cals = 1 pound and up the cals yada yada. His response was "i'll keep this in mind but what dose should my EQ be?". LOL. No, you don't "keep this in mind". This is the essence of bulking.
 
You can take 25 mgs of VAR and add an extra 1000 calories a day and grow more muscle than if you took 100 mgs of Anadrol on a calories deficit.

The one things steroids do is recirculate protein and then idiots don;t eat enough protein. That's like adding octane booster to a car with a hole in the gas tank.
 
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Several of my friends have experimented with both Winstrol and Winstrol Depot (injection form)..One is slightly over weight and he complained about joint pain. But the other guy, who doesnt play sports anymore, had nothing but good things to say about it. So WITH THE PROPER DIET, training, blah, blah, blah, what results would you typically get? What about results with Tren, as its one of the most popular AAS that Ive had my teammates take, dating as far back as the 11th grade in high school.
 
You need an attitude adjustment before anything else. We actually care about your health here so drop the chip on your shoulder if you expect advice.
 
Ok, then just pretend here...Heres a guy that eats perfect, sleeps right, trains awesome, is "old" enough for AAS. But he wants some lean gains. What should he take? I read an article on Ben Johnson (Canadian sprinter in the 80s) took a form of Winstrol.

What about Tren?
 
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