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Speed n Strength Cycle

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studlife22

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I am 24 6'2 243lbs ~12% bf. I am considering doing a speed n strength cycle but would like your input.

Week 1-6
Anavar 50mg/day 250/wk
Test Cypionate 500/wk
Hcg 10iu/day 50/wk

Week 7,8
Nolva 20mg/day
Hcg 10iu/day

Would it be beneficial to add some eq or anything else?
Any suggestions appreciated
 
are you a track athlete. You mentioned speed. . I am really curious as to what a good cycle would be to improve speed asnd strength without the unessisary bulk.. Your cycle looks good but I thought winny was a favorate for speed athletes. Many track guys prefer test prop over cyp because you retain less water.
 
Winny can be really hard on the joints so i decided to go with var instead. I used prop before and liked it i was just able to get a hold of cyp. I am not a track athlete but do need to be fast for my sport
 
Hgh for 6 weeks will do nothing.

If u get drug tested u should leave the EQ alone. Stays with u too long.

I'd do test prop 350mg per week
Mast prop 700mg per week
Anavar 80mg per day
 
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I dont like the cycle the test should be ran for long maybe 10 weeks

var 1-4
test1-10
var8-12
hcg start week 6

change pct needs to be a little stronger
 
I play linebacker.
I have seen solid gains the last 4 mos all natty but would now like to harden up a bit while maintaining size/speed/strength. This will only be my 2nd cycle. My first was a year ago and was test prop and winny. I was coming off surgery and it really helped get me back.
What stronger pct do you suggest?
 
Steroids can make you faster .steroids will make you faster, steroids will give you more endurence. Thats with proper diet and excersise of coarse. What the hell is this crap I hear about steroids not working for speed. I know a lot of running backs who would juice to improve speed successfully. Anavar and test cyp are a great stack for a linebacker. Be safe and good luck. :)
 
ps . No disrespect to stevensi. I am a 5k runner and have improved my times with cycling steroids intoa training program. I believe some of my gains are well maintained . It also helps with workout recovery.
 
rouss said:
ps . No disrespect to stevensi. I am a 5k runner and have improved my times with cycling steroids intoa training program. I believe some of my gains are well maintained . It also helps with workout recovery.
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what did you run? how much did you improve your 5K speed?

testosterone converts to estrogen, it adds water to your muscles.. i dont see how its possible you improved your speed when you carry more water.

i did not improve my speed at all on AAS. i am extremely skeptical that you can run a 5K with calf pumps and get a decent speed.
 
rouss said:
Steroids can make you faster .steroids will make you faster, steroids will give you more endurence. Thats with proper diet and excersise of coarse.
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Blanket statements like this can be totally misleading. Steroids can KILL your speed AND endurance also regardless of diet and exercise.
 
linebacker speed would be short distance. Anavar and tren could help speed and performance at that potition. I ran low dose dbol with winny and my 5k speed went up like crazy . I mean crazy. I was so amazed. Absolutly GREAT for my middle distance running. Better workout recovery , better times , I could train more , By burst where faster and could be maintained longer. Less catabolism in muscle and more endurence. . I think the key was low dosage(15mgs dbol , 10 mgs winny). .....................I went from about 23:30 minutes down to just over 20:00. Now natty(for a while) about22:00 .. I am 37 and have only been running for about a year. I always wear a 12 lb weight vest when I train and time myself. Perhaps if I was an elite runner hormones wouldnt be making as big of an impact but I felt the difference
 
I think the key was keeping the dose low . the winny probably increased red blood cell count . that can effect indurence
 
that looked like a really good cycle and good dosages you could of used igf-1 or some EQ they would of given you some nice lean muscle to support that too but it looked like a good dosage bro
 
Well try Tbol, it was used by the East German olympic athletes, so I would think low doses would be good to maintain muscle and get an edge!
 
AAS is touchy for endurance. Many of them increase RBC which can aid endurance but there is also a point where increase RBC puts additional demands on the heart. As the blood thickens it becomes harder to pump nullifying any benefit from having the higher than normal RBC in the first place. The additional strain from pumping the thickened blood can also cause a boat load of heart related issues.

Ideally you would want to pick one product, run it for a few weeks, track workouts and get RBC tested. Up the dose a little monitor endurance and get blood to check RBC, rinse and repeat until endurance starts to suffer. Then you will know how a certain product affects YOU in terms of endurance.
 
the gear you use will not be as influential as the routine you use.

if you want to prioritize speed. Keep the dosages low-moderate and train like crazy put all you have into the training, diet and rest.
 
I'm doing a speed (well maybe more endurance) and strength cycle this summer and so far it seems like running with gear is sweet. I don't have the problems with soreness, shin splints (slight so far), joint pain, etc. that I did when I was 15 years younger and 60-100 lbs lighter. I am currently a week into a 50 mg ed each of test p, npp, eq, and oral turinabol 20 week cycle. I am 33 and nearly 300 lbs., so I was very worried about joints. This is my first time using npp (and ot if that's what's doing it) and it reminds me of those red wing boot commercials from a few years back. I got me a pair of metaphors! Now it's almost like I wonder how anyone runs without the right AAS! :FRlol: You'd either have to be a fool or really know what the hell you are doing to run while on winny or tren.

The major problem I'm having is figuring out a regimen that combines the strength and running for optimal effect. I've been taking it easy on leg exercises in the gym hoping that the running combined with AAS will transform the legs to their liking.

So far I feel the best I've ever felt. I can train hard in gym and/or run a few miles a day and still have a hell of a lot of spring in my step the rest of the day. The legs seem to recover very fast for me while the upper body is feeling much more solid already. I'm starting to feel like a quick moving brick wall. Granted it's only one week in, but the short esters and especially oral t are doing their work nicely. At eight weeks, the eq should be kicking in and I'll be a powerlifting Forrest Gump and shit! :jester:

I take it from reading this board that no one is aware of any training plans for chemically enhanced runners. The runners seem far less sophisticated than weightlifters when it comes to the actual science, even not including AAS. I'm probably going to have to ad lib it possibly modifying existing plans according to how I feel. I got a Garmin Forerunner 305 with GPS, heart rate monitor, and foot pod. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I can download all the data onto my computer and analyze my runs.
 
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