Sdrol rebound gyno

[robbysixx]

I'm on trt and Just finished a sdrol @ 20mg up to 30 mg for 3 weeks ,,, ran 750mg test e pw... After I was done I got rebound gyno , mainly just puffy nipples , don't feel a lump as of yet .. Feel great , no signs of high or low estro ...just wondering how any of you's would go about the puffy nipple situation ?

 

[Saiyan7]

You were running an AI I assume? How long ago did your cycle stop?

 

[robbysixx]

Thanks for the reply .. Yeah saiyan your dead on! I ran nolva on top , 20mg pd, and 0.5 Adex ed 5 days as I was told to do by new source; which I thought was strange (got paranoid it was dbol) always had puffy nipples and got to the point I was going to try anything before going the surgery route though ! So yeah I bottomed estro .. I stopped roughly about 10-12 days ago

 

[robbysixx]

Since then: gram of test , nolva 20mg and Adex at 0.5 pd

 

[ALIN]

I'm on trt and Just finished a sdrol @ 20mg up to 30 mg for 3 weeks ,,, ran 750mg test e pw... After I was done I got rebound gyno , mainly just puffy nipples , don't feel a lump as of yet .. Feel great , no signs of high or low estro ...just wondering how any of you's would go about the puffy nipple situation ?

I would use a SERM such as NOLVDEX until your symptoms reside.

 

[robbysixx]

@20mg still? Or 40?Thnx saiyan7

 

[robbysixx]

And also I only did the sdrol for 2 weeks (still great results) but had to stop due to sides an lethargy being too much for me too handle .., since then I've detoxed my liver and flushed my system .. Would it hurt to do another 2 week cycle of sdrol in a week or so ? This time at 10mg pd up to 20mg and also running Tudca and taurine etc etc ? I'm a bit pissed I took ai on cycle I think it screwed with me

 

[bigorse]

well your estrogenic issue on cycle will come from the high test dose. superdrol is a DHT and will lower both shbg and estrogen. try dropping test back to hrt the do a low dose superdrol cycle w/out and ani and a low dose of nolva post cycle to combat rebound.

i used sdrol and had great results. also crashed my shbg so my free test sky rocketed!

 

[robbysixx]

Thanks Bigorse ! Very helpful , sounds like a good plan .... So would you skip today's pin , pin next Monday at lower dose and run with 10mg sdrol ? Thanks again

 

[bigorse]

yes of you are worried about gyno i would lower your test dose and run superdrol only for a few weeks.

otherwise up your AI dose and make sure your AI is legit and use a SERM as others have said until gyno is gone.

 

[robbysixx]

Yep all pharma , no gyno , just puffy nipples ... Just being safe than sorry ... Also I've just started clen yesterday ready for cut, is there any problems with running clen with sdrol out of curiousity ... Now that I have got this info from you guys I am keen to jump on sdrol again .. Was thinking the clen would burn the fat and the sdrol would harden me up and remove the bloat from the rebound .. Thanks again mate

 

[bigorse]

Yep all pharma , no gyno , just puffy nipples ... Just being safe than sorry ... Also I've just started clen yesterday ready for cut, is there any problems with running clen with sdrol out of curiousity ... Now that I have got this info from you guys I am keen to jump on sdrol again .. Was thinking the clen would burn the fat and the sdrol would harden me up and remove the bloat from the rebound .. Thanks again mate

no issues. you could even run a higher AI dose or use letro as well. will kill our estrogen and dry you out at the end of the run if cutting is your goal. sdrol i only bloated on if my diet was shit so it can defs be used as either a dry or a wet oral

 

[robbysixx]

Thanks mate , I will use clen and sdrol together and see how that goes then .. What is your macros while on sdrol ? I heard you definetly need higher carbs to fight lethargy - but again this may be wrong , I'm not sure ... This is my first time using sdrol

 

[robbysixx]

Also I think I will get on sdrol 10mg today , and use that to fight the puffy nipple situation .. And save the nolva until after the 3 week sdrol run

 

[bigorse]

macros range for me. i waa bulking on it so i wasnt concerned by bloat but it was more the shit food rather than macros that bloated me. i do find high fat and protein with moderte carbs best for combating bloat for me personally though

 

[robbysixx]

Ahok mate , fair enough .. Just making sure clen + sdrol isn't overkill?? Won't be too much on heart will it ? Will be running clen at 140mcg max and sdrol 20mg max

 

[bigorse]

Ahok mate , fair enough .. Just making sure clen + sdrol isn't overkill?? Won't be too much on heart will it ? Will be running clen at 140mcg max and sdrol 20mg max

nah, far harsher combos out there. keeps an eye on bloods etc. and youll be fine

 

[robbysixx]

Your a legend Bigorse , Thanks for the help

 

[bigorse]

not a worry, i enjoy helping others around here and you guys all return the favour when i need help

 

[bigorse]

hey mate, clear you inbox. i cant reply because its full!
answer is i turned 17 a few weeks ago! long storg I'll PM you the rest

 

[robbysixx]

Hey man all cleared , puffy nipples again , tried nolva and Adex , and they still won't go ... Anyone have any insight ? Does sdrol convert to prog or prolactin on rebound ???

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Why were u running arimidex every 5 days??? The half life is 48-51 hours.... Your nips are sensitive because your estrogen is clearly elevated because your levels are all over the place....You should be running arimidex eod at .5mg....

Also even though nolvadex does help as an AI in certain parts of the body, it acts against the body in other parts by actually increasing estrogen levels.... I would only use nolvadex in my pct... Not while on cycle...

 

[robbysixx]

Was only running Adex e5d because I was paranoid the sdrol was dbol .. Atleast after week 3 id know for sure .. But it was sdrol so I shouldn't have ran any ai as sdrol acts as one .. Is that right ?? And as for nolva it's just something an old pro taught me so I stuck by it

 

[robbysixx]

What do you suggest johnny boy ?? Did you run an ai with sdrol ? I'm getting on suss on sdrol, reading heaps of messed up shit on it , would stana and clen be a better option ?

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Superdrol doesn't act like an AI..... And if your superdrol was dbol, you would need the AI.... As an increase in estrogen is for sure... Just because a steroid doesn't aromatize, doesn't mean it has AI properties.....

It's the test that is causing you problems... That's it, you need to increase your arimidex dose regardless because of you are sensitive, it will fix this.... .5mg Ed until the problem is done, then .5mg eod....

How long are you running superdrol??? It's pretty hepatoxic from my readings, should be cycling orals 4-6 weeks...

 

[bigorse]

sdrol is definitely not an AI but it shouldn't be what is causing the estrogen issues. the estro issues will likely be from the 750mg of test.
hepatoxicity is very real with sdrol, last week of a 4 week kicker at 20mg of sdrol and 20mg of methylsten really made me letharhic and killled appetite though bloods showed my liver wasnt too out of wack.

 

[robbysixx]

Thanks for help , but I'm not understanding this rebound then .. So while on the sdrol nips were fine ,, then when I stop , they puff up ? I don't get why I thought that would mean my estro is low then after sdrol it sky rocketed up ?

 

[bigorse]

it is likely just estrogen has built up over time from the test and it is simply a coincidence that your estrogen was high when you stopped sdrol

 

[robbysixx]

Ahokk or the sdrol freeing up that test even more ?? What's the best amount of test to run with sdrol? And what to use to combat fatigue ???

 

[robbysixx]

I'm getting bloods taken in 2 days , will know for sure then

 

[bigorse]

Ahokk or the sdrol freeing up that test even more ?? What's the best amount of test to run with sdrol? And what to use to combat fatigue ???

dose is individual, you need to experiment there but lower test will mean less aromataisation but probably less results too.

lethargy can be helped by good water intake, making sure you are getting in a nutritious diet and taking liver care to tey prevent the raise in liver enzymes from sdrol

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

 

[robbysixx]

Haha yeh sounds good to me , will report back in about 2 weeks also running 20mg dbol and clen too ... Feeling great at the moment