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accuflex

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Things have been getting a little "rough" at my school over the past week and everyone knows theres bound to be a fight soon. The thing is, i might be in it :p In no way am i a fighter, but if someone wants to go, then ill go. I have never been in a fight and would like some tips on defending my self if I ever have to.
 
then just start bashing faces. no questions just bash. not very many people in high school fight well so if you just bring the pain you should win.
 
OH yea, most the guys in the matials dont like to street fight or condone street fighting. so the chances of you getting any serious feed back on this is very small.
 
I don't practice any martial art on a regular basis, so take this advice for what its worth...pure oppinion. I'd say what you should do is buy some boxing gloves and spar with a friend. Get used to being in front of a person who can strike right back at you. You will find that if you haven't done so before, you'll be flinching and ducking like a motherfucker when you get in striking range. Know that this instinctive fear and adrenaline will be present and learn to controll and harness it. Also...spar in the clinch with the person. Get in a classic clinch position (like a boxing or muay thai tie-up) with your sparring partner and practice landing knees, elbows, and shifting the opponents momentum. Try to make it instintive to gain position and leverage advantage once your bodies tie up. You'll find that much of the instinctive stuff you both pull off while sparring is mostly common cliche' moves you see in a typical fight. If you expect it and controll it, you will be the one with an advantage.

Its mostly mental though...the fight will be decided in the first 10 seconds, or before contact is even made.

Good luck, and avoid the situation if at all possible.
 
You can always take lessons or buy videos on this subject--there are quite a few professionals to get sound advice from.
 
accuflex said:
...would like some tips on defending my self if I ever have to.

Yeah, stay out of it. You can get yourself injured, go to jail, and get yourself sued. All because your ego wants to expose itself. If you can see trouble coming this far away then you can avoid it.


Fight to save your life, not to impress some apes in high school.
 
accuflex said:
Things have been getting a little "rough" at my school over the past week and everyone knows theres bound to be a fight soon. The thing is, i might be in it :p In no way am i a fighter, but if someone wants to go, then ill go. I have never been in a fight and would like some tips on defending my self if I ever have to.

:rolleyes:

please don't get involved - its not worth it
 
ridiculous.. are you 12? did he take your ice cream?

stay out of it.. if you know now that things are looking this way then avoid certain people and stay out of the situation that is the only 100% gauranteed self defense tactic that will work
 
Telling him to run is not going to upgradehis skill level. I thin k that is what he wanted. I think he wants defensive skills and not avoidance talks.

What if he cannot avoid?
What if they come for him?
What if they are training?
What if they don't think about running away?
What if they will bully him more and more until the fight happens?
 
if shit goes down,kick the mother fucker right in the balls then as he goes to a knee ram your knee into his face.

simple yet effective
 
teep said:
Telling him to run is not going to upgradehis skill level. I thin k that is what he wanted. I think he wants defensive skills and not avoidance talks.

What if he cannot avoid?
What if they come for him?
What if they are training?
What if they don't think about running away?
What if they will bully him more and more until the fight happens?


Just his statement "...if someone wants to go, then ill go" means he does not want to avoid. I think the general opinion on this thread is that nobody wants to help somebody be a punk.
 
I'd have to agree that avoiding the altercation all together would be the way to go.

The problem is, I'd take any fight coming at me, just for the sheer sake of fighting. Not to impress anyone. Even if I know I'd lose, I'd still fight. It's just..."in my blood"? I don't know how else to say it. I'm always drawn to fighting. I don't want to hurt anyone, in the end. I just want a good opponent to challenge myself against physically.

As I said previously, though, you're better off avoiding it. If for no other reason than to avoid a fucking lawsuit. :rolleyes: People sue for everything these days. Fucking cowards.
 
tom get your challenges on the mat not in the street.

if your a good fighter there is going to be only a small chance that someone on the street starting an altercation with you will challenge you. and like you said you risk being arrested, and sued its really not worth it..

i use to fight a lot before i got into martial arts.. after studying them and acquiring some self defense skills it is now SOOOOOOO easy to just walk away or avoid street fights because i know im not going to prove anything or really get anything out of it and all i am really doing is putting myself in more jeopardy..

this isnt the 50's the days of 2 dudes just duking it out and letting that solve the problem and people going on with there life are OVER now your gonna get sued.. the cops will be involved.. guns, knives or weapons can get involved.. you have to worry about retaliation.. i mean if you beat some dude on the street and he was tough enough and dumb enough to fight you once he might come back next time with some bats and some friends..

be safe and be smart
 
Just stay away from fights man... Knowing you can beat someone's ass will keep you from actually doing it. Wondering if you can or can't will make you want to test yourself.
 
It's hard for me to back down when someone calls me out. I have a very short fuse and I love to put people in their place when they try and talk down to me or ones I care for, then have the audacity to challenge me...
 
To all the people who say "walk away"

THIS DOES NOT SOLVE SH1T! I have seen it before. Guys get picked on over and over and do sh1t all about it. They just keep getting picked on because the bully knows your not going to do anything back. If someone is going to push me around, im going to fight, im not going to walk away and have it happen again. I just want to know how to street fight if i ever got into one. Im not going around looking for a fight.
 
bro if someone puts a hand on you fight back,if someone if picking on you and your mad and want to fight,its time to grow up.

fighting is a last resort when someone threatens your safety
 
TheOak01 said:
bro if someone puts a hand on you fight back,if someone if picking on you and your mad and want to fight,its time to grow up.

fighting is a last resort when someone threatens your safety


Exactly, and unless the guy is seriously after your life, or desperate for your wallet, you can almost always verbally diffuse the fight.

Sometimes all you have to do is feed the agressors ego just a bit, and he won't have a reason to attack anymore. Bullys are only looking to feed that ego to support a mini self-esteem.

You may get into a fight, and after seriously wish that it hadn't happened.

If you hurt him bad you may feel regret.
You may get sued.
You may get hurt. (as mentioned in an earlier thread, splitting your knuckles on a guy CAN exchange blood, and you don't know where he has been)
He may come back for revenge, with friends and weapons. In fact he may have a weapon the first time, you would be suprised at how many people carry knives. Don't fool yourself into thinking this will go away. It's not 1-0 in your favor and you're the champion, this is the real world.
You may be expelled.
etc... (all this has already been mentioned)


Again, what do you gain by winning the fight? Pride? Pride of what? Maybe you impress some losers you won't even know in 2 years? All you are doing is further escalating the situation.


I guess the impression given is that your situation is involving a lot of posturing. Obviously there has been at least verbal agression going back and forth, perhaps challenges or questioning of your virility. But if we have misunderstood and you have a real worry that they may just jump you without warning one day, or you are finding that your general freedom around school is under constant threat, then you might get a much more supportive response from this board.
 
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I think you made a pretty good post, Karde, except for one part in particular.

What is this talk about just feeding their egos? Fuck that! Why feed the fire? I'd rather bring that bully down and stop his little 'reign' all in all. True, there are other things to worry about, but in no way will I 'verbally diffuse' a fight. If someone lays a hand on me, even if they're not that serious, they're fucked. End of story.

And what makes you think I or anyone else wouldn't bring out a weapon or friends if they had to, either? I'd go to any length to terrify someone who was dumb enough to confront me. I'd go at it even if I'd lose. I'm very docile and friendly. You'd never think me intimidating. Put a hand on me, someone I care for, or try and verbally attack someone to the point where it has gone too far, and it's over.

Pride? Yeah, I like pride. Of what? What do you mean pride of what? Pride, man. Pride in yourself. I don't give a fuck about anyone's opinion of me. I care about me being able to take on and defeat any opponent. Anyone who tries to bring harm to me. I care about my ability to 'live on my feet before dying on my knees'. By no means would it be an ego trip. I wouldn't start puffing out my chest, looking to pick fights. I'd go on with life as it were after that. Only for those brief moments during a fight would I change who I was entirely. After - back to doing shit like clockwork.
 
accuflex said:
Things have been getting a little "rough" at my school over the past week and everyone knows theres bound to be a fight soon. The thing is, i might be in it :p In no way am i a fighter, but if someone wants to go, then ill go. I have never been in a fight and would like some tips on defending my self if I ever have to.

I gotta back up the advocates of not fighting on this. Challenge your opponent to a wrestling match under the supervision of the wrestling coach at some open meets. Thats usually a good way to stifle the shit talking. I've been in one fight (outside wrestling and boxing) and the outcome was I beat TWO guys asses but was arrested...taken away in handcuffs and spent the night in jail -- not fun. Luckily I was of sound mind and body and was able to handle myself. The other two guys were not so lucky - they were wiggin out on some shit (which is why we fought to begin with - you can't rationalize with people under the influence of intoxicating substances) and when they were arrested too the police found the paraphanalia on them and some of the shit they were on. To make a long story short, for the amount of damage I did to them, I was EXTREMELY lucky not to have a criminal record. I was 17 and they were 19 and 21 at the time. ---- In short - Join the wrestling team, a boxing club (the more inner-city the better), or a martial arts club........................In all practicality, for as inexperienced as you sound, it dosn't matter what guys on this board say. When that time comes, if it does, you'll be shitting yourself because you've never even been in a fight situation before. If seen it happen to too many loud mouth punks. Its real easy to look hard. Fighting hard is a completely different story......
 
If you're still thinking about fighting, think about this:

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what is to stop someone from cheapshotting you like that? People who are eager to fight usually don't excersise common etiquette.
 
People who have to resort to acts like that are just afraid they or their friends cannot win on their own. They're cowards, plain and simple. I'd just laugh at them. It's pathetic. Have some faith in your abilities or those of your friends, or go home.
 
people who are eager to fight usually have a equalizer aswell.

I just took a seminar on edge weapon awareness and defense,and the stats we were given were 90% of people stabbed in a fight dont know they are stabbed until after,usually on the way home once the adrenaline goes down and your shirt feels wet.

I could type up all my notes I took,but I dunno if anyone is interested
 
I'm seeing some big talking going on here lol.

How many fights have you been in Tom?

How many were with a guy that was actually strong or had real fighting experience?

AS for the highschool kid, go take brazilian jiu-jitsu lessons and muay thai. You will get to spar all you want and learn how to fight effectively. Then you won't have to go around and feel you have to fight the instant someone wants to pick on you.

Most highschool fights or trash talking is all about intimidation and power.

You DO NOT want to get into a fight with a strong guy even if you are strong. Strong guys break noses, jaws, ribs, arms and are generally harder to hurt then little guys. You do not want to get picked up and body slammed head first into the concrete. I've seen it happen.

You do not want to get in fights with little guys either because some are scrappy and fast as fuck and are like energizer batteries haha. Seriously.

I avoid fights at almost all costs. Even if it means I have to back off in full public and look the wimp or coward.

I have about 5 months BJJ training and about 3 of basic boxing fundamentals Taking each 2-3x a week. Also been in a few fights too.

You never know who you're going up against. You guys say you want to test yourself against others lmfao.

I had a buddy that thought the same way. Unfortunately for anyone that took him on he was skilled in muay thai and basic grappling. He also happened to be UBER strong and fast for his size(5'10", 195lbs, 8% BF). I've seen dudes get knocked off their feet and literally sent flying a few feet from one punch.

One time I got in a fight with a guy and he tried to kick me so I grabbed his leg and dropped him and he balled up into the fetal position and I punched him twice in the head not very hard. More like taps. I could have put this guy in the hospital with a few serious shots to his temple. But I didn't.

I got jumped by 5 samoans one time. NOT FUN.

I got hit twice in the ear one time by a guy twice my fuckin size(big dude) and my ear hurt for almost 2 weeks.

I've got 3 friends in prison for life for beating a guy to death that thought he was tough shit.

My dad knew a guy that got sent to prison for hitting a guy once on the temple just right(freak accident) and it killed the guy.

You can get aids. That should be a big enough deterrent right there.

You don't know if the guy you're fighting or about to fight is crazy and whoops your ass and won't stop whooping your ass. I've seen guys half killed because the other guy couldn't restrain himself or call a minor beating good enough.

I got my left ear torn about 1/4" off by getting kicked by a steel toe boot.

Got punched in the throat once and couldn't swallow without pain for about a week.

Broke my hand on another guy's face. Boxer's fracture.

Got my ribs cracked getting into a fight wit ha big guy. WE wresteled while standing and he got me down and landed his big ass knee on my ribs. Ribs took at least a month to heal from that.

Had a knife pulled on me.

Pulled a knife on others.

Been shot at.

Almost shot another person.

I consider myself a fairly tough guy, but, but, I'm not stupid and I don;t think I'm Billy Badass or something. I keep to myself for the most part. There's always someone tougher, more skilled, both or crazier or all 3.

On the flip side, I know I could break a guy's arm multiple ways if I wanted too, break his nose, choke him out or whatever. I don't want to do that. And I don't want it done to me.

In 24 years I've learned one thing about fighting. AVOID IT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
 
Excellent advice actually Got2GetRipped haha!

That's probably the fastest way to scare a guy. Test his sexuality or preconceived notions of what sexuality is. Most straight guys(including me haha) would probably jump back and go nope, don't even want to punch you now lol.

You could also say you have AIDS. That's an almost instant fight killer. If the guy even thinks about it for even just a split second he won't hit ya.

Avoid fights man. Tney really are childish and very dangerous when not in a controlled environment like a competitive match. Even then they can be dangerous.
 
I still love to fight. Yes, I've been in a couple fights. Not as many as I'd like. I don't want to seriously hurt anyone, or be seriously hurt. I just love physical confrontation.

I guess I grew up too much on Blood Sport and little anime and cartoon shows with tons of fighting as a kid. :rolleyes: Go figure!

I'd rather have it in a controlled enviroment against people who will fight fair and actually have a level of skill though. I agree that's the way to go, Ghetto. I just feel like it's "in my blood", as stupid as it sounds. I love to fight. When I die, I want it to be in a fight of some sort. Maybe protecting someone. No lying there, bed-ridden, incapable of shitting anywhere but on the sheets, passing away quietly. Once I'm unable to spar intensely (as I try to do now, not enough people I can really spar with: either not up to it, not fighters, intimidated, or not synching up with schedules), I don't want to be around anymore.

I need to get money to take classes soon and start competing. No exhibition bullshit. No katas. Pure. Fighting.

Rawr! :kaioken:
 
goddamn.. Hit the other guy in the collar bone, then crush the inner knee or upper thigh. If you hit the upper thigh you better finish him when he is on the ground
 
People who have to resort to acts like that are just afraid they or their friends cannot win on their own. They're cowards, plain and simple. I'd just laugh at them. It's pathetic.

it doesn't matter how pathetic it is. The simple fact that it happens is all that matters. People will cheapshot you. They will have thier 'boys' fight for them. They will pull a knife or equilizer. They will do anything to win.

Just look @ the examples that guy posted a few replies back...it happens. now I don't even want to imagine where he hangs out @ to get involved in all that shit, but it can happen.
 
Well if you think you're that into fighting Tom then take some BJJ and Muay Thai.

Let me just say reality and ego check.

If after 6 months of getting your ass kicked you still are into it then maybe it is in your blood. When you join any serious fighting type gym like those mentioned you will get ego checked VERY fast.

I'm Irish/Italian and I've been in more than a few fights, but I'm generally a calm person and I don't like fighting for real even though I have a scary bad temper when it gets lit.

As for liking physical confrontation, HMM? I take it you're not a big guy?

Have you ever fought someone that could literally smash you into pieces? Someone that could pound you to death from sheer strength? I have and I can tell you it's not exciting or fun. You ever been choked unconscious? That's no fun. Ever been punched in the throat? Ribs cracked? Torn ear? Bloody nose? Chipped tooth?

Get into a fight with a guy that can do some real dammage and I think you'll find fighting very distasteful afterwards.

Just wait till you get fucked up by a real tough guy. Then you'll see if you love to fight.
 
Don't try and scare me out of fighting by giving me little horrifying scenarios. I'm well aware of what can and will happen in a fight against someone more powerful than me.

I'm not a big guy because I like physical confrontation? What the hell?

I've gotten a bloody nose and got my cornea scratched up - had to be a pirate for a week or so. :FRlol: Seriously though, I got thrown into the ground and pounced on by two kids from my school who wanted to be 'gangsters'. Real thugs. :rolleyes: So, I got bits of gravel/glass (back bump at school where people smoke and drink) in my eye. It's funny when you hear people say you don't really feel it until after the adrenaline dies - 'cause it hurt like hell when it happened to me.

Anyway, I've been in a handful of fights. Scuffles. Nothing life-threatening, no.

My dad has been abusive since I was young, and twice I pulled a knife on him out of defense after things got too serious. That was when I was 14-15. He's 6'2", Italian/German (as am I) and 240 lbs., roughly. So, he definitely could have smashed me to pieces. He was more than drunk enough. He'd hit my mom in the past, and hit me enough - I doubt he would've had an attack of conscience.
 
I was drunk about 5 years ago and got into somebody else's buisiness that wasn't mine and got hit with a baseball bat and my face kicked in and then when I got up and tried to stumble away they hit me with their car. Amazingly they didn't break anything but I was really fucked up for about a month.
I learned on that day to never ever even think about fighting. I did my fair share of ass kicking when I was young, but I realize now that fighting is never worth it! why? Because it never ends with the fight there is almost always revenge and legal reprucussions.

I contimplated killing those two guys. thank god I learned a lesson for my sake and theirs! I learned too stay away from people that get into situations like that(drug addicts,substance abusers). And to not get totally blitzed and not know what I'm doing.
 
I won't, 'cause I don't need a warning.

Don't patronize me by giving me that sarcastic bullshit, either.

If you don't like to fight or are afraid to get injured, fine. I don't value life enough to really care either way, and I enjoy getting into confrontations.

Just cause I don't have the same insecurities as you doesn't mean you have to give me shit.
 
LOL.

Dude, you're just a semi-intelligent immature little punk kid.

I am not insecure about fighting. But I've been in bad enough ones and seen bad enough one's to take them seriously.

You obviously haven't had a good ass kicking yet, but I sincerely hope in the near future you do, twerp. I wouldn't mind being the guy that did it either assclown.

Go confront away!

Also, you said it yourself, you've been in a couple scuffles(WTF is a scuffle dork). Nothing life threatening. Well you'll change your opinion when it becomes life threatening. I've been in a few life threatening fights. BIG DIFFERENCE Mr. Johnny Dangerous.

Bye bye now. :FRlol: :rolleyes:
 
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BTW?

How long have you been lifting? How much do you weigh?

How much do you bench, squat and deadlift?

What's that? Your lifts are pitiful? Aww, that's too bad son.

Guess you better get into some scuffles. Maybe you'll get stronger.

LOL. :freak:
 
Accuflex, its been almost two weeks since you started this thread. Have things calmed down, or are things still going on? Of course, people who have gotten into fights are going to tell you to try to get out of it. They are just trying to tell you what they know from experience. One thing about fights. They can actually be traumatic. If you do fight and nothing more comes of it,and you lose, you will lay awake at night thinking about all the ways things could've been different. You may feel humiliated, embarrassed, and wish it never happened. If you do win and nothing else comes out of it, people won't care. You might be the talk of the school for about an hour, but not the hour after. No one remembers fights but the fighters. And when people do talk about it, don't think that it will be in a positive light. Some people may think that it was cool and fun to watch, but nothing more. And the most important thing: females aren't impressed. Oh, some may be, but they usually aren't worth impressing in the first place.
Maybe none of that has nothing to do with your situation. I don't know. I do know that if it is happening in school, it could be over a girl, general dislike of each other, bullying, or some other school-type situation. You never told us.
But for someone who has never been in a fight, there's nothing here that we can tell you that will give you some special ability to kick ass. There is no secret magical martial arts move or technique that will make you invincible, or give you ability to guarantee victory if you fight. Maybe thats what you came here for, but there simply isn't any such thing. That's why many fighters train in many types of striking AND takedowns AND groundfighting AND submissions. There's simply no way around it, you either study it and learn it or you don't know it. You don't know if your opponent will be weak or strong in striking, or proficient or a slug on the ground. You MUST also know yourself! Its surprising how many guys (especially in school) will walk around like Billy Badass, ready to tear into anyone, without ever training for it, or even throwing an actual punch. They just assume that they will somehow develop fighting skills the very moment a fight starts. Or they make the assumption that size is the biggest factor in determining who will win a fight, so they pick on smaller people. You have to know your own weaknesses and strengths. Hows your cardio? Speed? Power? Will it be enough to beat this guy? How do you know? Hows your ability to absorb punishment? Many fighters go into the fight pretty confident-until they get hit. If your in a situation where you just aren't getting along with this guy for whatever reason, and you both are hoping for the chance to kick each other's asses, that first hit will quickly change that attitude. You'll go from doing whatever you can to hurt this guy to doing whatever you can to not get hit again. Unless the guy can't hit that hard. But how do you know? The guy may knock you out with one punch. you never know.
And I assume that with no training and no experience, that you will fight by your instincts. Nothing we can tell you here will make you NOT do that. Once the fight starts, you will forget anything you've read on here anyway. It takes practice to be able to keep thinking clearly during a fight. But if you fight by instincts, you will make mistakes. When the fight starts, you will instinctively swing like a windmill, thinking nothing of distance, timing, and defensive striking. If the punches that hit you hurt too much, you will instinctively cover up. You will instinctively turn on your stomach if you find yourself on the ground on the bottom. You may instinctively close your eyes or put your head down when you swing. There are many instinctive things an inexperienced person automatically does in a fight, but they are NOT recommended! (Unless, of course, you know what your doing, i.e.turning on stomach). It takes practice and experience to overcome these instincts. And if you can't fight without overcoming these instincts, you will make mistakes. Just hope that your opponent is just as inexperienced to not take advantage of them.
Enough people on here have told you not to fight. I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I will say this though: you want advice about fighting? Plain and simple: train for it. And don't expect to go out and tear through everyone you meet after 2 measly lessons, and one week of lifting. Even 200 lessons won't make you invincible. Or 2000. There have been individuals who've trained for years, and gotten KO'd in their first altercation.
I could tell you to just kick him in the balls, and he may be wearing a cup; to sucker punch him, and he may do it to you while your waiting to jump him; to pull a knife on him, and he may pull out a gun. Point is, nothing we can tell you here will give you an edge. There are too many possible scenarios. We can tell you to practice your left hook and right cross combo, and he may duck under and take you to the ground. We can tell you all kinds of things to do, but since there are too many possible scenarios, which one will work? Who knows until it happens. Which is why I said earlier that many fighters out there study many facets of self-defense. So they can be as prepared as they can for every possible scenario, whether it be standing up or on the ground.
So I'm sorry that there is no quick solution in learning self-defense. Your question is the same as asking, "I need to fix a car tomorrow, any advice?". Hopefully, putting it that way will give you an idea as to how hard it would be to answer your question.
But if your personal fighting record is 0-0-0, keep it that way. You'll sleep better at night. Believe me.
 
For the most part this thread has some good advice from different viewpoints.

My advice:

If you want to learn to fight find a school with the meanest players. You'll know when you find it. If I walk into a school and, after watching for a while, don't want to play with anybody, then it's a school I will consider. Going against guys many times bigger, stronger, faster, and more talented than you will teach you respect for their strengths and weaknesses. It will also teach you that even in a friendly environment fighting hurts. A friend slamming you into a mat so hard you loose you breath makes you appreciate how it would feel to be thrown into a water-fountain, curb, table, steps, etc by an enemy. After your friends kick you ass enough you will not want to fight.

So what if somebody wants to fight you? I use humor. The last time I was almost in a fight I was with my girlfriend’s parents and the kid was really asking for it. Instead of fighting I took another sip of my drink and with a big smile :) said," Are you drunk or just stupid?" Everyone, including his friends, started laughing so hard that he had to back down. To this day my girlfriends parents think that is the funniest thing they have ever seen.
 
Just an update. Things have been getting even worse. 3 schools meat a lunch every day ready to beat the cr@p out of anyone from my school. The cops have to come in during lunch and make sure that no one gets into it. I have since taken another way to go out for lunch :) These people are though sh!t! I have hurd that they will beat you until you fall down and kick you until you almost die! and if you get up, your fu*ked! I will not be getting into that!
 
It is funny that for people that are saying to drop the fight many of you are willing to fight Rtom over the fact that he shouldn't fight.
IS the irony lost on you bunch?
If Tom wants to fight then he can. You think that all people are the same? That you know what is best for a Indian tribe member in Amazon and a cowboy in the Pampas?
Leave the man alone.
Control yourselves and actually be a pacifist.
IF Tom is a Viking then let him be the best Viking he can be.
 
here are some basic principals I believe everyone should take into consideration when you get into a confrontation with someone eager to fight.

always watch their hands,they wont use their eyes to stab you.
like I mention earlier 90% of victims dont know they have been stabbed until the fight is over and the adrenaline stops and your shirt feels wet,next thing ya know your bleeding good and it can be very serious. I will also add that even if ya know you got stabbed its very likely you didnt see it coming as untrained fighters dont look at the hands of someone approaching them.

a skilled knife fighter will never let you know he had a knife or other edged weapon,they are meticulous and have 5 angles of attack I can make a diagram and show you if someone wants to see them. usually this wont be a large knife although it could be, most skilled fighters prefer a small pocket knife which can be hidden in the hand with some of the blade exposed to stab you when he punches you.
there are also fighters who are mentally or emotionally disturbed ,these fuckers you wont stop,and they usually leave a huge mess because they will keep stabbing until there anger or frustration is out.

there is also a streetfighter type of fighter,who will slash violently and quickly,with no real pattern,then back off,and once they see they hurt you will come in again at full force,because their confidence has been built, they guys will also try and keep you at a distance and protect their face with the knife,much like a boxer blocks with his fists,they are scared and feed off your fear.

the most important thing to do is treat every confrontation like the person has a weapon,I already stated why earlier, and the best thing you can do is hit that person to stun them and get the fuck out of there,hopefully your shot stunned him enough to give you a few yards lead.

another key point is you dont win a knife fight,you survive it,and there is no technique to prevent you from being cut when someone attacks you with a edged weapon.

this is just a brief overview,I have about 10-15 pages of notes on this subject but I really dont have time to type them up,but I hope by reading this some of you hot shots wake up and realize even a simple fist fight these days is often much more,and it proves nothing. Ive had many knifes pulled on me when I was bouncing regularly in a bar last year, Ive been cut,wrestled a guy and he ended up cut bad, it just isnt worth it to fight over anything because there are people out there who dont give a fuck if you go away in a body bag. you may think your tough shit but wait until that knife cuts you and tell me you didnt shit your pants.

Im also not saying dont defend yourself,Im saying dont start shit,if someone hits you,defend yourself,hit them enough so you can get away,dont stay and fight.

I also agree with whoever said the people who are gung ho on fighting havent had their ass beat bad, I have by three guys working as the only bouncer,it fucking sucked,and it was because I cut a guy off,I didnt even put a hand on him.
 
I agree, teep. Many of the people on here that advocate for the cause of NOT street fighting, will easily start and instigate arguments here at the drop of a hat. Look at the thread I started and I had many of chances to rebuttle certain negative comments(and get into arguments), but I just let them go. I won't rally for non-violence, then start cutting down someone if they don't see my point of view. True, the irony of it.
 
I used look for fights when I was younger...not anymore fighting has changed and you have to worry about weapons and crap so I don't anymore unless I am absolutely backed into a corner.

You can take all the classes in the world, kickboxing, wrestling, boxing..whatever it doesn't matter in a street fight. It is as much as a mental game as it is a physical game. First size means jack all, I have beaten guys twice my size and have beaten by guys smaller then me. If you think or your opponent thinks they will win because of size...then you are letting your guard down..always give the benefit of the doubt. Scare tactics don't work..unless its a weapon..how times have you heard, don't fight him he's huge...might work some of the time but what if you run into a guy like me, who will fight anyone and is not scared of anyone?

Again I don't promote fighting, it's not worth it, even if you are defending yourself and are right, all it takes is the guy to hit his head the wrong way, die and then you get charged for murder...but hey sometimes shit happens.

If anyone needs tips I am more then happy to give, I think people should know in case something happens.
 
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