*Ross Presents: The Peanut Butter & Jelly Cycle*

[lartinos]

My body tends to bounce back from everything except Deca/tren.

 

[njmuscleguy]

sure it is.....Endo's will have somone on TRT/HRT for years and they can make a full recovery....The body will eventually "even" itself out.

In some cases people do not recover, but usually this means they were going to go hypogonadal is the long term anyways.

Also this is not advice that Im giving out...Just discussion.

understood.... just trying to make sense of this... so why would an endo have someone on TRT/HRT for years if they're not hypogonadal (or approaching it)? And if they are hypogonadal, then what's the point of coming off and making a full recovery... they would only recover to the highest level the body would allow, which is below "normal"

 

[Anthony Roberts]

understood.... just trying to make sense of this... so why would an endo have someone on TRT/HRT for years if they're not hypogonadal (or approaching it)? And if they are hypogonadal, then what's the point of coming off and making a full recovery... they would only recover to the highest level the body would allow, which is below "normal"

That's my question too. People talk about Dr.John Crissler's PCT methods...but he's a TRT/HRT doctor...why would he even have a PCT method?

He's a brilliant HRT doc, isn't he? He gives people who are low in testosterone (drum roll please):

Testosterone!

What a pioneer...pure genius, I say...

 

[needtogetaas]

As a side note on smoking...Nicotine lowers estrogen (is an AI)...and maybe helps with keeping DHT where I'd want it too.

your kidding

 

[Anthony Roberts]

your kidding

Nope.

 

[needtogetaas]

Nope.

what about its effects on cortizol ???

 

[Anthony Roberts]

what about its effects on cortizol ???

I'd have to look into that. I would bet it raises cortisol though, because it's a potent fat loss agent...

 

[H_T_]

i need to find a recipe to homebrew it.

 

[needtogetaas]

I'd have to look into that. I would bet it raises cortisol though, because it's a potent fat loss agent...

I know once people try to come off of it they can experience rapid weight gain thats for shore.

 

[boston789]

Nitcone also decreases semen production.