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darius75

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I'm the owner + managing director of a software company (35 employees). I'm 37 years old and I haven't been on steroids for 20 years (used decca twice when I was 17-18). I had worked like hell in the office for 10 years, got fat like a pig, wasted my back, etc. I spent the last year to get back to some shape. No gear, but loads of aminos, gym 3 times a week + cardio. Now I'm OK. I will start my cycle in about two weeks. At the moment I have 5*72 IU Humatrope (original from a hospital) and 50 amps of Primobolan

I'm thinking of starting up some discussions on how to use aas when you are i) busy ii) building bulk muscle may not be a priority but iii) the cost of gear is not necessarily an isssue, etc

I would also appreciate feedback on experience with primo/growth combo - I'm thinking of 2-3 iu/day + 200-300 mg/week to start with. I would run primo for 12-16 weeks and I will take Humatrope for about 6-8 months.

Are there any other ideas for cycles that give you steady gains and increase in strength?

Darius
 
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OK, no pics here, but will post some elsewhere. Yes I'm 100% positive that they are legit. Primos are from a pharmacy (bought them myself). Humatrope is from a hospital (bought them myself). Got the HumatroPen injection device with it, etc. But I think to get legit stuff is the main issue with planning "conservative" cycles - I really need to know what's in the amps and how much, etc.
 
OK, no pics here, but will post some elsewhere. Yes I'm 100% positive that they are legit. Primos are from a pharmacy (bought them myself). Humatrope is from a hospital (bought them myself). Got the HumatroPen injection device with it, etc. But I think to get legit stuff is the main issue with planning "conservative" cycles - I really need to know what's in the amps and how much, etc.

my wrath was meant for the scammer not you bro:) the board is a little slow this afternoon b/c of the games--bros will read these post later-my guess

i would try and help but I am GH challenged--I also put a copy of this thread in masters BB forum--check there also those bros may have more knowledge.
 
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you started steroids wehn you were 17-18??
 
Yes, I did 2 cycles in during the last 2 years of high school. It was easy to get nandrolone + tabs called Naposim (I think it was test). It was cheap.

Right now I'm looking for "conservative" options. I'm older. I'm patient. I have money. Also, I'm more concerned about side effects. I'm considering a number of options (will probably do 3-4 cycles during the next 5-6 years). They will all be GH based. Maybe IGF (if I can find a legit source). They will last for 12-16 weeks. GH I will take for 20-24 weeks. I'm looking for slow but steady gain. I'm taking primo with this first cycle because this was the only decent roid I could get from a legit source. Would also take Boldenone but I still need to find a legit source there. But there may be other options here...

My plan is to take Humatrope 2-3 i.us a day for a month. Take loads of calcium, glucosamine, shark cartilage, etc with it to strengthen my joints. Then start with primo going from 200 mg/week to 300 mg (maybe 400) mg /week - depending on how I respond to doses. I might also increase Humatrope up to 4 i.u. towards week 12 (What do you think about it - i would need some advice here???!).

I would also appreciate your advise for the last month of the cycle. I could throw in something new there.

I have some discussion points on 1. food -I find it difficult to eat regularily, 2. travel - I travel a lot, so I cannot do a cycle that requires shots every day. I wouldn't take tabs. For GH I can take natural GH enhancers for those days while I'm away for a few days.

Darius
 
I don't think 200-300 mgs of Primo a week is going to do much.
Plus 2-3-4 i.u Humatrope/day... I'm not very ambitious in terms of bulk muscle gain. Just want to feel fitter and some gains in lean muscle.

I would rather throw in a new elemnt than to increase the dosage. How about an additional decca inject/week? Would it make sense?
 
whatever you do throw in test at 250mmgs-400mgs week, otherwise the Primo and HGH won't do 2 much. I wouldn't go lower than 300 mgs Primo and 250 mgs test at any point in your cycle. HGH Mon-Fri 2-3 IU's day.
 
hey brother, Im 32 yrs old and in a similar position as yourself. I have a 1 yr old son and its hard between work and taking care of him to find the time to train.

I find that getting to bed early enough for me to wake up at 4am works pretty well. I knock out an hour of cardio in the mornings and then do weights right after work.

I would do a low dose of test cyp or test enth if I were you and stack with Anavar orals. They are very mild on the system. Do 40mgs of Anavar daily stacked with some test and your primo and growth and adhere to a very strict and clean diet and you will be good to go.
 
Thanks a lot for this. My biggest concern is travel (abroad 3-4 times a month 2-3 days each). I wouldn't risk taking gear with me on these trips, so it is max 2-3 shots/week for me. For the growth hormone I can take natural enhancers/secretagouges I've brought 3 different products and testing them now (with blood tests measuring GH, IGF, cortisol and thyroid serum concentrations one hour after taking the product). I will then stick to the one that works for me the best.

I know that test is essential so I may eventually go for a low dosage of test ethanate as you and other suggested. But maybe not from the very beginning. My body should still be producing enough test for some time before the negative impact of primo kicks in.

How about natural testosterone enhancers? Like tribulus? Wouldn't that be an alternative for the first 4-6 weeks?

I plan to run primo for 12-16 weeks altogether.

Cheers

Darius
 
I'm trying to find a way around test mainly because of the side effects - most of which are quite visible. I have a well established network of clients, I am regarded as a fairly conservative person (the times when i did intesive body building including some use of aas is like 15-20 years behind) so I'm trying to avoid this body builder appearance that comes with the use of test (not to mention hairloss and acne - how an earth would I explain that ;-) Basically I'm looking for quality muscle development that does not show through a suit, but something that is solid as hell
 
I'm trying to find a way around test mainly because of the side effects - most of which are quite visible. I have a well established network of clients, I am regarded as a fairly conservative person (the times when i did intesive body building including some use of aas is like 15-20 years behind) so I'm trying to avoid this body builder appearance that comes with the use of test (not to mention hairloss and acne - how an earth would I explain that ;-) Basically I'm looking for quality muscle development that does not show through a suit, but something that is solid as hell

Anavar 30-50 mg ED for 6-7 weeks.

B-
 
I actually tried to PM you but it says you don't wanna receive them?
Anavar is a good option to start out on, just remember like almost all orals long term or quite option is not realistic IMO. But yes it will work without test and most likely will not give you any sexual side effects but could possibly.
Forget about natural test boosters and just make sure to remember to use a long acting ester, depends on how long you will be on trips/vacation though. Whether you have hair or gyno issues can also change the plan of action, but the most important thing right now is to analyze what you are eating and how it is effecting your current body composition.
 
Anavar only at 80mg daily for 10 weeks would have you looking proper with zero side effects. not a big deal to take them with you when you travel. Just wear whitey tighties/briefs and put them under your nutsack in a baggy.

If you want the baller CEO look and dont want to add any size I would say Anavar is the supreme choice for your situation. Second best would be Winstrol tabs.

Anvar only without test is 100% OK. Ive done it myself and I can tell you I love Anavar. If I was wealthy I would have an entire kitchen cabinet full of that shit if I could afford it. You will lean out and harden up real nice. Sounds like the way to go for what your goals are.
 
Not to be a dick or anything but it sounds like plastic surgery might be a better fit than steroids.
 
Not to be a dick or anything but it sounds like plastic surgery might be a better fit than steroids.

That was a pretty lame comment bro. Not sure what you were trying to achieve by saying that.


Back on topic,

Bro I feel ya, I was(before I got laid off) an upper management desk jockey like yourself and I had the same worries. Basically, what you want to do is to run an hrt dose of test(150-200mg EW) and some Anavar. If you can get GOOD Anavar run it at 60mg ED(20mg 3x per day). If all you can get is shitty UG Var then run it at 80mg ED. The low dose of test will give you a nice strength boost and nice sexual function and well being and the Anavar will shred you up and give you that "look awesome in a suit" appearance. You shouldn't experience much bloat on a low dose of test like that, plus, at your age you might want to think about HRT anyway.

I know the look you're going for and this is the way in my opinion.
 
OK, so we are looking at a 24 week cycle of which:
Humatrope/GH/somatropin: weeks 1-12 at 3i.u/day, weeks 13-24 at 4.iu/day
Primobolan depot: weeks 4-12 at 200 mg/week, weeks 13-20 300/400 mg/week (depending on how I respond to doses)
Anavar: weeks 4-20 at 40-60 mg/day (depeding on how I respond to doses)
Test: weeks 8-20 (low dosage, maybe a single shot/week?)
HCG at the end

I'm thinking of increasing the GH dose to 2*3.i.us (morning/night) for the last month to compensate for the lack of aas intake and continue muscle development

I have a great stock of good quality egg protein, classic milk protein, I can take 2-3 shakes/day. Plus will take aminos whenever I have the time.

Further comments are welcome here - other cycle options too. This could be interesting for others, who are not full-time body builders but would like to get back to shape. So please keep the comments coming

Darius
 
Of course the basic presumption for any of these cycles would be that 1. the user already knows how to work out (I guess this is min 3-4 years of training experience but probably more) and that 2. you are already in a pretty good shape so that further muscle improvement without roids would be getting increasingly difficult
 
im still confused on why ceo's have to do different cycles then the normies hahaahah
 
That was a pretty lame comment bro. Not sure what you were trying to achieve by saying that.


Back on topic,

Bro I feel ya, I was(before I got laid off) an upper management desk jockey like yourself and I had the same worries. Basically, what you want to do is to run an hrt dose of test(150-200mg EW) and some Anavar. If you can get GOOD Anavar run it at 60mg ED(20mg 3x per day). If all you can get is shitty UG Var then run it at 80mg ED. The low dose of test will give you a nice strength boost and nice sexual function and well being and the Anavar will shred you up and give you that "look awesome in a suit" appearance. You shouldn't experience much bloat on a low dose of test like that, plus, at your age you might want to think about HRT anyway.

I know the look you're going for and this is the way in my opinion.


Good advice here. Run your primo at 400mg/wk along with this and you will be happy. The test is very important here for sexual function, and a feeling of general well being.
 
Because there is no room for obvious side effects like dbol, anadrol, and high doses of test give.
ahh the want to do steroid cycle without the steroid like results! gotcha
 
i would drop primo and just do test 200mg of cyp and anavar 10 weeks 60mgs a day. try that for your first run and see what you want to change with next cycle.
 
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