Snap decisions...

[-Ariel-]

So I'm doing research on how we make snap decisions based more on things we 'feel' more than the reasons we give ourselves and others as explanations...

For example, there is Vic Braden, a tennis judge for the last 50 years and who is such an expert at calling tennis shots that before the tennis player even hits the ball, tossing it in the air, Braden can with 97% accuracy predict whether or not the player will double fault, at a last tennis match in Russia, he predicted 20 in a row, before the player had even hit the ball, whether or not the player would be long or wide or whatever. There is something in the way the tennis player hold themselves, or the way they toss the ball, or even the fluidity of their motion that triggers something in his unconscious...

Art Historian Bernard Berenson could instantly spot an art fake, but distressed all of his colleagues, because he said that he would get an upset feeling, or a depressed feeling, or a ringing in his ears and instantly knew he was in the presence of something inauthentic...
George Soros, the billionaire investor's, son reported that while his father gave theories on how he invested, it was actually his back spasms that happened a couple of weeks before the market would change...

Anyway I'm doing a research paper on how powerful our subconscious actually really determines the decisions we make because we are basically blocked off from our subconscious through a 'locked door' and there is a mysterious nature behind our snap judgements...

Does anyone notice their ability to make snap judegements based on internal feelings? We give reasons based on logic, but they rarely correlate to the actual mysterious reason in which our subconscious determines our reactions...

Can you 'feel' instantly when someone digs on you? Can you 'feel' when U are being lied to or the situation is not right?
In a related article, our decisions are so much more dependent on our immediate environment, which interacts with our subconscious and determines the relation between feeling and thinking.... and I'm learning that we are much more dependent on how the environment suggests or manipulates our subconscious to feel a certain way...

Anybody good at making snap judgements... can u describe how u feel or what the triggers are?

The only immediate example I can think of is last night I had a date and within 3 minutes I already knew we had a connection... there was like a lighter feeling in the air, and an openness I sensed, I felt an instant, subtle energy in me... and I really can't describe it...

How long does it take u to notice if u have established a connection with someone else, or if u are attracted... My question here is with online dating, u don't have an interpersonal, direct connection, but u share thought patterns... can anyone make a snap judgement based on this form of communication if u are attracted to another person? Has anyone had any good or bad experiences with online dating? Specifically, did the person meet or not meet your preconceived notions of what u expected...

 

[hardrock]

I can tell in person when there is a connection, but I have been wrong. I wish i could tap into it at will.

 

[javaguru]

I didn't read past the first paragraph but she is definitely cheating on you.

 

[-Ariel-]

I can tell in person when there is a connection, but I have been wrong. I wish i could tap into it at will.

How wrong were u, like u there could have been an inital attraction... and then u may or she may have fucked things up after that... but the thing I've been reading is that in IRL, when u talk to someone or have convo, there is a little dance that happens, and the more charismatic person directs the movements... like u nod, she nods, u smile she smiles and there is a transference of energy from one person to the other... the most persuasive...

 

[-Ariel-]

I didn't read past the first paragraph but she is definitely cheating on you.

Maybe, but its only been one date, so we haven't become xclusive, any hawties in your classes?

 

[javaguru]

Maybe, but its only been one date, so we haven't become xclusive, any hawties in your classes?

Women are scandalous, she probably went with another guy the night before or the night after. In college, I went out with two wiminz in the same night. You need to overcome the programming of thinking they are special little creatures and see them as they truly are. Yes, I get flirted with but I see through their bullshit. I'm not their daddy or provider, I want an equal partner and most aren't up to the task....they try to blow bullshit up your ass with old cliche's and stereotypes. I've always considered my wiminz an equal...I give and expect the same in return. That's probably why I always fall for "independent" women....

 

[nefertiti]

Any time I've had an instant gut feeling that someone would play a large role in my life, I've never been wrong.

Any time i've been sure someone was lying to me, or holding something back, I've never been wrong.

 

[javaguru]

Any time I've had an instant gut feeling that someone would play a large role in my life, I've never been wrong.

Any time i've been sure someone was lying to me, or holding something back, I've never been wrong.

You are correct in the fact that if you can read people you need to go with your gut. Melody, true blue..strong values just like me but hers were based on faith in Jesus and mine are based on honor.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Over 75% of communication is based on non-verbal communication. People have an innate ability to feel and sense things via their normal senses, just like animals do. It is instinct.

 

[-Ariel-]

Women are scandalous, she probably went with another guy the night before or the night after. In college, I went out with two wiminz in the same night. You need to overcome the programming of thinking they are special little creatures and see them as they truly are. Yes, I get flirted with but I see through their bullshit. I'm not their daddy or provider, I want an equal partner and most aren't up to the task....they try to blow bullshit up your ass with old cliche's and stereotypes. I've always considered my wiminz an equal...I give and expect the same in return. That's probably why I always fall for "independent" women....

Upbeat as always... Do I sound burnt and bitter?
I've only been fucked over once... I think its our patterns that attract people to us, and that if a certain pattern of relationships happens more than once, then one should check themselves...
I'm 30 not jaded about peeps, but not totally ignorant, and yeah cautious...
so I'm okay with my 'programming'
I think you are a special little creature Java... seriously...

 

[-Ariel-]

Over 75% of communication is based on non-verbal communication. People have an innate ability to feel and sense things via their normal senses, just like animals do. It is instinct.

This is what I'm gettting at, there are many subconscious cues that we don't take into account on why we dig peeps, but I don't think the percentage is that high... like when u make her laugh, or U are able to use subtle charismatic emotional transference, a subtle mechanism we don't understand yet, this is not based on looks, but rather an 'energy' or awareness that we haven't nailed down yet... this is what I want to learn more about, I have a little degree, as we all do, like when its a topic that perks your interest, u notice u feel a subtle eagerness to disclose your take, well this transfers... the eagerness to other individuals, this is what sparks me...

 

[javaguru]

Upbeat as always... Do I sound burnt and bitter?
I've only been fucked over once... I think its our patterns that attract people to us, and that if a certain pattern of relationships happens more than once, then one should check themselves...
I'm 30 not jaded about peeps, but not totally ignorant, and yeah cautious...
so I'm okay with my 'programming'
I think you are a special little creature Java... seriously...

I volunteered for a special gauntlet and it shaped my view of the world, an eighteen year old shouldn't have to be exposed to certain things...
Most will never "get it"

 

[-Ariel-]

I volunteered for a special gauntlet and it shaped my view of the world, an eighteen year old shouldn't have to be exposed to certain things...
Most will never "get it"

wow, I was in navy, but never exposed to killing or anything like that,
so yeah, I understand where u are coming from...
that said... 'most people, as in all, should never be exposed to that'
war may build loyalty, and some things like that like a respect for human life,
but for every mccain there are thousands if not millions of schizophrenics, ptsd, and generally fucked up good peeps, never made it out...
ptsd is no joke, and as far as war goes I only pray I never 'get it'

 

[lartinos]

Example being any decision a female makes.....

 

[-Ariel-]

Any time I've had an instant gut feeling that someone would play a large role in my life, I've never been wrong.

Any time i've been sure someone was lying to me, or holding something back, I've never been wrong.

U know exactly what I'm talking bout, and this is what I dig about u...
How did dinner party go...
I can already tell U, your diver dude is what we refer to as a 'salesman' or emotional transferer type where through his charismatic ways is able to transfer his eagerness through subtle mechanisms that win peeps over, anyway this is what I think through your descriptions of him...
a great quality to have...

 

[javaguru]

wow, I was in navy, but never exposed to killing or anything like that,
so yeah, I understand where u are coming from...
that said... 'most people, as in all, should never be exposed to that'
war may build loyalty, and some things like that like a respect for human life,
but for every mccain there are thousands if not millions of schizophrenics, ptsd, and generally fucked up good peeps, never made it out...
ptsd is no joke, and as far as war goes I only pray I never 'get it'

I was raised in a military family...I love the line from "Apocalypse Now"..."the horror." I was a double volunteer...

 

[-Ariel-]

I was raised in a military family...I love the line from "Apocalypse Now"..."the horror." I was a double volunteer...

The interesting thing about that movie is that Martin Sheen suffered severe depression from making that movie and ptsd... it fucked him up bad...
Even making a movie about war is no joke as the same thing happened to his son in Platoon...

 

[needtogetarmy]

This is what I'm gettting at, there are many subconscious cues that we don't take into account on why we dig peeps, but I don't think the percentage is that high... like when u make her laugh, or U are able to use subtle charismatic emotional transference, a subtle mechanism we don't understand yet, this is not based on looks, but rather an 'energy' or awareness that we haven't nailed down yet... this is what I want to learn more about, I have a little degree, as we all do, like when its a topic that perks your interest, u notice u feel a subtle eagerness to disclose your take, well this transfers... the eagerness to other individuals, this is what sparks me...

The percentage is that high. I've read some studies where it is as high as 90% Check out the marketing research on nonverbal communication. The business world has been investigating this for years and it has been proven with strong, statistically significant, empirical results.

When I was doing legal work and interviewing clients I would always just sit there and watch them as they spoke. I can spot a liar and read a person like a book. The same goes for business consulting. You can tell when people are sincere or blowing air up you ass.

Another source:

"Sometimes non-verbal messages contradict the verbal; often they express true feelings more accurately than the spoken or written language," Herta A. Murphy and Herbert W. Hildebrandt noted in their book Effective Business Communications.

 

[javaguru]

Funny thing, this song finally gave me some solace and perspective...and it's pop bullshit....I hope I can find a valid embedded video...

 

[musclemom]

Read "The Field" by Lynn McTaggart. It will provide you with tons of interesting threads to weave into your paper because you start wondering if you're actually anticipating what will happen or are your conscious thoughts changing the course of the current state of affairs. Spooky action at a distance, etc., fun stuff.

Our high priestess likes to point out that linear time is merely a mortal concept. All that is/was/will be is happening right now. We are merely beings of energy moving through a vast sea of energy and if you can just open yourself up to the information that's freely available you can see all possibilities. The problem is we get in our own ways and overthink shit.

Instinct/intuition is a native skill, like reading body language. What happens is that people have an unconscious disconnect from those inner voices in favor of "civilized" behavior, doing what is socially correct or economically beneficial.

 

[nefertiti]

U know exactly what I'm talking bout, and this is what I dig about u...
How did dinner party go...
I can already tell U, your diver dude is what we refer to as a 'salesman' or emotional transferer type where through his charismatic ways is able to transfer his eagerness through subtle mechanisms that win peeps over, anyway this is what I think through your descriptions of him...
a great quality to have...

Dinner party is tomorrow.

You're right about S. He is absolutely infectious. I fully expect half my friends to take up diving after tomorrow, that's the effect he has on people. He speaks with his eyes, too. he's one of the ones I instantly knew would be a major player in my life. There was one moment...the first moment we ever had any sort of one on one communication. At the end of my advanced class, he shook my hand and smiled at me, and in that split moment of eye contact something in my brain shifted.

I've never actively pursued a guy before in my life...but i pretty much went balls to the wall with him. I took a lot of risks in doing so because I want to eventually work for this shop and it could have blown up in my face. but I trusted my gut and I was right, all based on that one moment.

 

[needtogetarmy]

If you have access to JSTOR or other academic research engines on campus hit up the business section. Bonoma and Felder, Nonverbal Communication in Marketing: Toward a Communicational Analysis, Journal of Marketing Research, Vol. 14, No. 2 (May, 1977), pp. 169-180 is a great place to start. If you run "nonverbal communication" as a key word through JSTOR you will hit a ton of material.

My primary field of research right now is the association of stock volume and volatility integrated with behavioral finance theory. The behavioral aspects are all founded on psychology. Most people think that finance and business are all about numbers which is not the case. A ton of studies, especially in marketing, involve human behavior and it is very interesting to read. Finance is just opening its doors to the psychological component. IMO it is the most important area to investigate.

 

[-Ariel-]

If you have access to JSTOR or other academic research engines on campus hit up the business section. Bonoma and Felder, Nonverbal Communication in Marketing: Toward a Communicational Analysis, Journal of Marketing Research, Vol. 14, No. 2 (May, 1977), pp. 169-180 is a great place to start. If you run "nonverbal communication" as a key word through JSTOR you will hit a ton of material.

My primary field of research right now is the association of stock volume and volatility integrated with behavioral finance theory. The behavioral aspects are all founded on psychology. Most people think that finance and business are all about numbers which is not the case. A ton of studies, especially in marketing, involve human behavior and it is very interesting to read. Finance is just opening its doors to the psychological component. IMO it is the most important area to investigate.

Awesome, yeah, I have access to JSTOR and will check out that article, behavioral finance theory... fascinating... Yeah, I'm taking a class on integral economics and how world economies will be shaped in future according to integral theory... there may be some ties for a future paper...
BTW, betting the house on Marquez...

 

[needtogetarmy]

Awesome, yeah, I have access to JSTOR and will check out that article, behavioral finance theory... fascinating... Yeah, I'm taking a class on integral economics and how world economies will be shaped in future according to integral theory... there may be some ties for a future paper...
BTW, betting the house on Marquez...

I just finished reading The Worldly Philosophers. It is a very entertaining book and goes over he history of economics. It is designed for the average person yet gives you an excellent overview of everyone involved in economics from Smith, to Marx etc.

Amazon.com: The Worldly Philosophers: The Lives, Times And Ideas Of The Great Economic Thinkers [7th Edition]: Robert L. Heilbroner: Books

I am undecided for the boxing match. It will be a good match!

 

[-Ariel-]

Read "The Field" by Lynn McTaggart. It will provide you with tons of interesting threads to weave into your paper because you start wondering if you're actually anticipating what will happen or are your conscious thoughts changing the course of the current state of affairs. Spooky action at a distance, etc., fun stuff.

Our high priestess likes to point out that linear time is merely a mortal concept. All that is/was/will be is happening right now. We are merely beings of energy moving through a vast sea of energy and if you can just open yourself up to the information that's freely available you can see all possibilities. The problem is we get in our own ways and overthink shit.

Instinct/intuition is a native skill, like reading body language. What happens is that people have an unconscious disconnect from those inner voices in favor of "civilized" behavior, doing what is socially correct or economically beneficial.

Great fucking post, and yeah your priestess hits everything right on the head, even quantum physics points out that how you observe something dictates what actually occurs...
I will check out that Field, I love anything called the 'Field" but U know we are both on same page with nature of reality...
Thanx for posting input MM...

 

[Crocodome]

Read "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell - same premise.

 

[-Ariel-]

Read "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell - same premise.

This is where I got the idea to use the article in class, I'm using the same researchers that he used and they are accessible articles... dude is a genius and tipping point fucking rocked, as well as providing me with a ton of research articles to use for class...
thanx.

 

[nimbus]

haha every time i see this thread i think about "snap-calling" in poker.

 

[-Ariel-]

haha every time i see this thread i think about "snap-calling" in poker.

Dude when is he gonna lift the bombage, no big deal, but its annoying to have to highlight your shit everytime, and yes we are all that lazy...
Ever see rounders, great movie when I first saw it, now I think its okay...
Is thay you in your avi...
If it is Why is there that stuff on your face?
Must be a transportation technology inside joke I don't get..
lol

 

[nimbus]

Dude when is he gonna lift the bombage, no big deal, but its annoying to have to highlight your shit everytime, and yes we are all that lazy...
Ever see rounders, great movie when I first saw it, now I think its okay...
Is thay you in your avi...
If it is Why is there that stuff on your face?
Must be a transportation technology inside joke I don't get..
lol

I assassinated Arabian's reputation on here pretty hardcore, so i doubt the bombing will stop anytime soon. i'll be more proactive with the text coloring
and lol wtf slow down. if you play poker a lot there's no way around thinking rounders is one of the best movies ever. That's Christian Bale's character from American Psycho in my avatar. As you have figured out by now, it is blood on his face. I don't knw any transportation technology jokes, and i hope i never do.

 

[-Ariel-]

I assassinated Arabian's reputation on here pretty hardcore, so i doubt the bombing will stop anytime soon. i'll be more proactive with the text coloring
and lol wtf slow down. if you play poker a lot there's no way around thinking rounders is one of the best movies ever. That's Christian Bale's character from American Psycho in my avatar. As you have figured out by now, it is blood on his face. I don't knw any transportation technology jokes, and i hope i never do.

I hate to agree.... hey we all make mistakes right, but there should be a limit as to how much u pay for some shit, so best thing to do is make peace with Arabian, but yeah, I'm not into poker as, my face pretty much reveals every motion I feel, don't have that stoic thing going on, but I don't...
Met a professional gambler or whatever in Vegas when visiting my parents, and he just talked about his ups and downs and the quality of the bellagio, interesting lifestyle, and I wonder if it gets harder if you got a family to feed, or an interesting study is how many professional gamblers or high rollers are family men...
I think Good Bros would work in Texas, maybe midwest, but not on the coasts...
but I really don't know

 

[nimbus]

I hate to agree.... hey we all make mistakes right, but there should be a limit as to how much u pay for some shit, so best thing to do is make peace with Arabian, but yeah, I'm not into poker as, my face pretty much reveals every motion I feel, don't have that stoic thing going on, but I don't...
Met a professional gambler or whatever in Vegas when visiting my parents, and he just talked about his ups and downs and the quality of the bellagio, interesting lifestyle, and I wonder if it gets harder if you got a family to feed, or an interesting study is how many professional gamblers or high rollers are family men...
I think Good Bros would work in Texas, maybe midwest, but not on the coasts...
but I really don't know

lmao good bros was a joke, just kind of like a fantasy and i was hoping people would run with it, which they did

 

[redguru]

 

[musclemom]

Dude when is he gonna lift the bombage, no big deal, but its annoying to have to highlight your shit everytime, and yes we are all that lazy...

When someone whose blacked out posts I just hit Edit > Select All for the page.

RedGuru knows how to filter that stuff out I never paid attention though.

 

[redguru]

When someone whose blacked out posts I just hit Edit > Select All for the page.

RedGuru knows how to filter that stuff out I never paid attention though.

just get the adblock firefox add-on, then filter the specific image file.

 

[redguru]

Also works really well on all those banners people are sporting in their sigs these days.