Short Cycles vs. Long Cycles?

[SAEBigSal]

I have been doing research on shorter duration of cycles and also shorter duration between cycles. I typically run cycles for 8 to 12 weeks, then 2 to 4 weeks PCT, and 16 to 20 weeks Off Cycle between. This has always worked well for me, but the long durations of off cycle time leave me flat and it is more obvious when I get back on. I don't do big bulking cycles, but even mild cycles really blow me up after the time off. So my question is: what does everyone think about running short 4 to 6 week cycles with, 2 weeks PCT, and only 8 to 12 weeks off? I think this will reduce the side effects (gyno, acne, and test shut down) to a minimum, and also keep me from looking like I am blowing up and flatening out. (Don't want people at work and in my family noticing the constant fluctuation in size)

Thoughts?

 

[wolfman87]

i think that they definitely have their place. obviously you would need a short ester like prop, suspension, etc... combined with a decent oral and dose i think you could achieve what you're after as long as it's reasonable. if you're going to be running the same doses don't expect anything drastic... and if you decide to up the doses it would seem like the sides that you don't want would come anyway. idk it's worth a shot to see how your body reacts to a couple of them...

 

[Nelson Montana]

20 years ago, 6 weeks was considered a standard cycle. I've seen results in 2 weeks though most would say that's not possible. But they don't know what I know.

 

[Wulfgar]

done right people should be seeing and feeling results within days...not weeks

 

[cjangelo]

20 years ago, 6 weeks was considered a standard cycle. I've seen results in 2 weeks though most would say that's not possible. But they don't know what I know.

So what, short ester test, 500-700mg a week, for two weeks?
How would you schedule your AI or PCT or whatever?



I remember you talking about this before, and I thought it was interesting, especially as an AAS virgin, as a way of getting my feet wet. Or my cherry popped, if you want metaphorical continuity.

thanks

 

[Peanutz26]

Go for the short cycles. Much safer and recovery is easier. Im done with the long ones.

 

[Nelson Montana]

So what, short ester test, 500-700mg a week, for two weeks?
How would you schedule your AI or PCT or whatever?



I remember you talking about this before, and I thought it was interesting, especially as an AAS virgin, as a way of getting my feet wet. Or my cherry popped, if you want metaphorical continuity.

thanks

2 weeks is TOO short. That was Bill Roberts moronic theory based on my findings . He suggested 2 on, 2off, which would be a disaster.

A 4 week cycle is fine for a maiden voyage.

Use an oral up front as a kick start. For the millionth time, short acting esters are no faster, only shorter. Steroids DO NOT take weeks to kick in. They are active immediately.

 

[niightz]

I do 6 week cycles taking prop/npp eod, for a total of around 300mg/300mg a week. I normally gain about 10 lbs keep 6-7 after pct and off time. My pct is 4 weeks and 6 weeks off, so far I love this, but def going to add some d-bol on the next cycles.

 

[C.K.]

I've been doing 2 months on 1 month off...

 

[daveyboy2345]

starting in Nov. or Dec. I will experiment with 6-7 week cycles and hope to stick with them permanently if all goes well. Prop, dbol, winny, will take care of me just fine. I'm tired of the long recovery and long time off inbetween cycles. Not to mention the thought of making gains and training balls to the wall for 10-14 weeks consecutively is mentally and physically draining.