Shoulder exercises

[anthrax]

How do you rate/sort the shoulders' movements?

I'm doing mostly overhead/military press but for variety and health (avoid muscle imbalance) I'd like to pick up at least another exercise

So, IMO, from best to useless:

Push Press
Standing Overhead/military press
Seated Overhead/military press
Lateral Raise (DB then cable)
Barbell Rear Delt Row (rear delt)
Front Raise (DB then cable)
other machine exercises

 

[blut wump]

There's reasonably-steep inclines too which I'd place up either at second or joint first.

I keep meaning to give push press a decent run for my money but never seem to get around to it.

Front raise works well also with a barbell as with a DB but I'd rate it about the same as you have.

 

[BOOEY]

Upright Rows, but I'd start off light to see if your body is ok with it. I know a lot of people complain that it hurts their shoulders, never bothered mine which is why I continue to do them.

 

[blut wump]

Upright rows are ok (and salaam I like 'em) but try instead the hang pull.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/HangPull.html

 

[eat big]

Arnold Presses work well too.

 

[cwc73]

Do arnolds only hit the front delt? Or the side and rear as well?

 

[AEKDB]

My shoulders have gained significant size since I started doing clean and presses at least twice a week.

 

[KillahBee]

I threw in bent over rear delt cable extensions the other day. Felt really good.

 

[cwc73]

Does anyone do the reverse butterfly machine for the rear delts? I just starting doing them a couple of weeks ago at light weight to introduce them and get used to them.

 

[BOOEY]

Does anyone do the reverse butterfly machine for the rear delts? I just starting doing them a couple of weeks ago at light weight to introduce them and get used to them.

I want to do those badly but my gym doesn't have that machine. Have to settle for bent over laterals w/ db's

 

[cwc73]

I want to do those badly but my gym doesn't have that machine. Have to settle for bent over laterals w/ db's

Ok, here's a suggestion I'm sure you have probably thought of but maybe others havent. If your gym doesn't have this type of machine, the Cable Pully Crossover MAchine can be used just as well. I used to do them on that machine, but in my gym I kept getting extremely pissed when people would use the inside of them for tricep presses or pullups when standing right next to it was a tricep push down machine and a Pull up machine. Man, I hated that.

 

[BOOEY]

Ok, here's a suggestion I'm sure you have probably thought of but maybe others havent. If your gym doesn't have this type of machine, the Cable Pully Crossover MAchine can be used just as well. I used to do them on that machine, but in my gym I kept getting extremely pissed when people would use the inside of them for tricep presses or pullups when standing right next to it was a tricep push down machine and a Pull up machine. Man, I hated that.

Good idea. So you set the pulleys in line with your shoulders?

 

[Sub-Zero]

I want to do those badly but my gym doesn't have that machine. Have to settle for bent over laterals w/ db's

why u need a machine to do it?

u could always lie belly down on a bench and grab em and do it that way, i personally do em bent over barbell row style except i do the reverse fly motion at the end of my back day for the reardelts

 

[BOOEY]

why u need a machine to do it?

u could always lie belly down on a bench and grab em and do it that way, i personally do em bent over barbell row style except i do the reverse fly motion at the end of my back day for the reardelts

Yeah I do em bent over, but it gets to be unstable when using heavier weights. Standing upright against padding would seem to allow stability plus a full range of motion

 

[Sub-Zero]

Yeah I do em bent over, but it gets to be unstable when using heavier weights. Standing upright against padding would seem to allow stability plus a full range of motion

lying belly down on a bench is the same rom as the fly machine

 

[Quadsweeps Sister]

Front plate raises and face pulls.

Plate Raise: Stand straight on gripping plate (45lb) on each side. Raise and lower from bottom position to just in front of head. My partner puts a couple plates together. Our gym has the plates with holes so he can do this.

Face Pulls: We use a pull down strap connected to the upper pulley of a lat pull-down. Stand back far enough so weights do not set down when arms are extended. Pull straps from fully-extended arm position to back where straps pull apart on either side of the face - elbows out to side. Try to pull shoulder blades together in back.

What about seated DB press giant sets?? (When gym is kinda empty) grab 4 sets of DB - low to high weight...(For me - 15, 25, 30, 40.) Start set 1 going heavy to light - 40/6r, 30/8r, 25/10r, 15/12r. Next set start light to heavy. You get the idea. Do this for 4 sets. That about does it for that day - shoulders roasted.

Barbell front raise and DB side lateral supersets are always fun and taxing on the cardio-V system.
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[musketeer]

Front plate raises and face pulls.

Plate Raise: Stand straight on gripping plate (45lb) on each side. Raise and lower from bottom position to just in front of head. My partner puts a couple plates together. Our gym has the plates with holes so he can do this.

Face Pulls: We use a pull down strap connected to the upper pulley of a lat pull-down. Stand back far enough so weights do not set down when arms are extended. Pull straps from fully-extended arm position to back where straps pull apart on either side of the face - elbows out to side. Try to pull shoulder blades together in back.

What about seated DB press giant sets?? (When gym is kinda empty) grab 4 sets of DB - low to high weight...(For me - 15, 25, 30, 40.) Start set 1 going heavy to light - 40/6r, 30/8r, 25/10r, 15/12r. Next set start light to heavy. You get the idea. Do this for 4 sets. That about does it for that day - shoulders roasted.

Barbell front raise and DB side lateral supersets are always fun and taxing on the cardio-V system.
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Mythicwrld

"We deceive ourselves when we fancy that only weakness needs support. Strength needs it far more."

I dont like these fancy workouts anymore! Today this was what I did:

Push Press: 5 x warmup sets then:

220lbs x 10 reps
232lbs x 6 reps (easy - will do this for first work set for a bout 8 next time!)
165lbs x 21 reps

Seated Cheat Laterals: 3 x "feel sets"

66lbs x 11 pres + 2 half reps

Workout over - The End!

Right now my traps, tris and delts are devastated! (adjust the weights accordingly if you are a beast or babe!

 

[Quadsweeps Sister]

Yeah...I don't do a bunch for shoulders anymore since powerlifting. Just some thoughts and examples for those sadistic types who enjoy the pain and torture of the never-ending shoulder workout. Hence, the fancy supersets. After BB shoulder workouts x 7yrs, mine were 'done'.

I love powerlifting.