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street fight!

BTW?

How long have you been lifting? How much do you weigh?

How much do you bench, squat and deadlift?

What's that? Your lifts are pitiful? Aww, that's too bad son.

Guess you better get into some scuffles. Maybe you'll get stronger.

LOL. :freak:
 
Accuflex, its been almost two weeks since you started this thread. Have things calmed down, or are things still going on? Of course, people who have gotten into fights are going to tell you to try to get out of it. They are just trying to tell you what they know from experience. One thing about fights. They can actually be traumatic. If you do fight and nothing more comes of it,and you lose, you will lay awake at night thinking about all the ways things could've been different. You may feel humiliated, embarrassed, and wish it never happened. If you do win and nothing else comes out of it, people won't care. You might be the talk of the school for about an hour, but not the hour after. No one remembers fights but the fighters. And when people do talk about it, don't think that it will be in a positive light. Some people may think that it was cool and fun to watch, but nothing more. And the most important thing: females aren't impressed. Oh, some may be, but they usually aren't worth impressing in the first place.
Maybe none of that has nothing to do with your situation. I don't know. I do know that if it is happening in school, it could be over a girl, general dislike of each other, bullying, or some other school-type situation. You never told us.
But for someone who has never been in a fight, there's nothing here that we can tell you that will give you some special ability to kick ass. There is no secret magical martial arts move or technique that will make you invincible, or give you ability to guarantee victory if you fight. Maybe thats what you came here for, but there simply isn't any such thing. That's why many fighters train in many types of striking AND takedowns AND groundfighting AND submissions. There's simply no way around it, you either study it and learn it or you don't know it. You don't know if your opponent will be weak or strong in striking, or proficient or a slug on the ground. You MUST also know yourself! Its surprising how many guys (especially in school) will walk around like Billy Badass, ready to tear into anyone, without ever training for it, or even throwing an actual punch. They just assume that they will somehow develop fighting skills the very moment a fight starts. Or they make the assumption that size is the biggest factor in determining who will win a fight, so they pick on smaller people. You have to know your own weaknesses and strengths. Hows your cardio? Speed? Power? Will it be enough to beat this guy? How do you know? Hows your ability to absorb punishment? Many fighters go into the fight pretty confident-until they get hit. If your in a situation where you just aren't getting along with this guy for whatever reason, and you both are hoping for the chance to kick each other's asses, that first hit will quickly change that attitude. You'll go from doing whatever you can to hurt this guy to doing whatever you can to not get hit again. Unless the guy can't hit that hard. But how do you know? The guy may knock you out with one punch. you never know.
And I assume that with no training and no experience, that you will fight by your instincts. Nothing we can tell you here will make you NOT do that. Once the fight starts, you will forget anything you've read on here anyway. It takes practice to be able to keep thinking clearly during a fight. But if you fight by instincts, you will make mistakes. When the fight starts, you will instinctively swing like a windmill, thinking nothing of distance, timing, and defensive striking. If the punches that hit you hurt too much, you will instinctively cover up. You will instinctively turn on your stomach if you find yourself on the ground on the bottom. You may instinctively close your eyes or put your head down when you swing. There are many instinctive things an inexperienced person automatically does in a fight, but they are NOT recommended! (Unless, of course, you know what your doing, i.e.turning on stomach). It takes practice and experience to overcome these instincts. And if you can't fight without overcoming these instincts, you will make mistakes. Just hope that your opponent is just as inexperienced to not take advantage of them.
Enough people on here have told you not to fight. I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I will say this though: you want advice about fighting? Plain and simple: train for it. And don't expect to go out and tear through everyone you meet after 2 measly lessons, and one week of lifting. Even 200 lessons won't make you invincible. Or 2000. There have been individuals who've trained for years, and gotten KO'd in their first altercation.
I could tell you to just kick him in the balls, and he may be wearing a cup; to sucker punch him, and he may do it to you while your waiting to jump him; to pull a knife on him, and he may pull out a gun. Point is, nothing we can tell you here will give you an edge. There are too many possible scenarios. We can tell you to practice your left hook and right cross combo, and he may duck under and take you to the ground. We can tell you all kinds of things to do, but since there are too many possible scenarios, which one will work? Who knows until it happens. Which is why I said earlier that many fighters out there study many facets of self-defense. So they can be as prepared as they can for every possible scenario, whether it be standing up or on the ground.
So I'm sorry that there is no quick solution in learning self-defense. Your question is the same as asking, "I need to fix a car tomorrow, any advice?". Hopefully, putting it that way will give you an idea as to how hard it would be to answer your question.
But if your personal fighting record is 0-0-0, keep it that way. You'll sleep better at night. Believe me.
 
For the most part this thread has some good advice from different viewpoints.

My advice:

If you want to learn to fight find a school with the meanest players. You'll know when you find it. If I walk into a school and, after watching for a while, don't want to play with anybody, then it's a school I will consider. Going against guys many times bigger, stronger, faster, and more talented than you will teach you respect for their strengths and weaknesses. It will also teach you that even in a friendly environment fighting hurts. A friend slamming you into a mat so hard you loose you breath makes you appreciate how it would feel to be thrown into a water-fountain, curb, table, steps, etc by an enemy. After your friends kick you ass enough you will not want to fight.

So what if somebody wants to fight you? I use humor. The last time I was almost in a fight I was with my girlfriend’s parents and the kid was really asking for it. Instead of fighting I took another sip of my drink and with a big smile :) said," Are you drunk or just stupid?" Everyone, including his friends, started laughing so hard that he had to back down. To this day my girlfriends parents think that is the funniest thing they have ever seen.
 
Just an update. Things have been getting even worse. 3 schools meat a lunch every day ready to beat the cr@p out of anyone from my school. The cops have to come in during lunch and make sure that no one gets into it. I have since taken another way to go out for lunch :) These people are though sh!t! I have hurd that they will beat you until you fall down and kick you until you almost die! and if you get up, your fu*ked! I will not be getting into that!
 
It is funny that for people that are saying to drop the fight many of you are willing to fight Rtom over the fact that he shouldn't fight.
IS the irony lost on you bunch?
If Tom wants to fight then he can. You think that all people are the same? That you know what is best for a Indian tribe member in Amazon and a cowboy in the Pampas?
Leave the man alone.
Control yourselves and actually be a pacifist.
IF Tom is a Viking then let him be the best Viking he can be.
 
here are some basic principals I believe everyone should take into consideration when you get into a confrontation with someone eager to fight.

always watch their hands,they wont use their eyes to stab you.
like I mention earlier 90% of victims dont know they have been stabbed until the fight is over and the adrenaline stops and your shirt feels wet,next thing ya know your bleeding good and it can be very serious. I will also add that even if ya know you got stabbed its very likely you didnt see it coming as untrained fighters dont look at the hands of someone approaching them.

a skilled knife fighter will never let you know he had a knife or other edged weapon,they are meticulous and have 5 angles of attack I can make a diagram and show you if someone wants to see them. usually this wont be a large knife although it could be, most skilled fighters prefer a small pocket knife which can be hidden in the hand with some of the blade exposed to stab you when he punches you.
there are also fighters who are mentally or emotionally disturbed ,these fuckers you wont stop,and they usually leave a huge mess because they will keep stabbing until there anger or frustration is out.

there is also a streetfighter type of fighter,who will slash violently and quickly,with no real pattern,then back off,and once they see they hurt you will come in again at full force,because their confidence has been built, they guys will also try and keep you at a distance and protect their face with the knife,much like a boxer blocks with his fists,they are scared and feed off your fear.

the most important thing to do is treat every confrontation like the person has a weapon,I already stated why earlier, and the best thing you can do is hit that person to stun them and get the fuck out of there,hopefully your shot stunned him enough to give you a few yards lead.

another key point is you dont win a knife fight,you survive it,and there is no technique to prevent you from being cut when someone attacks you with a edged weapon.

this is just a brief overview,I have about 10-15 pages of notes on this subject but I really dont have time to type them up,but I hope by reading this some of you hot shots wake up and realize even a simple fist fight these days is often much more,and it proves nothing. Ive had many knifes pulled on me when I was bouncing regularly in a bar last year, Ive been cut,wrestled a guy and he ended up cut bad, it just isnt worth it to fight over anything because there are people out there who dont give a fuck if you go away in a body bag. you may think your tough shit but wait until that knife cuts you and tell me you didnt shit your pants.

Im also not saying dont defend yourself,Im saying dont start shit,if someone hits you,defend yourself,hit them enough so you can get away,dont stay and fight.

I also agree with whoever said the people who are gung ho on fighting havent had their ass beat bad, I have by three guys working as the only bouncer,it fucking sucked,and it was because I cut a guy off,I didnt even put a hand on him.
 
I agree, teep. Many of the people on here that advocate for the cause of NOT street fighting, will easily start and instigate arguments here at the drop of a hat. Look at the thread I started and I had many of chances to rebuttle certain negative comments(and get into arguments), but I just let them go. I won't rally for non-violence, then start cutting down someone if they don't see my point of view. True, the irony of it.
 
I used look for fights when I was younger...not anymore fighting has changed and you have to worry about weapons and crap so I don't anymore unless I am absolutely backed into a corner.

You can take all the classes in the world, kickboxing, wrestling, boxing..whatever it doesn't matter in a street fight. It is as much as a mental game as it is a physical game. First size means jack all, I have beaten guys twice my size and have beaten by guys smaller then me. If you think or your opponent thinks they will win because of size...then you are letting your guard down..always give the benefit of the doubt. Scare tactics don't work..unless its a weapon..how times have you heard, don't fight him he's huge...might work some of the time but what if you run into a guy like me, who will fight anyone and is not scared of anyone?

Again I don't promote fighting, it's not worth it, even if you are defending yourself and are right, all it takes is the guy to hit his head the wrong way, die and then you get charged for murder...but hey sometimes shit happens.

If anyone needs tips I am more then happy to give, I think people should know in case something happens.
 
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