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I was considering the use of my winny for a winny only cycle but started to think what the heck.

What would you take in a single steriod cycle that would benefit the most overall in strength gains. I'm looking to add stength mainly but alittle size would help as well. What about deca or sustanon. I keep hearing how there very good for what I'm looking for. I'm 5'11" 180. Playing sports (baseball). I'm looking to keep the strength gains after the cycle if possible.

What do you think.
 
I've done Deca only - great strenght and weight gains.
Winstrol only - Strenght gains and siginficant hardness. Not much gain in weight. Only draw back wad join pain towards the end.
Test only - Disapointing the second time around. I hated the added ancilaries, and didn't see the strenght or weight gain expected. But some poeple don't respond well to test for some
reason.

Best cycle was Deca & EQ.
 
Deca-only sucked for me; the gains were good, but I stopped thinking about sex completely. Could get it up, but absolutely no drive.

Additionally, deca-only played an emotional number on me, esp. coming off (there was some conjecture that winny-only can do this too -- notice anything that way genarr?). I run deca with test now and do not have either of those probs. So far, deca + test cycles are my favorite.

I've only done a few single-steroid cycles. The best of which was an oxandrolone-only cycle. 40 mg/day over 3 doses. I imagine a single-ester testosterone-only cycle could be pretty decent. You'd hold water unless you ran ancilliaries though.
 
well since you mentioned sust..
I'd say Profina prop/tren acetate mix
 
It depends on what's important to you.
Mass? Safety? Strength?

If price and availability isn't an issue, you can't beat Primobolin. It's the purest steroid available. But you need more mgs than you would with other substances.

Sus is also a fav, but it has to adjusted correctly and as mentioned, some people don't react well to it.

The best bang for the buck: D-bol.
 
I am on deca only right now for my first cycle, kind of noticed some emotional shit the first 2 weeks, but this is the end of my third and the strength is going through the roof!!! No that much size yet, but I am expecting some weight gain in the next couple of weeks, I will keep u posted.
:D
 
Racer-X99 - from personal experiance doing 150mgs injecting eod alonefor 8 weeks i never had fina dick and was never tired................................i had no noticable side effects (bad ones) so for me i say fina. great gains in strength,hardness and weight
 
genarr3 said:
I've done Deca only - great strenght and weight gains.
Winstrol only - Strenght gains and siginficant hardness. Not much gain in weight. Only draw back wad join pain towards the end.
Test only - Disapointing the second time around. I hated the added ancilaries, and didn't see the strenght or weight gain expected. But some poeple don't respond well to test for some
reason.

Best cycle was Deca & EQ.
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i'm doing deca only but i'm approaching that week 3 deca dick thing....not really too too concerned cause i got viagra and no girl right now
 
2Thick said:


You must be kidding...
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I kid you not, bro. Mg per mg, D-bol wlll produce the most noticable gains. I didnt say it was the "best." -- it's just the most dramatic.

The "bang for the buck" statment was a figure of speech. I guess vet stuff is the best price but I've never touched the stuff. I don't believe you should bargain shop for something so important.
 
Best all around including price and being able to cause results independant of other substances would have to be fina. Simply cannot be beaten, especially if you make your own from pellets. Assuming you filter it properly and your solution is sterile. If price isn't an issue I would say primo or var.
 
if the price wasnt an issue the.......

WINSTROL DEPOT HAND DOWN WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
 
the most effective cycles, i've ever used consisted of either just equipoise or equipoise and winny. Nothing like it.....

400-600mg of EQ per week for 10 weeks, so simple, yet the gains are steady, like 1-2lbs per week, and its solid. just amazing
 
Fina alone gave me outstanding strength gains. There were some weeks where I added as much as 10 pounds to my main lifts.

Side effects were minimal. No loss of libido. Back acne was the only real side effect I experienced.


I did test alone, and my gains weren't all that terriffic. Test is best.....for some people. Everyone is different. Fina is probably my favorite, of the steroids that I have tried so far. Dbol's probably a close second.
 
I didn't realize I would have so many different opinnions. I have tried var with great results but after a month after the last tablet I lost a considerable amount of strength, but it was great while I was on it (never been so strong).

As far as what I'm looking for is strength, pure and simple. Any additional gains in size is ok but not the priority.

Tell me about sustanon and deca. From what I've learned both seems to be Ok. Few sides and gets strength quick 1 to 2 weeks. Will the strength stay though.
 
manny78 said:


4- Deca, only if you're smart enough to use it....
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can you elaborate on that?

i would say that depending on your goals the single steroid would differ but i would probably chose test if i could only have one roid forever
 
Judo Tom said:


can you elaborate on that?

i would say that depending on your goals the single steroid would differ but i would probably chose test if i could only have one roid forever
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Deca alone isn't that bad. Just that some people dont know how to use it. And I'm refering to the tapper down method, which is a must if using that stuff alone. Otherwise you're just asking for a limp dick...
 
Manny -

I am EXTREMELY interested in the details of your ideas on Deca use.

I plan to do 6 weeks of 400mg IM deca followed by 6 weeks of 25mg ed Var... What were you refering to in terms of tapering down and would that apply with my cycle? What else would you recommend to avoide any sides - especially deca dick? I am running Dostinex with it to avoid gyno and the such...
 
jh1 said:
Manny -

I am EXTREMELY interested in the details of your ideas on Deca use.

I plan to do 6 weeks of 400mg IM deca followed by 6 weeks of 25mg ed Var... What were you refering to in terms of tapering down and would that apply with my cycle? What else would you recommend to avoide any sides - especially deca dick? I am running Dostinex with it to avoid gyno and the such...
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Then I would do something like 400 mg for the first 5-6 weeks and then slowly go down to 100 mg in the last 2-3 weeks. To avoid deca dick ? Proviron works. Clomids at the end (3 weeks after your last injection).
 
Deca is such a long-acting ester that it is self-tapering. Pyramiding down just delays recovery. Deca-dick seems to originate for most people while on cycle, not post cycle, so tapering down at the end of the cycle would have no effect for those that get it. Add any androgen to keep deca dick at bay (if it is an issue, I've never had the problem, just loss of sex drive while on deca only [androgen stacking will also negate this]).
 
Themachine:

How much deca did you use weekly? What Androgen do you suggest as a stack to avoid Deca-Dick?
 
jh1 said:
Themachine:

How much deca did you use weekly? What Androgen do you suggest as a stack to avoid Deca-Dick?
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As I said, deca dick has never been a problem for me. I tend to use deca in the low to mid-range, never much more than 440 mg/wk. Over 600 mg/wk seems to be a game of diminishing returns for most from what I've seen. Anywhere from 300 - 400 mg/wk will be fine for most.

Loss of sex drive has occured with me on deca only; adding a more androgenic compound will offset this.

As manny mentioned, proviron is fine (anecdotally, I've never used); I like test with deca.
 
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