standing military vs seated military

[Sub-Zero]

i understand standing works your standing muscles, but is there any point to doing these for shoulder growth?

if you can get more weight with seated should you go witht hat, because your putting the system under more weight when your seated, or does standing shoulder press do something that induces more growth than seated

summary: standing with less weight, or seated with more weight, for shoulder growth

 

[guldukat]

i understand standing works your standing muscles, but is there any point to doing these for shoulder growth?

if you can get more weight with seated should you go witht hat, because your putting the system under more weight when your seated, or does standing shoulder press do something that induces more growth than seated

summary: standing with less weight, or seated with more weight, for shoulder growth

Very good question!

I wish I had an answer. I've not done standing presses in quite awhile. I really like them, though, and should work them back into my rotation soon.

I can say that sheer weight isn't always the best means to the ends we seek. For example, I can barbell row the most Yates-style, but I think I get more out of paused overhead rows w/ my torso about parallel to the floor.

That is not a very good analogy...how about decline press v. flat bench? Most people can decline a little more than they can hit on a flat. Some can decline press much more. But if we only did declines, would moving that heavier weight necessarily translate into more growth than flat benching alone?

That's still a crappy analogy, but I think you get the idea: the weight differential between standing and seated isn't so great, so you should be able to move the weights up at roughly similar rates w/ both. Further, we know the military works more muscles.

I'd say go with militaries first, but shoot--do both if you can You can make a good argument for either one!

 

[Sub-Zero]

Very good question!

I wish I had an answer. I've not done standing presses in quite awhile. I really like them, though, and should work them back into my rotation soon.

I can say that sheer weight isn't always the best means to the ends we seek. For example, I can barbell row the most Yates-style, but I think I get more out of paused overhead rows w/ my torso about parallel to the floor.

That is not a very good analogy...how about decline press v. flat bench? Most people can decline a little more than they can hit on a flat. Some can decline press much more. But if we only did declines, would moving that heavier weight necessarily translate into more growth than flat benching alone?

That's still a crappy analogy, but I think you get the idea: the weight differential between standing and seated isn't so great, so you should be able to move the weights up at roughly similar rates w/ both. Further, we know the military works more muscles.

I'd say go with militaries first, but shoot--do both if you can You can make a good argument for either one!

thats the same thought process i went through, so im still confused lol thanks tho

 

[string_bean00]

Standing limits the amount of weight you can use due to your back. If you're doing seated presses with good form (ie, zero slouching!) than I'd go with those.

 

[ruggermu]

I personnally like both. Mainly though it is because of the benefits to your core. But I do standing first in my shopulder day. Then I go to seated. If it's weight that your worried about go to standing cheat presses, I rotate those in every 3rd week or so and like them very much.

 

[WoodyAllen]

Standing, from the floor - much more of a compound movement. Easy choice.

 

[kingc_79]

for me its standing because i can use more weight by using a lil leg drive

 

[Madcow2]

If you are pushing more seated, there's a reason and it's not a good one (the lean is either making it into an incline, stability issues in a possible variety of areas, or you are benefitting from not pressing the first rep from a deep stationary position). Use some leg drive, push press, whatever. You can't curl more with your back up against a wall and legs/lower body perfectly still so if you are pressing more by locking yourself down there's a reason.

 

[gettinkrunkd]

for me its standing because i can use more weight by using a lil leg drive

i prefer seated for that specific reason....I like to get the most out of it using good form.

 

[guldukat]

If you are pushing more seated, there's a reason and it's not a good one (the lean is either making it into an incline, stability issues in a possible variety of areas, or you are benefitting from not pressing the first rep from a deep stationary position). Use some leg drive, push press, whatever. You can't curl more with your back up against a wall and legs/lower body perfectly still so if you are pressing more by locking yourself down there's a reason.

Good points.

Another reason I see people pushing more weight on seated press is ROM. Most guys at my gym only lower the bar to about eye level--if that low!