In Vegas there's 5 Gold's Gyms. All owned by the same person. 3 are what I call Foo Foo gyms (nice carpeting, color coordinated, hot pussy - also color coordinated), one's quiet (where Jay usually trains, Carrot Top is usually there now too) and one hardcore - Monolift for powerlifters, bumper plates for olympic lifters, beat up heavy racks, cages, benches, jack stands, the only straight bars are privately owned and chained up, if you hate duct tape it's not the place to be. That's where the post Olympia seminars and photo shoots have taken place for the last 8 years or so. Jay every once in awhile will show up at the hardcore Golds, and every once in awhile I'll go to the quiet Golds. I really can't see how Cutler can maintain such mass at such a quiet gym - I get sleepy walking through the door. What kind of gym has lids on their trash cans - how are you going to puke or spit in that? Don't even think about hocking one up on the floor! It seems to work for him though.