Shrugs with shoulders or with back?

[JKurz1]

Traps = Delt day.............for me anyways.........sometimes with back I'll tos in a few light sets of shrugs, but that's it............

Oh and this is the most abused muscle by newbies (or even many advanced)...........Here's a golden rule.......If you can't squat the weight you are using for shrugs for solid ATF reps, then your ass definetly shouldnt be shruggn it.....think about how large the quads and hams are compared to the traps.....follow me?

 

[BSBootz]

Traps = Delt day...............same here. After deadlifts on back day, they are usually shot to shit.

 

[JKurz1]

WHY DON'T you guys post your delt routine on the threads.....hey, I'll even bump it for ya.........

 

[cwick0]

jkurz1,
I agree with the squat/shrug statement whole heartedly!

we had a thread like this last week. I looked for the darn thing, but couldnt find it. That sucks because i already wrote it out. Anyways here is my shoulder routine:

1. seated military press - 3 sets of 10 (225) or go till i can no longer get a set of 10 (275)
2. seated lateral raises - 4 sets - 2 sets (same weight 20 or 25) - singles then doubles
- 2 sets (25 or 30) - singles then doubles
3. seated rear raises - 4 sets - 2 sets (same weight 20 or 25) - singles then doubles
- 2 sets (25 or 30) - singles then doubles
4. (sometimes, not very often)
seated front raises - 4 sets - 2 sets (same weight 25 or 30) - singles then doubles
- 2 sets (30 or 35) - singles then doubles
5. upright rows - 3 or 4 sets of 10 (bar + 25s, 25s+10s, 45s, sometimes 45s+10s)
6. shrugs - wide grip - 3 or 4 sets of 10 (225, 315, 405)
7. shrugs - close grip - 2 sets of 10 at 225

corey

 

[The_Ghost]

I do them on shoulder day.

lateral raises 4 sets, last 2 drop sets
1 x 10 30lbs
1 x 10 40lbs
1 x 10 50lbs, 40, 30
1 x 8 50 lbs, 40, 30

single lat raise
2 x 10 45lbs

Dumbell press
1 x 10 55lbs
1 x 10 85lbs
1 x 8 110lbs

Military press
1x 8 215
1x 8 225
1x 6-8 225

Bent over raise
1 x 8 55lbs
1 x 8 60lbs
1 x 8 60lbs

Barbell shrugs 4 sets 2 bar in front, 2 bar in back
1 x 10 225 front
1 x 8 315 behind
1 x 8 385 front
1 x 8 385 behind

Dumbell shrug seated
1x 8 135lbs
1x 8 135lbs
1x 8 135lbs

 

[big4life]

I work my traps with shoulders. I am too tired after my back workout to go heavy on shrugs.

My shouder and trap routine goes like this, most of the time.

1) military press- 4x10
2) rear delt raises- 3x8
3) hammer strength bhind neck press- 2x10
4) lateral raises- 3x8
5) front raises - 3x8

1) db shrugs 3x10-12
2) bb shrugs- 4x8-10 in front, 2x8-10 in back

Once a month I will run the rack on db shrugs.