Shoulder Injury...CAN HGH help? K..to all

[truckdaddy]

Got a friend, he has sperated his shoulder. He is wanting to know if HGH can help him heal up faster...he is 38 years old.

If so, how much and how long should he run it.

I run 2ius ed just for health reasons....I would assume he need more.

 

[eddymerckx]

I read an article about that sort of treatment---but it is not widespread from what i can tell

http://www.iagh.com/
Intraarticular injection of human growth hormone (HGH). HGH is injected into the joint every one to two weeks. This stimulates bone cells to change into cartilage producing chondrocytes by a process called "morphoangiogenesis".Morpho-angiogenesis is a unique benign action of growth hormone discovered by Dr. Dunn. He lectured on his discovery at Harvard University Medical School October 4, 2001. The IAGH method works because it utilizes this unique action of growth hormone. This action is a special growth hormone dependent form of angiogenesis which leads to articular cartilage regeneration. Regular angiogenesis is a benign process in which new blood vessels (tubes) develop and help produce new tissue. It occurs, for instance, after your skin is cut. In regular angiogenesis new tubes (new vessels) develop from existing tubes (blood vessels). Morpho-angiogenesis is different because it forms structures not tubes. These new structures have one special function - which is to produce stem cells followed by production of new cartilage cells. Because their anatomical structure or morphology of the vessels has changed, they process a special name, Morpho-angiogenesis. These new structures are similar to the structures which produce cartilage in the fetus and newborn child.
Therefore the process of morpho-angiogenesis causes rejuvenation of adult blood vessels to form fetal blood vessels.

 

[truckdaddy]

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[Big BX]

I don't believe 2IU's will help heal. I think a minimum of 5IU's is needed for anything. IMO, 2 IU's will do nothing. That's 1IU in morning and 1 IU at night. Nobody really gets any results on 2IU's of GH. Most who take that amount are taking AAS. Take 2IU's with a cycle and without and tell me the difference, you won't be able to tell.

 

[the_alcatraz]

HGH is known to stimulate not only growth, but also cell reproduction. It causes "hyperplasia" which means the recruitment and development of new muscle fibers. That could help hsi shoulder heal faster, and if he takes some glucosamine sulfate, shark cartilage, it will help him heal big time. He will have to cycle the HGH over a long period of time for it to be really effective, i'm thinking around 6 months - thats a lotta money btw.

 

[tdidd42]

deca

 

[truckdaddy]

I don't believe 2IU's will help heal. I think a minimum of 5IU's is needed for anything. IMO, 2 IU's will do nothing. That's 1IU in morning and 1 IU at night. Nobody really gets any results on 2IU's of GH. Most who take that amount are taking AAS. Take 2IU's with a cycle and without and tell me the difference, you won't be able to tell.

I take 2ius ed, for general musckle recovery.....I wasnt recomending hi to do that dose....5ius for how long?

 

[mrribbit]

Hey just to help. I'm 30 yrs old and have had a grade 3 right shoulder separation for a few years now. Damn car accident. Anyway, the only thing that had ever helped in the beginning was good ole advil. Maybe a few percs in between but be careful as you can get VERY addicted to them. So I played around with advice from a sports/orthopaedic surgeon and he originally told me to take a very low dose of deca (ie - 100mg wk). Honestly that barely helped so he kept jacking the dose till it was at a nice reasonable theraputic level. That level was 200mg wk. That along with ultrasound whenever you can get it, is amazing. I'm happy to say now that I'm def lifting more than ever in my life. If you have any other questions about juice after injury let me know. I've also had my neck broken twice and many other injuries. And NO I'm not a stuntman. lol

 

[Shoes82]

Hey just to help. I'm 30 yrs old and have had a grade 3 right shoulder separation for a few years now. Damn car accident. Anyway, the only thing that had ever helped in the beginning was good ole advil. Maybe a few percs in between but be careful as you can get VERY addicted to them. So I played around with advice from a sports/orthopaedic surgeon and he originally told me to take a very low dose of deca (ie - 100mg wk). Honestly that barely helped so he kept jacking the dose till it was at a nice reasonable theraputic level. That level was 200mg wk. That along with ultrasound whenever you can get it, is amazing. I'm happy to say now that I'm def lifting more than ever in my life. If you have any other questions about juice after injury let me know. I've also had my neck broken twice and many other injuries. And NO I'm not a stuntman. lol

Since you offered...

I suffered a grade 2 shoulder separation 6 weeks ago. Mine hurt like a sonova bitch so I can't imagine what grade three or higher feels like.
Anyway, not working out is driving me insane. I work at a gym and today I was showing someone how to use something and I can still only barely put any weight on the shoulder. I've got some deca but I was wanting to wait until I was back in pretty good shape before I took it, which means probably another 8-12 weeks, depending on when I can lift again.

Basically, I know that deca helps in these situations, but I don't want to start it only to find out that I still can't lift and I've wasted an entire cycle. I have full range of motion now, just not the ability to lift in certain positions. Should I start the (mild) cycle now or wait until the shoulder is 95%? How long after your injury did you start lifting again?

Thanks in advance.

 

[SpyWizard]

yep, it will help, but an anavar/test cycle would be even better, or in connection with the 6 month cycle of gh..

and since he is soooooooooo old.. hahah.. deca would help him greatly.. but that is only in the case where he was desperate.