So if there not going to tell us, lets just figure it out ourselves... whats going on

[velvett]

??????????

I'm with Ranger...I'm sure spatts would have taken this matter to the proper people to sort things out--she has proved to be a person of integrity. I find it hard to believe that no one knows why she left...she has no problem saying exactly what she thinks and giving reasons to back it up. Trust is something that is built, earned, and kept. I can't think of someone on EF that I know who is more respected by the majority of members (in my experience here) than spatts.

Spatts leaving = RED FLAG (to me).

As far as banning someone for voicing concerns that the majority of board members have...and supposedly because of the reasons you posted above--I think that is ridiculous...but that is just my opinion.

I don't have any intention of bad mouthing EF, but I can reassure you that the recent public exodus of members is very telling.

It's really matter of opinion and a matter of friendship - she left because her home is where her family is and as it seems her family started their own web site.

My view as it is anyway.

You could just ask her - I don't agree with her but I doubt she would lie to you.


As for banning MOST sites (including CM) will ban members that deliberately cause drama and bring negative attention to the site that they have choosen to leave.

Spatts left - she wasn't banned.

 

[Nonerz]

Spatts left - she wasn't banned.

no, I meant slobberknocker being banned...it was pretty clear that spatts left willingly...just not why. I didn't realize that spatts "family" was affiliated with another website (I assume that you're refering to her "training family").

 

[from zero]

Citrus spent almost no time in the training forum after he was a mod.

He still spent time over here and helped people out. That's more than I can say for a lot of mods.

 

[velvett]

no, I meant slobberknocker being banned...it was pretty clear that spatts left willingly...just not why. I didn't realize that spatts "family" was affiliated with another website (I assume that you're refering to her "training family").

Like I said most sites will ban members that deliberately cause drama and bring negative attention to the site that they have choosen to leave.

Slobberknocker said he was leaving because Spatt was leaving.

After these prior two weeks of "I'm bailing b/c so and so is" and the many many threads of lies both on this site as well as others it has come down to - you want to leave because you think someone else is leaving because "something bad is going on" then you can be helped along.

I don't know why someone would mind being banned from a site they no longer wish to visit.


Also, I apologize if my words come across harsh - I do not mean it towards you personally.

 

[Nonerz]

it has come down to - you want to leave because you think someone else is leaving because "something bad is going on" then you can be helped along.

I don't know why someone would mind being banned from a site they no longer wish to visit.


Also, I apologize if my words come across harsh - I do not mean it towards you personally.

?????
"helped along" = banned

Being banned says to me, "you're not wanted here." It takes away that persons choice to stay or go willingly. Perhaps, in the interest of keeping the boards "clean" from these types of posts, I see what you're saying. Otherwise, banning someone is definitely sending a message.

no worries, I don't take what you say personally.

 

[velvett]

?????
"helped along" = banned

Being banned says to me, "you're not wanted here." It takes away that persons choice to stay or go willingly. Perhaps, in the interest of keeping the boards "clean" from these types of posts, I see what you're saying. Otherwise, banning someone is definitely sending a message.

no worries, I don't take what you say personally.

You're right.

If you have or if anyone here has a suggestion regarding this please PM me.

I have to tell you I am as baffled by the events of the past two weeks as most people here are and I don't know any more than you do...as far as truth.

I'm looking forward to this being over - resolved would be a plus but truly I would be happy for it to be over.

 

[Nonerz]

You're right.

If you have or if anyone here has a suggestion regarding this please PM me.

I have to tell you I am as baffled by the events of the past two weeks as most people here are and I don't know any more than you do...as far as truth.

I'm looking forward to this being over - resolved would be a plus but truly I would be happy for it to be over.

I publicly suggest that all the locked threads be unlocked, so we can decifer for ourselves (as EF members) what the truth is.

What does everyone else think? Why the hush, hush, partial explainations? If it is the truth, then expose it!

Just a suggestion to help sort out this mess...

 

[big4life]

I jiust wish that the banning policy was in effect when HI was posting his half dozen or more goodbye threads.

As for the truth of this matter, I am sure that it is somewhere in the middle of what everyone has been saying.

 

[TheProject]

It's really matter of opinion and a matter of friendship - she left because her home is where her family is and as it seems her family started their own web site.

My view as it is anyway.

You could just ask her - I don't agree with her but I doubt she would lie to you.


As for banning MOST sites (including CM) will ban members that deliberately cause drama and bring negative attention to the site that they have choosen to leave.

Spatts left - she wasn't banned.

Bullshit.

If that were true, she would've left a long time ago. She invested a hell of a lot of time in this place, and it took a LOT to drive her away. To say that it's just because of another board is ludicrous.

Further, she announced her resignation, with explanation, as a mod, and was promptly banned--she can no longer access the boards.

Nonerz, the problem with unlocking the threads and letting it go as a free for all is that it furthers the drama...the truth will never come out, because there is no proof.

 

[Nonerz]

Nonerz, the problem with unlocking the threads and letting it go as a free for all is that it furthers the drama...the truth will never come out, because there is no proof.

Well, at least it would be for everyone to decide for themselves...not for mods to delete and lock threads as they see fit. What's to hide? On a another note, I don't see what more harm could possibly be done...