[sarms1] gw-50 [log]

[eddymerckx]

Okay, here is a log of what happens when a 47 y/o athlete (cycling sprinter)--1 more good finish away from sponsorship (free $10k bike - local races/no testing & pseudonym) gets heat stroke, breaks an ankle, and does not work out for over a year and becomes a fat body-----goes back to work with proper diet, workout, and GW-50 gets back into shape. I don't expect miracles as I am not 25 anymore but let's see what happens.

Oh, and yes, I will not even have pictures taken of me with my little girls b/c I get sick looking my fat self.

@5/30/2012
Age: 45.5
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 198
BF: 13% (water tested)
Resting HR: 45
BP: low normal
RBC Count: 54
Test: 1422
Days cycling/week: 6
Miles: 475-600
40k Time Trial: 54:56
Flat Bench: 325
Squat: 440
DL: 305 (fused disks)

7/1/2012: Heat Stroke;
3/7/2013: broken ankle playing ultimate

@10/29/2013
Age: 47
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 238
BF: not tested yet but guess >23%
Resting HR: 77
BP: on meds to lower.
RBC Count: 51 (I live at 6100 feet)
Test: 292
Days cycling/cardio/week: 0
Miles: 0
Flat Bench: 225
Squat: 300
DL: not doing any


Cycle: Sustenon 250 every 3.5 days to bring test up to about 1500-1700 (I have this dialed in over the years); adex on hand but my E tends not to spike that much.

Supplement: SARMS 1 GW-501516 (just ordered will post ship time)

 

[semper03]

Okay, here is a log of what happens when a 47 y/o athlete (cycling sprinter)--1 more good finish away from sponsorship (free $10k bike - local races/no testing & pseudonym) gets heat stroke, breaks an ankle, and does not work out for over a year and becomes a fat body-----goes back to work with proper diet, workout, and GW-50 gets back into shape. I don't expect miracles as I am not 25 anymore but let's see what happens.

Oh, and yes, I will not even have pictures taken of me with my little girls b/c I get sick looking my fat self.

@5/30/2012
Age: 45.5
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 198
BF: 13% (water tested)
Resting HR: 45
BP: low normal
RBC Count: 54
Test: 1422
Days cycling/week: 6
Miles: 475-600
40k Time Trial: 54:56
Flat Bench: 325
Squat: 440
DL: 305 (fused disks)

7/1/2012: Heat Stroke;
3/7/2013: broken ankle playing ultimate

@10/29/2013
Age: 47
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 238
BF: not tested yet but guess >23%
Resting HR: 77
BP: on meds to lower.
RBC Count: 51 (I live at 6100 feet)
Test: 292
Days cycling/cardio/week: 0
Miles: 0
Flat Bench: 225
Squat: 300
DL: not doing any


Cycle: Sustenon 250 every 3.5 days to bring test up to about 1500-1700 (I have this dialed in over the years); adex on hand but my E tends not to spike that much.

Supplement: SARMS GW-50 (just ordered will post ship time)

That's some high BF to be cycling bro.

Interested to see how you look at the end though. Subbed.

 

[eddymerckx]

Re: [sarms] gw-50 [log]

That's some high BF to be cycling bro.

Interested to see how you look at the end though. Subbed.

cycling b/c at 47 i can't recover to train the way I have for 30 years with my natty test so low. But, let's see what happens. My only issue is left mitral valve issues if I do a lot of cardiac on gear--but so far so good (ecg done last week) and as long as I stick with y power lifting routine I should be okay.

But again, great experiment and the sarms willl make or break it as long as diet is in check.

 

[travishibachi]

Re: [sarms] gw-50 [log]

Good luck, sir. Anything is possible with hard work and dedication. I broke my femur at 17 and have made a lot of progress since then. I'm going to be doing a cycle of MK in the next week if you would like to follow my log. I'm excited to see what this sarm can do. And from what I've read GW will take your cardio to a whole new level.

 

[dylangemelli]

You know I will be following and advising along the way bro... Anything you need for tips or advice on gw, you know i am always here to help... I really want to get you back on the right path as I know you have always been in excellent condition... I have no doubt you will pick up where you left off and GW is going to help you tremendously to achieve your goals...

 

[hurricane]

Im in for the ride also eddie!Anyway i can help let me know.Besides the bf% loss aid of gw.You should see it help your workouts and added cardio ability, right away!

best of luck

 

[Jbranken]

Can't imagine this happening to me. I feel for you and wish you the best! Hopefully this gets you on the right track

 

[RickRock13]

I'm in to follow buddy. Hopefully this will help to get you back closer to where you once was

 

[elite7777]

Hey Eddy, we share the same sport, and I have read many of your older posts on EF. Welcome back, I was wondering if you would ever post up again. You will love GW, it's the ish and is awesome for cyclists I am looking forward to your results.

 

[eddymerckx]

Thanks everyone--I have never been in this kind of shape before (all my fault) and doing this is the motivation I need!!

 

[hurricane]

Thanks everyone--I have never been in this kind of shape before (all my fault) and doing this is the motivation I need!!

you will be fine bro. We are all here to crack the whip on you, when needed!

 

[pdelta]

Has anyone taken note of the effect of GW on BP? Micardis, a product very similar to GW, is used for BP control. It therefore it stands to reason that GW would also tend to lower BP.

 

[dylangemelli]

Has anyone taken note of the effect of GW on BP? Micardis, a product very similar to GW, is used for BP control. It therefore it stands to reason that GW would also tend to lower BP.

my bp tends to be excellent year round... the only time it gets a little elevated is when im running high dosed steroid orals but it is absolutely perfect when im on gw... its exactly as it should be with it and it would also make sense seeing as how it enhances endurance, allowing for more optimal cardiovascular health which would obviously improve bp... just another benefit...

 

[RickRock13]

Has anyone taken note of the effect of GW on BP? Micardis, a product very similar to GW, is used for BP control. It therefore it stands to reason that GW would also tend to lower BP.

Oh yeh for sure. On GW my BP is always on the low side. I just got my BP checked yesterday and I'm on GW right now at 20,mg ED. My blood pressure was 110/60

 

[eddymerckx]

I will keep track of my bp--I suspect I will go off the meds when I drop some fat but b/c I have a log of all recordings I can track it we can see what is what. The med has 5 mg of hydrochlorothiazide which is a pretty strong diuretic so I will want off of that asap anyway.

 

[travishibachi]

I will keep track of my bp--I suspect I will go off the meds when I drop some fat but b/c I have a log of all recordings I can track it we can see what is what. The med has 5 mg of hydrochlorothiazide which is a pretty strong diuretic so I will want off of that asap anyway.

Diuretics are for the birds. Caffeine is a diuretic and most of these preworkout supps are wayyyyy over-stimmed. Ends up with me scheduling appointments with the porcelain gods.

 

[eddymerckx]

Diuretics are for the birds. Caffeine is a diuretic and most of these preworkout supps are wayyyyy over-stimmed. Ends up with me scheduling appointments with the porcelain gods.

they do work for high blood pressure--most of the big pharma companies are taking expiring patents of a high blood pressure med and mixing it with a diuretic, and getting a new patent (or trying) The only preworkout supp I take is atomic tabs--a nice smooth pep.

 

[eddymerckx]

you will be fine bro. We are all here to crack the whip on you, when needed!

I may need it bro!!!

 

[ledhead]

Okay, here is a log of what happens when a 47 y/o athlete (cycling sprinter)--1 more good finish away from sponsorship (free $10k bike - local races/no testing & pseudonym) gets heat stroke, breaks an ankle, and does not work out for over a year and becomes a fat body-----goes back to work with proper diet, workout, and GW-50 gets back into shape. I don't expect miracles as I am not 25 anymore but let's see what happens.

Oh, and yes, I will not even have pictures taken of me with my little girls b/c I get sick looking my fat self.

@5/30/2012
Age: 45.5
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 198
BF: 13% (water tested)
Resting HR: 45
BP: low normal
RBC Count: 54
Test: 1422
Days cycling/week: 6
Miles: 475-600
40k Time Trial: 54:56
Flat Bench: 325
Squat: 440
DL: 305 (fused disks)

7/1/2012: Heat Stroke;
3/7/2013: broken ankle playing ultimate

@10/29/2013
Age: 47
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 238
BF: not tested yet but guess >23%
Resting HR: 77
BP: on meds to lower.
RBC Count: 51 (I live at 6100 feet)
Test: 292
Days cycling/cardio/week: 0
Miles: 0
Flat Bench: 225
Squat: 300
DL: not doing any


Cycle: Sustenon 250 every 3.5 days to bring test up to about 1500-1700 (I have this dialed in over the years); adex on hand but my E tends not to spike that much.

Supplement: SARMS 1 GW-501516 (just ordered will post ship time)

What a drag it is getting old! I'm down with this thread. I'm interested in knowing if Sarms works or not on us older folks. I'm quite sure you will give us a fair analysis. Good Luck!

Oh, by-the-way, I did receive your PM, but I could not respond back for some reason. It said, I was blocked from PMing you..

 

[ceo]

I'll be following this closely as well!

 

[travishibachi]

they do work for high blood pressure--most of the big pharma companies are taking expiring patents of a high blood pressure med and mixing it with a diuretic, and getting a new patent (or trying) The only preworkout supp I take is atomic tabs--a nice smooth pep.

Natural diuretics like celery are more suitable for me personally. Drinking celery juice for 3 weeks can knock 10 points off both your systolic and diastolic numbers and it also has natural sodium so it's good for electrolyte balance. I've honestly become a big proponent of juicing it's so convenient to get all my vitamins in one 16 oz glass.

 

[hurricane]

Natural diuretics like celery are more suitable for me personally. Drinking celery juice for 3 weeks can knock 10 points off both your systolic and diastolic numbers and it also has natural sodium so it's good for electrolyte balance. I've honestly become a big proponent of juicing it's so convenient to get all my vitamins in one 16 oz glass.

juicing is amazing! more people should look into this.It will change the way you look at health problems.

 

[dylangemelli]

I was just telling ledhead today that ive been drinking wheatgrass for the last few weeks and i cant remember feeling this good in a very long time... Its truly amazing... My fiance drinks those green juice drinks everyday and she looks like shes 20 years old and shes 35... Its really something i highly recommend

 

[travishibachi]

If people with cancer can start juicing, beat cancer and resolve all of their health ailments or conditions at the same time and continue leading a healthy life even in the midst of the aging process then it would appear that virtually almost all diseases can be remedied with a healthy lifestyle. I firmly believe things such as chlorella and spirulina too. There's more foreign bacteria within our body than our own if that tells you anything.

 

[eddymerckx]

I think this is a good trial because the stats show that typical gear user (not the one before spring break guy) is at least in his 30s+ and my guess is most bros in that category have to fight just to stay in shape and once out of shape have hurdles getting back b/c work/family/life and lower natty test and GH. Thus we (me 47) firmly believe it needs a lifestyle change + endogenous helpers.

 

[dylangemelli]

I think this is a good trial because the stats show that typical gear user (not the one before spring break guy) is at least in his 30s+ and my guess is most bros in that category have to fight just to stay in shape and once out of shape have hurdles getting back b/c work/family/life and lower natty test and GH. Thus we (me 47) firmly believe it needs a lifestyle change + endogenous helpers.

I couldn't agree more... You are in a category where anything that benefits you (for a multitude of reasons) is going to be so much more profound than someone 20 years younger... You are the ideal candidate for this... I am really excited to see your results...

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Great log, keep it up bro

 

[eddymerckx]

On my to the gym for the first time in--well too damn long.

Just pinned my Sustenon and dosed my rat with SARMS 1 GW-50 for the 1st time. As usual, Atomic tabs at the ready as my 2012 stats included them before a ride and during >4 hour rides.

Oh this is going to hurt by Monday

 

[travishibachi]

On my to the gym for the first time in--well too damn long.

Just pinned my Sustenon and dosed my rat with SARMS 1 GW-50 for the 1st time. As usual, Atomic tabs at the ready as my 2012 stats included them before a ride and during >4 hour rides.

Oh this is going to hurt by Monday

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger

 

[eddymerckx]

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger

naw, at 47 what does not kill you will just kill you another day

I deserve a bit of pain for not getting the job done for over a year--I got girardia (Montezuma's revenge) while golfing in Mexico in January and used that as an excuse for a couple of months (though it did suck).

 

[ceo]

naw, at 47 what does not kill you will just kill you another day

 

[eddymerckx]

Okay, I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, two days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100blodd ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

More to follow -- more details on strength as I establish a baseline.

 

[dylangemelli]

Okay, I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, two days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100blodd ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

More to follow -- more details on strength as I establish a baseline.

that's the kind of update and detail i like to see bro... i love the detail.... providing that detail can really show the impact that gw will have... you are going to continue to see some serious endurance increase and you are on your way to being better than ever bro... keep up the hard work!!

 

[eddymerckx]

that's the kind of update and detail i like to see bro... i love the detail.... providing that detail can really show the impact that gw will have... you are going to continue to see some serious endurance increase and you are on your way to being better than ever bro... keep up the hard work!!

I will keep updating bro--the thing is, I have little doubt that the GW-50 has has a definite impact on oxygen saturation--not too sure of the mechanism but the would have profound positive effects on both endurance and BB--more efficient transpiration mean fast lactic acid removal/more material to build/faster recovery.

The thing is, b/c I am used to riding 4000-5000 miles per year, the slightest change is a bright neon f'in sign for me (as I can go back to five years of daily records--not once did the blood oxygen saturation change like that---NOT once so it doubt it's a coincidence ---I can't wait to figure out the mechanism and how it work as it damn awesome considering cutting edge asthma meds have not been able to up the resting saturation

Also, i have bonked (glucose stored as glycogen is gone so turning to fat for energy (this happens after 3+ hours of riding ---y thought is the GW-50 is rerouting the pathways to get the body to but fat first as opposed to burning little if any on a short workout---thus it performs as you have written about --

 

[hurricane]

Awesome log so far eddie, expected nothing less from you.

 

[elite7777]

Nice info Eddy. While on GW you will find you will be able to raise your FTP a lot faster then before. This occurs because of quicker fat utilization... hence less fatigue allows you to train more. Gotta love burning fat over burning glycogen! However, I do believe that while on GW you still utilize glycogen to a large extent during sprints and intervals. I am curious to see how you respond.

 

[elite7777]

Has anyone taken note of the effect of GW on BP? Micardis, a product very similar to GW, is used for BP control. It therefore it stands to reason that GW would also tend to lower BP.

GW lowers my BP. The first time I took it I almost passed out in the middle of the night when I got up to take a piss. My body is used to it now so it doesn't give me that effect anymore. I also have Micardis/Telmisartin but have yet to try it. As I have mentioned before, Telmisartin has been shown to increase endurance and burn fat... I still wonder why more people aren't talking about it.

"A 2012 study in Journal of Strength Conditioning Research found that telmisartan increases endurance and a reliance on fat burning during exercise, like the popular but easily detected drug GW1516."

 

[RickRock13]

Okay, I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, two days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100blodd ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

More to follow -- more details on strength as I establish a baseline.

That is a very nice update bro. The detail you provided here really puts things in perspective of what GW is capable of.

 

[meathead96]

Okay, I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, two days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100blodd ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

More to follow -- more details on strength as I establish a baseline.

That's awesome bro. This really confirms the endurance aspect of it.

 

[dylangemelli]

I will keep updating bro--the thing is, I have little doubt that the GW-50 has has a definite impact on oxygen saturation--not too sure of the mechanism but the would have profound positive effects on both endurance and BB--more efficient transpiration mean fast lactic acid removal/more material to build/faster recovery.

The thing is, b/c I am used to riding 4000-5000 miles per year, the slightest change is a bright neon f'in sign for me (as I can go back to five years of daily records--not once did the blood oxygen saturation change like that---NOT once so it doubt it's a coincidence ---I can't wait to figure out the mechanism and how it work as it damn awesome considering cutting edge asthma meds have not been able to up the resting saturation

Also, i have bonked (glucose stored as glycogen is gone so turning to fat for energy (this happens after 3+ hours of riding ---y thought is the GW-50 is rerouting the pathways to get the body to but fat first as opposed to burning little if any on a short workout---thus it performs as you have written about --

its a shame you and i haven't talked more in the past because we have a lot of information to share bro... i really love the knowledge you have on this aspect of training... i think we can learn a lot from each other... keep up the good work and these kind of updates... the wealth of knowledge is priceless and this is the kind of knowledge that more people need to obtain... thanks bro...

 

[eddymerckx]

day 4. increased blood oxygen sustained--thus both endurance and recovery has been enhanced.

Bonked (low blood glycogen) again (it usually never happens to me as I take glucose during a long ride) thus I think it is confirmed that pathways have reconfigured to look to fat for energy first. I suspect that sparing the glycogen would allow a stronger finish (recruiting fast twitch fibers that are usually gone after a half dozen hills or sprints).

Thus: satisfied, very satisfied but even more intrigued as I have never had something increase performance w/o a long wait or hard core sides.

 

[liffalot]

Glad to hear that you're satisfied so far man. I'm definitely in for the ride to see how this works out for someone with a higher BF%!

 

[dylangemelli]

day 4. increased blood oxygen sustained--thus both endurance and recovery has been enhanced.

Bonked (low blood glycogen) again (it usually never happens to me as I take glucose during a long ride) thus I think it is confirmed that pathways have reconfigured to look to fat for energy first. I suspect that sparing the glycogen would allow a stronger finish (recruiting fast twitch fibers that are usually gone after a half dozen hills or sprints).

Thus: satisfied, very satisfied but even more intrigued as I have never had something increase performance w/o a long wait or hard core sides.

you are going to find yourself more and more intrigued because you endruance is going to continue to increase without the side effects... you will see why i want to take this every day all year because it provides the most amazing endurance and recovery...

 

[stevesmi]

I noticed after just 2 days a difference, it reminded me of that feeling after you finish a 5K in a drizzle and your lungs opened up

 

[eddymerckx]

I noticed after just 2 days a difference, it reminded me of that feeling after you finish a 5K in a drizzle and your lungs opened up

I could not put mt finger on it but you are right on point--it's the feeling that your lungs are 2x larger and you could run forever...

 

[meathead96]

I noticed after just 2 days a difference, it reminded me of that feeling after you finish a 5K in a drizzle and your lungs opened up

Gahh you guys are getting me super pumped. I can't wait till my GW comes in.

 

[liffalot]

I could not put mt finger on it but you are right on point--it's the feeling that your lungs are 2x larger and you could run forever...

Damn you......damn you! Well I'll be ordering some Sarms1 GW right........about........now.

 

[eddymerckx]

Damn you......damn you! Well I'll be ordering some Sarms1 GW right........about........now.

as most of the older bros know I don't support any supps unless I tried and loved them (like Atomic Tabs)--and I still have 3 more weeks of testing it--BUT so far it is just like the first time I did gear--you know you sorta don't really believe it until it hits -then it's like - okay, now I know what everyone is talking about.

 

[dylangemelli]

as most of the older bros know I don't support any supps unless I tried and loved them (like Atomic Tabs)--and I still have 3 more weeks of testing it--BUT so far it is just like the first time I did gear--you know you sorta don't really believe it until it hits -then it's like - okay, now I know what everyone is talking about.

it only gets better bro...

 

[C0LUMB0]

Good luck eddy ...subbed here bro.

 

[elite7777]

I could not put mt finger on it but you are right on point--it's the feeling that your lungs are 2x larger and you could run forever...

Take some GW, hit the Albuterol inhaler, then go do some intervals Good times!

 

[hurricane]

as most of the older bros know I don't support any supps unless I tried and loved them (like Atomic Tabs)--and I still have 3 more weeks of testing it--BUT so far it is just like the first time I did gear--you know you sorta don't really believe it until it hits -then it's like - okay, now I know what everyone is talking about.

indeed.MY favorite sarms product by far, if you want to even call its a sarms .Nothing comes close to it, for what it does.

 

[eddymerckx]

going for a Sunday ride in one of the Canyons that just re-opened after the flood so I will get a real feel how the GW-50 works as I have so many miles under my belt I know how I should feel (miserable/out of shape/high HR/low watts)--anything above that can only be traced to the GW-50

 

[hurricane]

going for a Sunday ride in one of the Canyons that just re-opened after the flood so I will get a real feel how the GW-50 works as I have so many miles under my belt I know how I should feel (miserable/out of shape/high HR/low watts)--anything above that can only be traced to the GW-50

have you ever used epo? sorry for the off topic question.

 

[eddymerckx]

have you ever used epo? sorry for the off topic question.

I tried it one time--big mistake. It was when I was transitioning from iron to endurance and did not understand how high the gear had already elevated my crit + living at altitude---I was probably closer to suffering the same fate as the Dutch & Spanish cyclists (when epo was first the rage--a whole bunch dies in their sleep b/c when the epo finally kicked in their blood was like sludge--bunch of guys in their 20s had heart attacks)except I am lucky to have a doc that I am honest with (my crit level was 65) and he sent me to the blood bank to a lot of blood drawn and then had me take some nasty expensive shots (heperin sp? I think) to thin my blood.

Now I can get to 55 w/just test and equipoise and training up high--and its still to high to compete in certain sanctioned races (the limit is 50).

So, b/c it takes so long for the epo to really work, any bro who has done a lot of test and not been donating should be real careful. BUT the gw-50 make me feel like I am transporting-- more oxygen than normal. Tomorrow I am biking outside for a long ride so that will be a real test.

On a side note--bonking again so I am sure it's rewired my energy mechanism--not sure how as it means it's changed or is doing something with glucose/atp/Krebs cycle....meed to do some reading.

 

[meathead96]

going for a Sunday ride in one of the Canyons that just re-opened after the flood so I will get a real feel how the GW-50 works as I have so many miles under my belt I know how I should feel (miserable/out of shape/high HR/low watts)--anything above that can only be traced to the GW-50

Nice! I just started GW myself. Will be going hiking tomorrow. Doubt I'll see effects that soon but who knows.

 

[elite7777]

I am looking forward to how your ride goes with the gw in your system!

 

[liffalot]

Nice! I just started GW myself. Will be going hiking tomorrow. Doubt I'll see effects that soon but who knows.

You probably will. GWs effects are usually seen anywhere between instant and two days in. For me I can usually instantly feel recovery effects and then the cardio gradually gets better and better

 

[meathead96]

You probably will. GWs effects are usually seen anywhere between instant and two days in. For me I can usually instantly feel recovery effects and then the cardio gradually gets better and better

Yeah I def felt my cardio levels were better in my hike in the mountains yesterday. We'll see how tonight's workout goes.

 

[eddymerckx]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

 

[dylangemelli]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

i was anticipating your updated! nice work bro! i am really happy to see the progress you are making and the rapid pace you are making it!

 

[elite7777]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

Nice feedback, thanks. What was the total distance of that ride?

Can you tell me how Atomic Tabs help cyclists? I am interested!

Also, have you thought about adding Aicar to the GW for an ever better endurance boost?

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah I def felt my cardio levels were better in my hike in the mountains yesterday. We'll see how tonight's workout goes.

i take half a dose before my workouts and i feel it that very workout. i take the other dose in the morning.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

looks great , keep these updates coming

 

[meathead96]

Nice work on the ride brother! Very happy to see that the GW is working well for you.

 

[RickRock13]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

Very nice update. Your numbers really helps put into perspective the power of GW. We really appreciate the attention to detail

 

[eddymerckx]

Very nice update. Your numbers really helps put into perspective the power of GW. We really appreciate the attention to detail

thanks--the thing is the jump of only a few % points may not seem impressive--man, having monitored this for years those small increments are actually only achieved by extreme anaerobic training at lactic acid threshold over many many months---here it comes in a bottle allowing the an achievable bar to be raised much higher

 

[cyclinfool]

16mph avg with a group?? This seems low. I've done a couple cx races and hard group rides while on GW and notice a slight increase in aerobic capability but my legs tire out quicker. It could be at this point in the season my legs cant keep pace with my lungs.

 

[Jbranken]

thanks--the thing is the jump of only a few % points may not seem impressive--man, having monitored this for years those small increments are actually only achieved by extreme anaerobic training at lactic acid threshold over many many months---here it comes in a bottle allowing the an achievable bar to be raised much higher

Damn that's crazy.. Exactly the reason it's banned. The shit works

 

[eddymerckx]

16mph avg with a group?? This seems low. I've done a couple cx races and hard group rides while on GW and notice a slight increase in aerobic capability but my legs tire out quicker. It could be at this point in the season my legs cant keep pace with my lungs.

you are leaving out some salient facts:
(1) 1st ride back since injury in 1.5 years--this was a ride to gauge condition--HR did not exceed about 83% of max at any time--pretty much pegged at 75ish.

(2) average speed includes about 20 miles of climbing for a total of 5900 feet gain in 58 miles (downhill speeds limited because the condition of the road after the 10,000 floods in September)

(3) finishing altitude of the 15 mile climb was 9700 feet

(4) I am 47

(5) average speed on the flats was 21-22

(6) this was a November ride--not May so no one was trying to peak[

(7) I was a solid Cat 2 rider in 2012 (from 2011 numbers)the just requested a downgrade to Cat 3

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

you are leaving out some salient facts:
(1) 1st ride back since injury in 1.5 years--this was a ride to gauge condition--HR did not exceed about 83% of max at any time--pretty much pegged at 75ish.

(2) average speed includes about 20 miles of climbing for a total of 5900 feet gain in 58 miles (downhill speeds limited because the condition of the road after the 10,000 floods in September)

(3) finishing altitude of the 15 mile climb was 9700 feet

(4) I am 47

(5) average speed on the flats was 21-22

(6) this was a November ride--not May so no one was trying to peak[

(7) I was a solid Cat 2 rider in 2012 (from 2011 numbers)the just requested a downgrade to Cat 3

You're in great shape for 47, congratulations bro

 

[dylangemelli]

excellent updates bro... this is exactly the type of numbers that need to be shown to fully gauge just how strong and effective that gw is... i am very happy to see your progress... keep up the good work bro!

 

[meathead96]

thanks--the thing is the jump of only a few % points may not seem impressive--man, having monitored this for years those small increments are actually only achieved by extreme anaerobic training at lactic acid threshold over many many months---here it comes in a bottle allowing the an achievable bar to be raised much higher

That's awesome, those few points can make a huge difference. Keep up the hard work!

 

[eddymerckx]

freakin' sinus infection--so slow the last few days but still down 14 lbs (but clothes fitting suggest more) and bench is up to 265; still struggling w/ squats (I don't like them and they do not like me)--may go back to hack squat and the 90 degree squat at my gym.

able to do two spinning classes in a row after a 45 minute warm-up on my own- (rare--and if you have ever done one you will know why) w/HR in cardio base range except for the intervals.

bp is a happy 101/65
SpO2 getting better
Resting HR a bit slower to come down but it's only been three weeks so I am not worried and the time to return to resting HR is quicker so it's all good.

tried to donated but blood crit at 55 so my doc drained me. (which I do not understand--who better to have high crit than a post-surgical patient.

My trial is over this week and I can say w/o hesitation the GW-50 works and does so in both fat loss and endurance-

 

[stevesmi]

i have been using GW and the stuff is awesome. i did a 177 stair climb on a wet surface and was the only person that day that didn't need to stop.

 

[meathead96]

Sorry to hear about your sinus infection. I've been having a lot of sinus trouble as well lately. Congrats on your bench increase. Keep killin it!

 

[eddymerckx]

Sorry to hear about your sinus infection. I've been having a lot of sinus trouble as well lately. Congrats on your bench increase. Keep killin it!

thanks bro--seems everyone I talk to has sinus issues (and who never usually have them)

worked legs today--and when I was on the 90 degrees leg press I thought I was going to drown in snot.

still a lot more weight to drop but happy to have my shirts fit tight over shoulders/bis --love this GW-50

 

[elite7777]

Eddy - nice work man. Why the high crit?

 

[hurricane]

great job eddie.Great documentation of how well gw works

 

[liffalot]

freakin' sinus infection--so slow the last few days but still down 14 lbs (but clothes fitting suggest more) and bench is up to 265; still struggling w/ squats (I don't like them and they do not like me)--may go back to hack squat and the 90 degree squat at my gym.

able to do two spinning classes in a row after a 45 minute warm-up on my own- (rare--and if you have ever done one you will know why) w/HR in cardio base range except for the intervals.

bp is a happy 101/65
SpO2 getting better
Resting HR a bit slower to come down but it's only been three weeks so I am not worried and the time to return to resting HR is quicker so it's all good.

tried to donated but blood crit at 55 so my doc drained me. (which I do not understand--who better to have high crit than a post-surgical patient.

My trial is over this week and I can say w/o hesitation the GW-50 works and does so in both fat loss and endurance-

Holy cow man that's great, glad to hear that Sarms1 GW is treating you well! Keep up the hard work!

 

[eddymerckx]

Good news--bloods back and everything is as expected except cholesterol numbers are better (while on gear).

Look like I lost 8.7 lbs of fat in 3.5 weeks (did the water weigh)

someone send me more-- will trade for legal services --BA, MBA, JD, LL.M Rated "Superb" (9.5/10) by attorney rating service.

 

[Jbranken]

Thanks for your research and feedback. Sounds like yor results were favorable

 

[ceo]

Can you tell me how Atomic Tabs help cyclists? I am interested!

Read about it here: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/dead-spot-fatigued-i-tested-fix-890233.html


Also, Atomic Tabs is having a BOGO sale now through Monday night.

Check it out: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...able-energy-buy-one-get-one-free-1287813.html

 

[eddymerckx]

Eddy - nice work man. Why the high crit?

b/c I live at 6000 feet. normal up here is mid-to-high 40s. Add a bit of test and it goes through the roof. We have 16 pro and pro development teams that are based here--so while the rule that you can't race with a crit above 50 is not applicable if your bio card has you that high or higher as normal.

 

[eddymerckx]

Nice feedback, thanks. What was the total distance of that ride?

Can you tell me how Atomic Tabs help cyclists? I am interested!

Also, have you thought about adding Aicar to the GW for an ever better endurance boost?

Just saw this--and the post I wrote a couple of years ago is still spot on. Atomic Tabs don't give you that crazy CNS which raises your HR and sorta defeats the whole purpose of training anaerobically or to exhaustion b/c it happens artificially before you are truly anaerobic/Lactic AT or muscle exhaustion.

A regular stim may be good if you are going into a powerlifting comp and need that burst for 10 seconds but not a good idea for training or anything else. The super high caffeine studies that show improved performance are by untrained subjects (they can bike 27 minutes instead of 24). A real endurance athlete chooses a specific level of exertion (and thus HR) to match the distance---e.g. will not run at 95% if I plan a 150 mile ride...I would pass out at about 25. If the HR is artificially 10% higher, the performance drops exponentially. Same with lifting--if you are not getting to exhaustion there simply is no growth--well not what any of us are looking for at least.

Atomic tabs does not cause the rapid rush--it's like sex---stim is the 19 yo who lasts six seconds; Atomic Tabs is for the man that better last 20 minutes or he sleeps on the couch.

 

[dylangemelli]

gw is known to raise the good cholesterol and lower the bad cholesterol and its clear that had an effect on you as well... just another of the many benefits of gw!

 

[elite7777]

b/c I live at 6000 feet. normal up here is mid-to-high 40s. Add a bit of test and it goes through the roof. We have 16 pro and pro development teams that are based here--so while the rule that you can't race with a crit above 50 is not applicable if your bio card has you that high or higher as normal.

Ah, thanks for the insight. I live just over sea level and run around 48 naturally. I wonder what would happen if I lived near you?

 

[eddymerckx]

Ah, thanks for the insight. I live just over sea level and run around 48 naturally. I wonder what would happen if I lived near you?

prob 51-52 w/in 6 months. It takes a full two years to 100% acclimatize so the jump in the crit may even be more--depends on your oxygen saturation (my wife born/grew up at 10,000 feet and she is a consistent 100% resting at 6000 feet compared to me, east coast boy, consistent 93-94 [except 94-96 one GW-50)--take full aerobic exercise to get me to high 90s.

They say the 1st 6 months you will lose about 10-20% of your flat land performance---which is one hell of a surprise the first 5k I ran out here--it was surreal--body just did not want to work--legs were trying to turn over but no air--they do a 100 mile footrace at 11,000 feet---the is about 35% less oxygen per litre (if not trained, you can die--usually at least one skier from the flatlands who becomes a vegetable b/c of brain swelling each year)

I would be interested to see how the GW-50 would work on a flatlander who come to ski here---I suspect (b/c of my results) they would not have the hypoxia that is inevitable--esp people who go straight to the highest peaks (or as we call them--popsicles)

 

[ceo]

sounds awful! I'll just live at sea level over here on the coast!

 

[eddymerckx]

gw is known to raise the good cholesterol and lower the bad cholesterol and its clear that had an effect on you as well... just another of the many benefits of gw!

Yea, I mean my log was all the numbers I recorded every day and the bloods before and after--and I conclude the stuff just plain works as promised--no hype needed I can look back of five and half years of logged training via Garmin & Powertap and other gadgets and there was nothing I did in that whole time that increased endurance and fat loss like GW-50.

GW-50 + Atomic Tabs = a serious edge in training and ultimate performance WITHOUT THE RISK OF THE ALTERNATIVES.

And I want people to see I have no discount codes/kickbacks/nada from the two products/suppliers--I heartily endorse them b/c their stuff just plain works as promised--good honest bros

 

[eddymerckx]

bump b/c bros worried about eating too many xmas fruit cakes

 

[semper03]

Hey man what's your current progress lookn Like?

 

[liffalot]

Good news--bloods back and everything is as expected except cholesterol numbers are better (while on gear).

Look like I lost 8.7 lbs of fat in 3.5 weeks (did the water weigh)

someone send me more-- will trade for legal services --BA, MBA, JD, LL.M Rated "Superb" (9.5/10) by attorney rating service.

What about hand-jibbers?

But seriously I started my Sarms1 GW about a week ago and holy hell, it feels nothing like any other GW I've ever given my rats. Great recovery between sets in the gym and cardio for days!

 

[RickRock13]

Good news--bloods back and everything is as expected except cholesterol numbers are better (while on gear).

Look like I lost 8.7 lbs of fat in 3.5 weeks (did the water weigh)

someone send me more-- will trade for legal services --BA, MBA, JD, LL.M Rated "Superb" (9.5/10) by attorney rating service.

Those are some pretty remarkable results. Nice fat loss numbers, and improving cholesterol numbers while on gear is pretty sweet!

 

[stevesmi]

those are scary results. good job

 

[dylangemelli]

Yea, I mean my log was all the numbers I recorded every day and the bloods before and after--and I conclude the stuff just plain works as promised--no hype needed I can look back of five and half years of logged training via Garmin & Powertap and other gadgets and there was nothing I did in that whole time that increased endurance and fat loss like GW-50.

GW-50 + Atomic Tabs = a serious edge in training and ultimate performance WITHOUT THE RISK OF THE ALTERNATIVES.

And I want people to see I have no discount codes/kickbacks/nada from the two products/suppliers--I heartily endorse them b/c their stuff just plain works as promised--good honest bros

thanks for keeping such a great log and showing the excellent detail you provided... i am really happy to have helped get you going on the right track bro... im always here if you need anything...

 

[eddymerckx]

thanks for keeping such a great log and showing the excellent detail you provided... i am really happy to have helped get you going on the right track bro... im always here if you need anything...

Thanks bro--I plan on a Jan-April run of GW-50.

Since coming off it, the fat loss has slowed a bit(I think--but clothes fit better so that may be the best judge); endurance is hard to tell b/c I think it gave me a jump start so I am able to do cardio much longer and a greater intensity than I would have expected (and I am usually good at reading my body). But that is the best part- higher intensity/longer duration means more fat loss in the long run.

So, GW-50 gives you a double dose of a way to lose fat/change body composition(1)the change in the pathways to grab the fat first and (2)the ability to do high(er) intensity workouts.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Thanks bro--I plan on a Jan-April run of GW-50.

Since coming off it, the fat loss has slowed a bit(I think--but clothes fit better so that may be the best judge); endurance is hard to tell b/c I think it gave me a jump start so I am able to do cardio much longer and a greater intensity than I would have expected (and I am usually good at reading my body). But that is the best part- higher intensity/longer duration means more fat loss in the long run.

So, GW-50 gives you a double dose of a way to lose fat/change body composition(1)the change in the pathways to grab the fat first and (2)the ability to do high(er) intensity workouts.

Cardarine (GW-501516) is the best for both endurance (cardio) and fat loss.

 

[meathead96]

Cardarine (GW-501516) is the best for both endurance (cardio) and fat loss.

Def and with little to not side effects too.

 

[Shrine1]

GW is great.. I havent noticed any sides personally. Def slimming in the waistline. SARMS1 is a great choice

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