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SARMS Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators | Sport Bodybuilding And Steroid Use

SARMS - Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators

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Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) provide the benefits of traditional anabolic/androgenic steroids such as testosterone (including increased muscle mass, fat loss, and bone density), while showing a lower tendency to produce unwanted side effects. They are a unique class of molecules currently under development for treatment of a variety of diseases that were previously treated with anabolic steroids and other medications. SARMs have been studied and developed since 1998, and as of this writing (2009) it should be stated that they are still very much in the infancy of their development and marketing.
Briefly and simply stated, the Androgen Receptor (AR) is the cellular receptor that androgens (like testosterone and other anabolic steroids) bind to. This bound androgen/receptor then combine with another similar combination (usually another androgen/androgen-receptor pair), and travel to the cell’s nucleus, where gene transcription is induced. This is one known mechanism of how androgens such as anabolic steroids exert their effects on cells. SARMs have the potential to take the place of the androgen, for all practical intents and purposes, and therefore exert many of the same positive effects on muscle tissue as anabolic steroids (such as testosterone).
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The Androgen Receptor plays a critical role in the development and function of primary and accessory sexual organs, skeletal muscle, and bone, as well as several other organs. When Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators bind to the receptor, they demonstrate anabolic (hypertrophic) activity in both muscle and bone, making them ideal candidates for androgen replacement therapy, muscle wasting, and treating Osteoporosis. In theory, they bind to the receptor and place it in a conformation that is significantly different than typical androgen receptors stimulators (such as steroids), and therefore are able to alter the gene-transcription process in a manner that is tissue specific.
It is this specificity that makes these receptor modulators able to selectively cause muscle growth, while reducing or eliminating unwanted secondary effects.
ANDROGEN RECEPTOR ACTION:
The Androgen Receptor is maintained in an inactive complex by HSP 70 and HSP 90 and corepressors (CoR). Upon ligand binding, the receptor homodimerizes and enters the nucleus. The receptor is basally phosphorylated in the absence of hormone and hormone binding increases the phosphorylation status of the receptor (P). The AR binds to the ARE on the promoter of androgen responsive genes, leading to the recruitment of coactivators (p160s, CBP, TRAP, ARAs) and general transcription factors (GTF), leading to gene transcription.(Adapted from Open Access Journal of Nuclear Access Signaling)
Ergo, unlike anabolic steroids, SARMs generally produce fewer unwanted side effects on non-target tissues such as the prostate, hairline, sebaceous glands, and secondary sexual organs. Some SARMs have even been developed specifically for the treatment of those kinds of side effects (i.e. for benign prostate hypertrophy).
Current oral androgen replacement therapy is very limited, with the only available forms of testosterone being Andriol (which is widely seen as expensive and ineffective) and Methyltestosterone (which is liver toxic). SARMs represent an alternative to the currently available oral testosterone preparations, and offer the user molecules that exhibit high oral bioavailability without the liver toxicity.
Although these molecules are tissue-selective with regards to their effects, they are not perfectly tissue-selective. Some display a disparity of anabolic (*tissue building) versus androgenic (*secondary sexual characteristic promoting) effect as high as 10:1 (although it should be noted that some have a much lower ratio). In practical terms, it would be highly unlikely that an effective muscle building dose would cause any noticeable side effects, and especially not when compared to traditionally prescribed anabolic steroids such as testosterone.
At this stage of development there are no SARMs available on the legitimate pharmaceutical market, although one (Ostarine) has made it into the third and last phase of clinical development (and is available on the black market, in liquid “research” form, from one supplier within the United States. Unfortunately, at this early stage of development, the exact mechanisms of their tissue selective activity is not entirely understood, nor is the full scope of their pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic activity.
There are numerous SARMs currently in the developmental stage with varying degrees of anabolic and androgenic activity, and varying potential for side effects. In general, though, the majority of them produce few side effects and have anabolic ratings similar to testosterone.
They typically display high oral bioavailability, and therefore most SARMs under development are going to eventually enter the market as oral medications. .
Although they have been banned for the past few years by the World Anti-Doping Agency, and there have been efforts underway to develop a testing protocol for them, there is currently no accepted testing procedure in place. The relatively short half life of SARMs, the uniqueness of their structure, their effectiveness, and the fact that research into their development is still in its infancy, presents a new and novel problem for doping authorities everywhere.

- Anthony Roberts
 
I've never heard of them before but being an article by Anthony Roberts it's probably some scheme to a product he's about to release or something lol...if he's not in jail. However, an A/A ration of 10:1 isn't good compared to testosterone which is 100/100 I believe. Unless you take 10 times the dosage or whatever I don't see a reason for trying to use it unless it's a legal alternative to AAS. So I don't know, it sounds interesting and would be nice if it was legal but I doubt that will happen.
 
I've never heard of them before but being an article by Anthony Roberts it's probably some scheme to a product he's about to release or something lol...if he's not in jail. However, an A/A ration of 10:1 isn't good compared to testosterone which is 100/100 I believe. Unless you take 10 times the dosage or whatever I don't see a reason for trying to use it unless it's a legal alternative to AAS. So I don't know, it sounds interesting and would be nice if it was legal but I doubt that will happen.

An Anabolic/Androgenic ratio of 10:1 is desirable for many people who are looking for a high-anabolic/low-androgenic compound. BTW, Testosterone's 100/100 is its rating, not its ratio, which is 1:1. And yes, SARMs are for real and they really work. I got mine. :D
 
They are legal for "research" only.


ok but is anyone selling them? I have yet to see one "research" company advertise them. Also, has anyone heard anything more about the side effects to your eyes? Apparently these SARMS fuck with your night vision........???
 
Ok, so I've spent the last two and a half hours obsessively researching this topic all over boards and every concievable research site. Yep, no one advertising them, but several people have been buying s4 from a couple different places.... places I can't seem to locate, lol. I read all about experiences with the eyesight thing- seems some natural herbs help with it and it goes away within 2 days or so of stopping s4, then you can take it again- it builds up in your system apparently. People are reporting 5 lbs of lean gains over the course of 6 weeks or so- no bloat, no other sides than the sight thing. I want it for bridging/pct!!
 
There is a source on the International Sources section of another popular message board. Keep looking, you'll find it!
 
The problems with vision are adjusting from bright to dark and vise versa. You can also experience a yellow tinge and floaters. These sides go away within a couple of days of discontinuing use. The sides can also be avoided in some cases by ramping the dose. It just takes longer for the SARMs to take effect. SERMs can cause similar side effects with vision as well. It just depends on the individual.
 
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I have yet to hear any negative things about it except the blurred vision and adjusting to light. A guy at another board (that someone mentioned a few posts ago) ran it and said at lower dosing it was comparable var, higher dosing he compared it to dbol. With virtually no side effects. Again, except the vision thing.......


So far everyone is calling it a "free lunch" but i have yet in my 32 yrs ever had a free lunch!
 
I'm experimenting with a new protocol using SARM4 and IGF-1 L3 during PCT. Not only am I not losing anything, I'm making substantial gains in between cycles, while simultaneously restoring my HPTA axis.This is much safer and more effective than a so-called "bridge" (which is actually just a fancy name for never really coming off-cycle). This is cutting-edge, and completely blows everything else out of the water. I'll let you know how I make out.
 
I'm experimenting with a new protocol using SARM4 and IGF-1 L3 during PCT. Not only am I not losing anything, I'm making substantial gains in between cycles, while simultaneously restoring my HPTA axis.This is much safer and more effective than a so-called "bridge" (which is actually just a fancy name for never really coming off-cycle). This is cutting-edge, and completely blows everything else out of the water. I'll let you know how I make out.

That's awesome man! Let us know how it all works! I love the idea of a legitimate "bridge" drug.
 
keep updates on affects and successes as well as sides!!!


also, assuming this is not an illegal product---


SOURCES!!!! :)

c;mon needto when can we get this shit off needtobuildmuscle
 
I'm guessing it's a little too rare and questionable to be on an open site for sale. But, I could be wrong. It really sounds very cool, so hopefully it'll become available more down the road.
 
im on my 3rd week. loving the workouts and the pump. I feel great. I feel strong. but the vision problems are getting worse. i went from 30mg twice a day to 50 twice aday. I feel vascular and pumped all day. the vision prblems are only in darkness. it takes a long time to adapt to darkness. i just ordered some tren and some var and im thinking of cycling all 3 of these. anyone have any ideas for me??? im open for suggestions.
 
I'm experimenting with a new protocol using SARM4 and IGF-1 L3 during PCT. Not only am I not losing anything, I'm making substantial gains in between cycles, while simultaneously restoring my HPTA axis.This is much safer and more effective than a so-called "bridge" (which is actually just a fancy name for never really coming off-cycle). This is cutting-edge, and completely blows everything else out of the water. I'll let you know how I make out.
I was looking into this same combo. Looks golden to me! I've been running 50 mg for two weeks and feel great.
 
I've never heard of them before but being an article by Anthony Roberts it's probably some scheme to a product he's about to release or something lol...if he's not in jail. However, an A/A ration of 10:1 isn't good compared to testosterone which is 100/100 I believe. Unless you take 10 times the dosage or whatever I don't see a reason for trying to use it unless it's a legal alternative to AAS. So I don't know, it sounds interesting and would be nice if it was legal but I doubt that will happen.

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