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So what to do about raising the debt ceiling?

mrplunkey

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Raise it with no strings attached?

Force some spending cuts first?

Shut the whole mess down for a few months?
 
I think we should ask your hair?
 
At the end of the day not raising it isnt a viable option.

Best course would be to raise it with conditions
..but the types of conditions that we would need wouldnt go through, so its all a moot point I guess.
 
unfortunately, there needs to be more pain...A LOT MORE...before there can be any healing...all the hand-wringing is merely prolonging the agony.
 
They should raise it quarterly with quarterly spending cut goals. If the goals aren't reached, the ceiling isn't raised and the government shuts down.
 
Americans have already enjoyed decades of debt-fueled growth with no increase in actual productin except shuffling money around on wall st.

Time to pay the piper.
And people sure are paying for it. That's okay, as long as the banking system and elites are protected, that's all that matters.

c
 
1) Cancel all social programs, and re-open the 1930s era soup kitchens and county poor houses... No more 4-digit monthly welfare checks for the lazy.

2) Restore Social Security funds for ONLY the retired and the disabled & long-term ill.. NO MORE stealing it for weird special interests.

3) Disband the EPA, and most other government agencies, and repeal all environmental laws on businesses, and allow oil drilling on any privately owned property with a one-dollar permit.

4) Remove all litigation lawyers from society. Lawyers should be used only to draw up wills, and prosecute & defend criminal suspects; not to steal money from doctors and business owners under the lies of liability.

5) Abandon the IRS, and institute a flat 10% income tax across the board.

6) Hold a special election to figure out where to stuff all the extra money we just saved!!!!

Charles
 
1) Cancel all social programs, and re-open the 1930s era soup kitchens and county poor houses... No more 4-digit monthly welfare checks for the lazy.

2) Restore Social Security funds for ONLY the retired and the disabled & long-term ill.. NO MORE stealing it for weird special interests.

3) Disband the EPA, and most other government agencies, and repeal all environmental laws on businesses, and allow oil drilling on any privately owned property with a one-dollar permit.

4) Remove all litigation lawyers from society. Lawyers should be used only to draw up wills, and prosecute & defend criminal suspects; not to steal money from doctors and business owners under the lies of liability.

5) Abandon the IRS, and institute a flat 10% income tax across the board.

6) Hold a special election to figure out where to stuff all the extra money we just saved!!!!

Charles

This is a good start.
 
1) Cancel all social programs, and re-open the 1930s era soup kitchens and county poor houses... No more 4-digit monthly welfare checks for the lazy.

2) Restore Social Security funds for ONLY the retired and the disabled & long-term ill.. NO MORE stealing it for weird special interests.

3) Disband the EPA, and most other government agencies, and repeal all environmental laws on businesses, and allow oil drilling on any privately owned property with a one-dollar permit.

4) Remove all litigation lawyers from society. Lawyers should be used only to draw up wills, and prosecute & defend criminal suspects; not to steal money from doctors and business owners under the lies of liability.

5) Abandon the IRS, and institute a flat 10% income tax across the board.

6) Hold a special election to figure out where to stuff all the extra money we just saved!!!!

Charles
That's too black and white, but I can understand where you are going. While we're at it, have the armed forced protect the country and not have bases all over the world. Fire 75% of them and use the rest for homeland protection.
 
That's too black and white, but I can understand where you are going. While we're at it, have the armed forced protect the country and not have bases all over the world. Fire 75% of them and use the rest for homeland protection.

I'd do that too. Broke is broke.

I'd also raise the age for SS and medicare by three months per year every year starting now. So in 24 years, the eligibility age for either would be 73.
 
Fuckin pipe dreams that the politicians would never implement because they would lose too many votes and get booted out of their precious offices.
 
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