Rippetoe on chest exercises

[SouthernLord]

poweredup : lifting is gaining mass, am i right? so, maybe they're not here to gain mass?

josephus : its called KNOWLEDGE! u BUM!!

Come on bro? Knowledge? Well my dad can beat up your mom. All you guys sound like a bunch of newbs with this shit.

 

[PoweredUp]

Come on bro? Knowledge? Well my dad can beat up your mom. All you guys sound like a bunch of newbs with this shit.

I'm not quite sure why you're viewing it the way that you are. The goal here (at least from my angle) was to provide information so that people are not wasting their time and energy trying to add on muscle size. Their is fairly conclusive scientific data that flyes are nowhere near the same zip code as heavy pressing amd dips in terms of growing the chest muscle. So its not quite the same as "My dad can beat up your dad." If the thread doesn't interest you personally, then don't get involved.

 

[lanny]

its My dad can beat up your mum..

i think he's prolly 15... sheesh.. continue with the fly's and bence arguement.. its good thing to know.. i saw someone doing the DB bench, and the going for incline, then doing flies the other day.. he's kinda big, twice my size.. but i think he was originally fat...=.=

and i rmbr'd reading something about doing incline is useless once we do Barbell bench..?

 

[PoweredUp]

and i rmbr'd reading something about doing incline is useless once we do Barbell bench..?

Not quite. Rippetoe says that if you do BOTH flat bench presses and overhead presses (military or push) then the incline is rendered useless. If you don't do the military or push presses, then the incline is fine. The decline is pointless at all times.

 

[silver_shadow]

Come on bro? Knowledge? Well my dad can beat up your mom. All you guys sound like a bunch of newbs with this shit.

that's a childish argument.

 

[lanny]

oo.. well i do the flat bench AND the OHP... which OHP is farkin hard to increase!!

 

[djeclipse]

oo.. well i do the flat bench AND the OHP... which OHP is farkin hard to increase!!

Try going up 2.5lbs instead of 5lbs/ week, it helps keep the weight moving.

 

[SouthernLord]

I'm not quite sure why you're viewing it the way that you are. The goal here (at least from my angle) was to provide information so that people are not wasting their time and energy trying to add on muscle size. Their is fairly conclusive scientific data that flyes are nowhere near the same zip code as heavy pressing amd dips in terms of growing the chest muscle. So its not quite the same as "My dad can beat up your dad." If the thread doesn't interest you personally, then don't get involved.

You're right. I should have stayed out of it. I do agree with the bench and dips being superior to flyes. Actually Dips are about as complete as a chest exercise as you can get. But is is all relative. I have trained for PL and competed and I have trained for purely cosmetic reasons and put on mass. Flyes are used by almost every bodybuilder and they do help with size gain in the chest. Are they superior to dips and bench? No. The "My dad can beat up your mom" was a joke and directed to Lenny who called me a "BUM". Btw lenny, I have read your log and my squat is bigger than your squat/bench/dead combined so stf and go eat something.

 

[djeclipse]

You're right. I should have stayed out of it. I do agree with the bench and dips being superior to flyes. Actually Dips are about as complete as a chest exercise as you can get. But is is all relative. I have trained for PL and competed and I have trained for purely cosmetic reasons and put on mass. Flyes are used by almost every bodybuilder and they do help with size gain in the chest. Are they superior to dips and bench? No. The "My dad can beat up your mom" was a joke and directed to Lenny who called me a "BUM". Btw lenny, I have read your log and my squat is bigger than your squat/bench/dead combined so stf and go eat something.

lanny is just starting out, but he is on the right track with good training. You've been training longer and I would hope that your lifts would be more.

 

[SouthernLord]

lanny is just starting out, but he is on the right track with good training. You've been training longer and I would hope that your lifts would be more.

You're right he is on the right track, and I am a disgruntled asshole. I think I might shoot him some K. Peace