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Yeah buddy i just had the worst thing in life happen to me. My ex girl and i broke up about 2 months ago and i moved to san diego after being with her for 4 years. As if thats not stressfull enough last month she was killed in a car accident. I was 6 weeks in on a cycle kinda ruined it for me but i kept up on my injections and hit the gym as much as i could to keep my mind off of things. Everyday has been getting a little easier but there is still hard moments. all i can suggest is keep your head up and if working on yourself makes you feel better then that is the best healing solution there is. Just keep busy to try and keep your mind off it as much as possible :(
 
jeezum bro, you her and famalies r in my prayers, i couldnt imagine how hard that could be, me and my fiance after 3 years just split and it sucks, i mean really sucks
 
Yea i know the feeling. Dealing with women is one thing men were not programed to handle i guess. There is no stress greater then a women you love can cause you... Thanks for the respect and wishes.... good luck bro...
 
my first and only cycle, my 'ex' hated me doing juice. she flipped out almost everyday. if you knew her, that wouldnt be hard to believe. she actually threw my box of gear across the room, breaking a few vials..... nice. then came at me with a knife. :D

she got so crazy that I set up a camera for when I was away to see wtf she was doing in my absence. I actually caught her STEALING from me!!!! I figured if she didnt make me 'rage' then nothing could...

I booted her out that night... she showed up the next day with her new boyfriend, that she was moving in with. hahah...

Im really sorry to hear that Obey.... dont want to sound insensitive, but wheres a car accident for MY ex? someone that truely deserves it.
 
instant.muscle said:
anyone ever about 2 start a cycle, in the middle of or at the end of a cycle have relationship problem, for example me and my fiance splitting up, how did yall deal with it?
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my girl and started really fighting a couple of weeks ago , [been dating a yr]
she was saying i had changed , and i just started a cycle 4 weeks ago , while i was gone out 1 night she was being nosey and found all of my gear and freaked out [of course i did not tell her i was on a cycle] she went and looked up my gear on the internet and was asking all kinds of questions , this week she was asking why im so horny all the time, its kinda funny , she has never been w/ anyone who hits the juice,
but hang in there and train and if you love her make it right
 
i dont know why anyone would juice and not tell there gf. if you cant tell the person that you are supposed to be closest to, then maybe you need a new gf or none at all. not trying to slam anyone here.... IMO it seems like hiding it would to harder to accomplish than just being honest.
 
looking to lean said:
i dont know why anyone would juice and not tell there gf. if you cant tell the person that you are supposed to be closest to, then maybe you need a new gf or none at all. not trying to slam anyone here.... IMO it seems like hiding it would to harder to accomplish than just being honest.
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Because women are fucking crazy, and most times will use any ammunition they have against you if you begin to have an argument. Thats why people hide it from their significant other.

For example... my wife is Bi-Polar. To put it simply, the bitch is fuckin crazy... period. She will flip out and be the most irrational person you can imagine. When she starts acting that way, i can tell immediately that shes just having "one of those days". Its like she lives in a different reality. She will try and twist any and everything she can to convince herself that I have done something wrong to make her feel the way she is feeling, when most times I havent done a damn thing. And thats the honest to god truth.

So with that being said... I hide my use from my wife. I have been married to my wife now for only 6 months, however we have dated for 10 years prior (if you want to know why we dated so long, its because I wasnt sure if I really wanted to marry someone that fucking crazy...seriously) I don't want us to get in any kind of argument and then her turn around and say its because im using gear. That would make me damn near blow my top Im sure. So I just bypass that entire issue by concealing my use from her.

She and I have discussed it (cycles), and she knows im an educated person who wouldnt do anything without the right research and using properly... however I know from past experiences that what she says almost always isnt what she means, or what comes to be when it all boils down to it.

My gear use is the ONLY thing I hide from my wife, and I feel like I have a good enough justification for it.

I guess it all depends on the people involved and their situations. I agree with you that you should be able to share everything with the person you love... however its just not always best given unique circumstances such as mine.

Anwyway thats my 2 cents. Didnt mean to hi-jack the thread! :worried:
 
looking to lean said:
i dont know why anyone would juice and not tell there gf. if you cant tell the person that you are supposed to be closest to, then maybe you need a new gf or none at all. not trying to slam anyone here.... IMO it seems like hiding it would to harder to accomplish than just being honest.
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Because women are fcking insane and juice is illegal. I can think of 3 or 4 of my ex's that woulda dropped dime on me cuz we ended so badly...
 
i see it this way,i been having problems with my girl this pass months i love her to death i been with her 2 years but it has gotton a lil worst since ,but some girls dont understand how hard we work to have our bodys the way they are ,most of our fights come cause of the juice and me spending to much time at the gym,the best thing to do is to tell them straight up either they support you or not ,i have a passion for the sport i been doing this for 5 years and im not going to stop ...i feel you on that immortalis , my girl is bi-polar too she flips out sometimes ...
 
gautho said:
The stress of going thru end of relationships can eat away at your muscle like a fuggin cancer. Been there.
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wow add me to that group as well brothers, and i have not been on in a while, we actually fought more while i was off...
Its hard as hell just gotta suck it up and drive on.. at least thats what i tell myself.... thats why i been just going to the gym and playing on pc for last few weeks.. good luck bro.... littleb
 
i believe if your going to do it be upfront with the girl and make sure they are cool with it. because if their not its going to turn ugly. i just got a broken nose from arguing with my girl in the car after she found needles. (she suckered punched me in the car while i was driving while arguing) she doesn't understand anything about gear and thinks of it as crack or heroin. basically everyone has a different opinion on things and if you don't match you have to give if you want to keep them. after being so far into a relationship and ur girl finding that stuff its best to keep her and get rid of the gear. otherwise u could be ratted out if you don't. 4 cycles gone in the trash.
 
frankmasterpiece said:
...i feel you on that immortalis , my girl is bi-polar too she flips out sometimes ...
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My girl is a highly co-dependent, bi-polar person with schizophrenic tendencies...

It makes shit "interesting" at times to say the least heh. :coffee:
 
damn, immortalis, instant muscle and obey.
my thoughts and prays are with all of you.

lucky for me I showed my girl that I am educated on the subject and use safely. She is cool with it :)
 
Instant Muscle the answer to your problem is easy. GET ANOTHER WOMAN! Theres literally millions of single women out there, if the one your with isnt working give her the boot and get another. If your fiance wants to be with you she will be if not than all the begging and pleading are only going to make you look weak and pathetic to her. I guarantee if you take my advice you'll forget about your fiance in no time.
 
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I'm not even gonna get started on you guys that lie to your gf out of fear of rejection or them dropping dime on you if you break up. It's your choice to put up with that shit just to keep a supply of ass around. Personally I'd rather get hit by a bus than be stuck with some bitch I had to hide my flaws from. But that's just me.

Now to answer the thread poster's question. I recommend new ass to get you over the old asss 1st and foremost. For lonlieness, buy a dog. I have 3 pits and whenever I take them to the park chicks come talk to me about them. So they kinda serve a dual purpose. Chicks seeing you with a dog tells them that bare minimum you are capable of keeping another animal alive-which shows soime sense of responsibility. Invest more time in the gym and on food prep. Anything that improves your physique will make you feel better about yourself. If you're still sitting around depressed, get X-box or something to try and keep your mind off her. Also if you live anywhere Tom Leykis is on the radio, listen to his show daily. You'll hear guys calling in that fucked themselves in their relationships so badly, your situation will seem pretty tame by comparison.
 
yeah well everyday its getting a little better but she's always in the back of my head, we didn't even break up cuz of juice either. i wish there was a way i could just fucking forget she existed but my friends date her friends and its a big cluster fuck so sometimes i'm forced 2 run in2 her or her friends
 
been down this road and at present dealing with the same but I am not mid cycle Its always hard to break up but If there is one thing, and it was said. channel it to your work outs , bodybuilding and A.s dont mix well with some women and I have had some women in the past make threats to drop a dime and some did , So I feel for ya bro I really do I know its hard but keep training I have trainned my hardest when dealing with break ups just pump your self up to ( tell yourself I will show her and train , imagin her with another guy ) I know its childish But the anger will charge you to a hole new level It did for me , on the other hand Is it becasue of A.s you are breaking up...? see thats why i say I never hid A,S use from girl friends my girl of 2years broke up with me last night we had it out about me juicing but bottem line she has good points But I need to do for me and I miss the trainning, she Left last night and I am hurt but fuck her if she loved me it would be for better or worse and if she going to end things over A.s then how much can she really love me , i tell your bro Its hard but this is not my first trip down this road and this will not be yours , So stay strong and train , it all works out in the end
 
welcome to the world of juice and relationship bud. Unfortunately sometimes they just dont mix
I caught my fiance fucking some other guy the night before my first BBing show last April. She told me since I was too busy prepping to give her cock she had to go get it somewhere else
kinda sad cause i had dedicated my performance at my show(which i won) to her.
that was a long night....
 
jeez u still won? hats off, i wouldn't have been able 2 even go 2 the competition, i keep telling myself what u said mr disfunkshun, that thru goodd and bad times, yeah if she's gonna leave me for no good reason, she said she wanted 2 have fun and experience life before she knew for sure if she wanted 2 b wit me, fuck her, so i keep telling myself i'll find someone else, i know its stupid but all i can think about is that i'll never get over her
 
If you have an honest relationship. There should be no problem with it. My girl doesn't understand why I do it, but she supports me in whatever I do. Unless it were to get way out of hand...
 
my wife knows and even talked to her about it before my first cycle.yeah we"ve been together for awhile,but juice or the gym doesn"t come before my family. she even talks to me when I"m doing shots like its no big deal.we"ve never had one argument over the juice. I'm one lucky guy !!!!!!!!!!
 
cat_fish said:
Instant Muscle the answer to your problem is easy. GET ANOTHER WOMAN! Theres literally millions of single women out there, if the one your with isnt working give her the boot and get another. If your fiance wants to be with you she will be if not than all the begging and pleading are only going to make you look weak and pathetic to her. I guarantee if you take my advice you'll forget about your fiance in no time.
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I fully agree with this statement. A little harshly put, but it gets the point across well. I mean come on guys.... what the hell are you doing juice for anyways? too look and feel great, correct?

just cuz you have been with her for X amount of time or she is as hot as X movie/porn star, doesnt mean you shouldnt or cant get out of the relationship.

if she is "bipolar" or what have you, and you cant talk to her about everything..... especially something as important as AAS in your life.. and hers, then guys, you need to look at yourselves as the possible problem in the relationship.. not her. at least she is getting shit out in the open when she is yelling.

My girl doesnt want me to do AAS, but she sees that Im doing all my homework and Im dedicated to my diet and training regimen. She is even going to the gym with AND without me now. When the time comes, she even wants to inject for me. Now thats support.

Bottom line... If you cant be totally honest with her (and yourself) you need to find a girl you that you can be honest with. If you are arguing on a regular basis, you need to get out immediately! Why be with someone that doesnt see eye to eye with you? Are you guys living in areas without other women? did you ship the one you are with in from somewhere else? if so, send her back for a refund or exchange! :P
 
looking to lean said:
I fully agree with this statement. A little harshly put, but it gets the point across well. I mean come on guys.... what the hell are you doing juice for anyways? too look and feel great, correct?

just cuz you have been with her for X amount of time or she is as hot as X movie/porn star, doesnt mean you shouldnt or cant get out of the relationship.

if she is "bipolar" or what have you, and you cant talk to her about everything..... especially something as important as AAS in your life.. and hers, then guys, you need to look at yourselves as the possible problem in the relationship.. not her. at least she is getting shit out in the open when she is yelling.

My girl doesnt want me to do AAS, but she sees that Im doing all my homework and Im dedicated to my diet and training regimen. She is even going to the gym with AND without me now. When the time comes, she even wants to inject for me. Now thats support.

Bottom line... If you cant be totally honest with her (and yourself) you need to find a girl you that you can be honest with. If you are arguing on a regular basis, you need to get out immediately! Why be with someone that doesnt see eye to eye with you? Are you guys living in areas without other women? did you ship the one you are with in from somewhere else? if so, send her back for a refund or exchange! :P
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I agree 100%. Be prepared for the barrage of flames these guys will hit you with justifying the secret life they live behind wifey's back. God forbid someone should like them for who/what they really are instead of the person they portray themselves to be to keep theirr supply of ass in check. Pussy is like a drug for some people and they'll just keep beating themselves in the head with a hammer daily just to get a taste of poon 2-3x a week. I like poon just as much as the next guy, but putting on a social mask everytime they come around is too high of a price for any bitch's twat.
 
immortalis said:
Because women are fucking crazy, and most times will use any ammunition they have against you if you begin to have an argument. Thats why people hide it from their significant other.

For example... my wife is Bi-Polar. To put it simply, the bitch is fuckin crazy... period. She will flip out and be the most irrational person you can imagine. When she starts acting that way, i can tell immediately that shes just having "one of those days". Its like she lives in a different reality. She will try and twist any and everything she can to convince herself that I have done something wrong to make her feel the way she is feeling, when most times I havent done a damn thing. And thats the honest to god truth.

So with that being said... I hide my use from my wife. I have been married to my wife now for only 6 months, however we have dated for 10 years prior (if you want to know why we dated so long, its because I wasnt sure if I really wanted to marry someone that fucking crazy...seriously) I don't want us to get in any kind of argument and then her turn around and say its because im using gear. That would make me damn near blow my top Im sure. So I just bypass that entire issue by concealing my use from her.

She and I have discussed it (cycles), and she knows im an educated person who wouldnt do anything without the right research and using properly... however I know from past experiences that what she says almost always isnt what she means, or what comes to be when it all boils down to it.

My gear use is the ONLY thing I hide from my wife, and I feel like I have a good enough justification for it.

I guess it all depends on the people involved and their situations. I agree with you that you should be able to share everything with the person you love... however its just not always best given unique circumstances such as mine.

Anwyway thats my 2 cents. Didnt mean to hi-jack the thread! :worried:
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ummmmmm LOL.....
 
BigCracker said:
I agree 100%. Be prepared for the barrage of flames these guys will hit you with justifying the secret life they live behind wifey's back. God forbid someone should like them for who/what they really are instead of the person they portray themselves to be to keep theirr supply of ass in check. Pussy is like a drug for some people and they'll just keep beating themselves in the head with a hammer daily just to get a taste of poon 2-3x a week. I like poon just as much as the next guy, but putting on a social mask everytime they come around is too high of a price for any bitch's twat.
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they may flame away, but I still have the perfect girl friend. example...

Im reading and posting on this thread this morning. She wakes up and comes to see what Im up to. I tell her about this thread and what Im writing. She smiles... drops to her knees and voila... Good Morning Me!

Get a new girl, guys. Took me until I was 31 before I found one that didnt piss me off everyday. Up til then... I was doing the same BS as you all. ~Making things work out as best I could in a shit relationship~ Dont do it. Not worth it.
 
looking to lean said:
i dont know why anyone would juice and not tell there gf. if you cant tell the person that you are supposed to be closest to, then maybe you need a new gf or none at all. not trying to slam anyone here.... IMO it seems like hiding it would to harder to accomplish than just being honest.
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A few cycles and summers ago I shot my delt way to low and had a golf ball size bruise on my arm for a week. It was SO hard to hide it from my wife, and I lost so many hours to being paranoid that I decided to share my vice w/ her. SHe hates them, but we have 4 kids so she ain't going anywhere.....j/k lmfao
 
Interstingly enough you guys...i disagree with using "anger" or "thinking of her with another guy" as motivation to train. Anger/spite/jealously/hatred/revenge etc.. are all very negative low tone emotions that will drain your strength faster than pretty much damn near anything else.
My advice, stay out of the gym for a little while and really go through the emotions you are feeling till you can accept them without them controlling you and forcing you into shame/despar/rage..etc. This may seem like it will take awhile but just be open to the emotions and dont fight them off. trust me, you will integrate them soon enough.
When you workout, workout using emotions of love, joy, bliss...etc these will empower you and truly give you what you truly desire, peace and happiness.

take it from one who has been there repeatedly..:coffee:
 
looking to lean said:
they may flame away, but I still have the perfect girl friend. example...

Im reading and posting on this thread this morning. She wakes up and comes to see what Im up to. I tell her about this thread and what Im writing. She smiles... drops to her knees and voila... Good Morning Me!

Get a new girl, guys. Took me until I was 31 before I found one that didnt piss me off everyday. Up til then... I was doing the same BS as you all. ~Making things work out as best I could in a shit relationship~ Dont do it. Not worth it.
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did u give her a dime bag then, how much did she charge?

j/k bro does she have a sister?
 
all of my friends and family have been happy we split up, they all hated her and thought she treated me like shit and i'm very young and they warned me i would b throwing my life away
 
Re: relationship problems?

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Interstingly enough you guys...i disagree with using "anger" or "thinking of her with another guy" as motivation to train. Anger/spite/jealously/hatred/revenge etc.. are all very negative low tone emotions that will drain your strength faster than pretty much damn near anything else.
My advice, stay out of the gym for a little while and really go through the emotions you are feeling till you can accept them without them controlling you and forcing you into shame/despar/rage..etc. This may seem like it will take awhile but just be open to the emotions and dont fight them off. trust me, you will integrate them soon enough.
When you workout, workout using emotions of love, joy, bliss...etc these will empower you and truly give you what you truly desire, peace and happiness.

take it from one who has been there repeatedly..
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That's truly great advice....
 
BigCracker said:
I agree 100%. Be prepared for the barrage of flames these guys will hit you with justifying the secret life they live behind wifey's back.
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I guess it depends on the woman your with at the time. I was dating a flight attendant for over a year and one day out of the clear blue sky she said if I was on steroids its over, I hadnt gone over to the dark side yet so it wasnt a problem. Another girl I was dating encourged it but beings she was in law enforcement I thought it would be better to keep it on the down low only because I didnt see the relationship getting past the bedroom. Now my ex-wife thats a different story, she was a mean vindictive controlling bitch who came from a family that had enough money to buy and sell me. I knew that if I told her she'd hold it over my head for the rest of my life and if she would have gotten pissed off at me for any reason what so ever she would have dropped a dime on me in a New York minute.

As far as Instant Muscles is concerned.... bro your young do yourself a favor get yourself another woman, you'll be good to go in no time.
 
looking to lean said:
they may flame away, but I still have the perfect girl friend. example...

Im reading and posting on this thread this morning. She wakes up and comes to see what Im up to. I tell her about this thread and what Im writing. She smiles... drops to her knees and voila... Good Morning Me!
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Props to you. Most guys would be hitting Ctrl/Alt/Del as soon as they heard her roll out of bed. lol
 
Interesting stuff -- I feel for anyone who breaks up but sometimes its for the best. The worst part is not having that familiarity around you. But if there are fundamental differences in beliefs that exist that can't be discussed or compromised on, they will always permeate every part of the relationship. Then anything that is illegal is going to be up for grabs when it comes time to "exercising control" by one party or the other. I do find it interesting how illegal recreational drugs don't seem to be viewed as bad as AAS, but that reflects the awareness & tolerance level these days. But I suspect most fo the fear of AAS is from lack of knowledge. If there is no room for discussion, then it will be a point of contention that you have to either choose to hide, not do, or come clean with and go w/ whatever final decision she or you both make.

If your cycle is making a noticeable change in your disposition, then YOU need to acknowledge it and deal w/ it accordingly. Plenty of guys have acknowledged a significant change in demeanor while on tren for ex - so that something that may manifest itself in more fights w/ your g/f and she will then go after your AAS use and everything else. If you have already chosen to cycle, to cycle somethign that you can't handle or changes you that much while you have other people in your life is akin to claiming a "recreational drug habit" on something that you can't handle and you demonstrate that you can't handle it every time you go out.

The bipolar thing -- I lived w/ a girl who was bipolar in college - that was weird enough. I can't imagine the relationship too. I guess if you want that sort of "excitement" in your life ... ;)

There is no one way to handle all of this stuff -- a couple guys noted that "women are crazy" -- but I think its also legitimate to say that women do crazy things when they feel they've been hurt or screwed or if they feel like the relationship is goign down the drain - easier to create a big fat conflict than to deal w/ it. I'm not defendign that action at all - but I've seen guys do it just like girls do it. I guess there its a reflection of the degree of co-dependence / lack of self-confidence the person has.

And lastly, you are also dealing w/ situations where the lifestyle is different - if you are deeply into the gym culture which requires regular time inthe gym, diet, etc, there isn't a lot of room for people who don't also espouse that way of living. Trust me - I've lost plenty of friends during my own regional amateur competition prep. People dont' "get" why its so important that you get to shovel down meals at weird hours or why you are so pissed because you missed a cardio session. You may not have experienced the argument about why you hate yourself or even the other person for "allowing you' to eat the whole jar of peanut butter and now you'll be fat & bloaty for 2 days.... (that may be a girl thing..... :rolleyes: )

But just like girls have to deal w/ hormonal changes every month, guys + steroids = hormonal changes as well. These are all very fundamental things about each of us and it definitely adds a new dimension to us & our interactions w/ other people.

Definitely wish you all luck in your various situations. I would only ask that you recognize that cycles & PCT do affect your hormones and that how you feel or even what caused your break ups may have had something to do w/ that -- how you deal w/ it may be different to each of you, but at least if you are aware of it, you can learn better how to deal w/ it so it maybe doens't have catastrophic impact on your lives and the people around you.

:)
 
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did u give her a dime bag then, how much did she charge?

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ouch... no payment needed. lol

she is more perfect than than that even...

I own a tattoo and piercing shop. She is my piercer. she is also my manager. so she works for me all day. makes me money while she is there. Deposits my money for me, then just before she comes home, she goes groc shopping. Then home to cook dinner. AND SHE IS GORGEOUS!

Not once have we argued about anything. Now thats a relationship.

ok, well this isnt the 'My GF is perfect' thread so I will shut up there. but just to let you people out there, with shitty relationships know, you have choices!
 
Im really sry to hear about your loss bro really I am. May God be with her and you and I pray things go for the better. God Bless.

I talked with my girl cause I told her I was thinking of starting on my very first cycle. She took it very good as her whole family uses them and she trusts me and knows I could be very careful. All she says is if thats what I really want then she is all for it and she lets me have my time in the gym. Been dating a year and a few weeks now, best friends for 5 years, i'll ask her to marry me this summer :qt:

So far no problems with her. She is truly one of those rare catches and I just know that there are girls like that out there. If you get shafted from a girl you are dating for something that makes you happy... well then she doesn't truly care for you and love you. But they may do that cause Steroids can kill a person and they may not want to see you all get into that much danger.. I don't know, Women are complicated, men can be too.. God made us all different so we don't get along TOO perfectly :) If we did, where would the fun be at and all the excitement?
 
immortalis said:
Because women are fucking crazy, and most times will use any ammunition they have against you if you begin to have an argument. Thats why people hide it from their significant other.

For example... my wife is Bi-Polar. To put it simply, the bitch is fuckin crazy... period. She will flip out and be the most irrational person you can imagine. When she starts acting that way, i can tell immediately that shes just having "one of those days". Its like she lives in a different reality. She will try and twist any and everything she can to convince herself that I have done something wrong to make her feel the way she is feeling, when most times I havent done a damn thing. And thats the honest to god truth.

So with that being said... I hide my use from my wife. I have been married to my wife now for only 6 months, however we have dated for 10 years prior (if you want to know why we dated so long, its because I wasnt sure if I really wanted to marry someone that fucking crazy...seriously) I don't want us to get in any kind of argument and then her turn around and say its because im using gear. That would make me damn near blow my top Im sure. So I just bypass that entire issue by concealing my use from her.

She and I have discussed it (cycles), and she knows im an educated person who wouldnt do anything without the right research and using properly... however I know from past experiences that what she says almost always isnt what she means, or what comes to be when it all boils down to it.

My gear use is the ONLY thing I hide from my wife, and I feel like I have a good enough justification for it.

I guess it all depends on the people involved and their situations. I agree with you that you should be able to share everything with the person you love... however its just not always best given unique circumstances such as mine.

Anwyway thats my 2 cents. Didnt mean to hi-jack the thread! :worried:
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Boy do I feel your pain. Same exact situation. Been with my wife 10 years and she too is bipolar. I know your hell. The ONLY person that absolutely knows I juice is my lifting partner. No good can come out of a wife or gf knowing. I once told my wife in confidence her mom's brownies sucked. She immediately went and told her mom..her reason... "it's okay, my mom's cool." You think I'm going to tell her I juice, hell no, she seems to think she knows better than I. Keep em guessing!!
 
BigCracker said:
I'm not even gonna get started on you guys that lie to your gf out of fear of rejection or them dropping dime on you if you break up. It's your choice to put up with that shit just to keep a supply of ass around. Personally I'd rather get hit by a bus than be stuck with some bitch I had to hide my flaws from. But that's just me.

Now to answer the thread poster's question. I recommend new ass to get you over the old asss 1st and foremost. For lonlieness, buy a dog. I have 3 pits and whenever I take them to the park chicks come talk to me about them. So they kinda serve a dual purpose. Chicks seeing you with a dog tells them that bare minimum you are capable of keeping another animal alive-which shows soime sense of responsibility. Invest more time in the gym and on food prep. Anything that improves your physique will make you feel better about yourself. If you're still sitting around depressed, get X-box or something to try and keep your mind off her. Also if you live anywhere Tom Leykis is on the radio, listen to his show daily. You'll hear guys calling in that fucked themselves in their relationships so badly, your situation will seem pretty tame by comparison.
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You are a much wiser man than me... I keep getting suckered into relationships...
 
Sassy69 said:
Interesting stuff -- I feel for anyone who breaks up but sometimes its for the best. The worst part is not having that familiarity around you. But if there are fundamental differences in beliefs that exist that can't be discussed or compromised on, they will always permeate every part of the relationship. Then anything that is illegal is going to be up for grabs when it comes time to "exercising control" by one party or the other. I do find it interesting how illegal recreational drugs don't seem to be viewed as bad as AAS, but that reflects the awareness & tolerance level these days. But I suspect most fo the fear of AAS is from lack of knowledge. If there is no room for discussion, then it will be a point of contention that you have to either choose to hide, not do, or come clean with and go w/ whatever final decision she or you both make.

If your cycle is making a noticeable change in your disposition, then YOU need to acknowledge it and deal w/ it accordingly. Plenty of guys have acknowledged a significant change in demeanor while on tren for ex - so that something that may manifest itself in more fights w/ your g/f and she will then go after your AAS use and everything else. If you have already chosen to cycle, to cycle somethign that you can't handle or changes you that much while you have other people in your life is akin to claiming a "recreational drug habit" on something that you can't handle and you demonstrate that you can't handle it every time you go out.

The bipolar thing -- I lived w/ a girl who was bipolar in college - that was weird enough. I can't imagine the relationship too. I guess if you want that sort of "excitement" in your life ... ;)

There is no one way to handle all of this stuff -- a couple guys noted that "women are crazy" -- but I think its also legitimate to say that women do crazy things when they feel they've been hurt or screwed or if they feel like the relationship is goign down the drain - easier to create a big fat conflict than to deal w/ it. I'm not defendign that action at all - but I've seen guys do it just like girls do it. I guess there its a reflection of the degree of co-dependence / lack of self-confidence the person has.

And lastly, you are also dealing w/ situations where the lifestyle is different - if you are deeply into the gym culture which requires regular time inthe gym, diet, etc, there isn't a lot of room for people who don't also espouse that way of living. Trust me - I've lost plenty of friends during my own regional amateur competition prep. People dont' "get" why its so important that you get to shovel down meals at weird hours or why you are so pissed because you missed a cardio session. You may not have experienced the argument about why you hate yourself or even the other person for "allowing you' to eat the whole jar of peanut butter and now you'll be fat & bloaty for 2 days.... (that may be a girl thing..... :rolleyes: )

But just like girls have to deal w/ hormonal changes every month, guys + steroids = hormonal changes as well. These are all very fundamental things about each of us and it definitely adds a new dimension to us & our interactions w/ other people.

Definitely wish you all luck in your various situations. I would only ask that you recognize that cycles & PCT do affect your hormones and that how you feel or even what caused your break ups may have had something to do w/ that -- how you deal w/ it may be different to each of you, but at least if you are aware of it, you can learn better how to deal w/ it so it maybe doens't have catastrophic impact on your lives and the people around you.

:)
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Sassy+ Peanut Butter = :RADAR
 
I feel for you guys with bi-polar girls. Several of my friends are in such relationships, even abusive ones where the girl punches the dude in the face, etc when they argue. That shit is sickening. For me personally, I love my wife more than anything and we've been together for almost 12 years now. However I've always kept my gear usage from her. I've been close to getting caught on a few occasions, but I've always managed to keep it secret. It just would complicate things for no good reason. I'm responsible and educated enough to handle this on my own. If she knew she would just immediately react just as any person would who has been brainwashed by our media that steroids are bad news. Maybe someday I'll tell her, but things in our relationship couldn't be any better and I wouldn't want to chance fuckin shit up just so she could know I take gear from time to time.
 
prayers to obey, that is tough bro. I remember the first time I started juice, my buddy goes to me do you love your girlfriend. I said yes and he said to me that sucks because you'll break up in a few months. I said what the fuck are you talking about, sure enough he was right. These drugs do some wierd shit to relationships.
 
austin_nichols said:
Boy do I feel your pain. Same exact situation. Been with my wife 10 years and she too is bipolar. I know your hell. The ONLY person that absolutely knows I juice is my lifting partner. No good can come out of a wife or gf knowing. I once told my wife in confidence her mom's brownies sucked. She immediately went and told her mom..her reason... "it's okay, my mom's cool." You think I'm going to tell her I juice, hell no, she seems to think she knows better than I. Keep em guessing!!
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What's it like dating someone thats got an everyday pass to freak out at random? Dating a stable minded girl is challenging enough. I don't know how you guys can justify staying with someone that can't control their emotions. To me, love just wouldn't be enough-especially when there's plenty of girls out there that won't superglue your dick to your stomach if/when she gets mad at you.

And how does it feel to be in a relationship where you live in daily fear that your woman will find out your dirty little steroid secret? Won't the repercussions be much worse when she learns she has been lied to and betrayed? She may start questioning your whole relationship-if you're lying about AAS how does she know you're not lying about something else? Like fucking your ex gf you talk to on the phone once every 6 months or ????
 
instant.muscle said:
jeezum bro, you her and famalies r in my prayers, i couldnt imagine how hard that could be, me and my fiance after 3 years just split and it sucks, i mean really sucks
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what went wrong????
 
looking to lean said:
i dont know why anyone would juice and not tell there gf. if you cant tell the person that you are supposed to be closest to, then maybe you need a new gf or none at all. not trying to slam anyone here.... IMO it seems like hiding it would to harder to accomplish than just being honest.
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that does not work for everyone.....
 
Well, I wasn't going to talk about this here but here goes. I have been with the same girl on and off for the last four years. We were extremely close, I thought of her as my wife. Before I ever got on my cycle we would get in pretty heated fights. She is naturally very temperamental and had a hard time ever being wrong. Usually I would just back down from a fight and let her be right, it was just much easier that way. She knew everything about my use. She was very interested in everything I was learning, to a point. She would get annoyed when all I would talk about was aas. But, as much as I talked about it, I kinda annoyed myself. Things were awesome about 95% of the time, the other time was spent fighting.

A couple of weeks ago we went out with some friends to party. We were having a great time all night and both got pretty drunk. At the end of the night, she started accusing me of doing something that I didn't do. She wouldn't lay off, so it turned into an argument. After a while of arguing, she was pissed enough to slap me once. So, since I had to be a tough guy, I laughed and told her to do it again. After about five slaps later, I was done. I, for the first time, yelled at her in a very intimidating way. I was PISSED. So, she decided to yell to everyone around that the reason we were fighting was because I was on steroids. She told all of our friends and really broke trust.

After all of this, I realized that even though you truly trust someone with your secret, don't tell them unless you are prepared to deal with the consequences of them telling others. After the smoke cleared, I'm glad all of this happened. We NEEDED to be done and this was a great catalyst. I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, but I know things will get better and there are so many girls out there. My therapy is looking at the pics of the pics of women board.

Through all of this, it's been kinda hard to get motivated to get into the gym. But, once I get there, I have plenty to think about that will help get me fired up to lift like a madman. I always feel awesome after a great workout.

Actually, with all of the attention I've been getting when I go out, this might be the best summer I've had in years!!
 
instant.muscle said:
anyone ever about 2 start a cycle, in the middle of or at the end of a cycle have relationship problem, for example me and my fiance splitting up, how did yall deal with it?
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I've had to abandon cycles before due to out side problems like family issues.
 
looking to lean said:
my first and only cycle, my 'ex' hated me doing juice. she flipped out almost everyday. if you knew her, that wouldnt be hard to believe. she actually threw my box of gear across the room, breaking a few vials..... nice. then came at me with a knife. :D

she got so crazy that I set up a camera for when I was away to see wtf she was doing in my absence. I actually caught her STEALING from me!!!! I figured if she didnt make me 'rage' then nothing could...

I booted her out that night... she showed up the next day with her new boyfriend, that she was moving in with. hahah...

Im really sorry to hear that Obey.... dont want to sound insensitive, but wheres a car accident for MY ex? someone that truely deserves it.
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Dodged a bullet there did you not?
 
narshh said:
Dodged a bullet there did you not?
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dodged a bullet and my life got instantly better. New super hot gf. New business thats done nothing but make money. and a hightened willingness to improve myself on every level.

Interesting how something so simple is so hard for some.
 
BigCracker said:
What's it like dating someone thats got an everyday pass to freak out at random? Dating a stable minded girl is challenging enough. I don't know how you guys can justify staying with someone that can't control their emotions. To me, love just wouldn't be enough-especially when there's plenty of girls out there that won't superglue your dick to your stomach if/when she gets mad at you.

And how does it feel to be in a relationship where you live in daily fear that your woman will find out your dirty little steroid secret? Won't the repercussions be much worse when she learns she has been lied to and betrayed? She may start questioning your whole relationship-if you're lying about AAS how does she know you're not lying about something else? Like fucking your ex gf you talk to on the phone once every 6 months or ????
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You and I have gone back and forth on this before. Bottom line is, you havent been in a similar situation and youre just goin around bashing bros that currently are. The simplest way I can put it is, you can kiss my fuckin ass BC.

Its not your place to tell me or anyone else what is and what is not appropriate in their marriage or relationship. Thats my(their) job. Last time I checked you werent Dr Ruth. So quit bashing everyone left and fuckin right who doesnt have a full disclosure agreement with their significant other, or who happens to be in a relationship with someone who has a mental dissorder.

You realize there are people out there with mental dissorders, right? I chose to marry a person who has one because I care for her deeply. Thats my choice. So go fuck yourself for repeatedly knocking it like your Dr. Fuckin Phil man.

I dont go through daily paranoia thinking "OMG WHAT IF THE WIFEY FINDS MY STASH TODAY??!?!". Like I've said, we've talked about it and she said she wouldnt mind me doing gear at all because im not a fucking idiot and wouldnt do anything to hurt myself. I just feel its best if I keep it to myself. Thats my own personal choice. You choose to live your life a different way than that, and you dont see anyone else on this board trying to tear you down for it. Be a supportive bro and not such a cocksucker man. Fuckin fuck...
 
instant.muscle said:
she said she wanted 2 experience more of life before she decided if she really wnated 2 get married
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Let me decipeher this for you

:goes to get Woman to man language translator:

:Ahem: here goes "Im fucking some other guy"


the end

and thats why I dont do 2 shows in one night


Again, its EERIE how much that resembles the EXACCT words my ex-fiance told me. I bet she said something how she is "happy" and just want to be "happy" all the time right? sheesh, its always the same bro. :coffee:
 
immortalis said:
You and I have gone back and forth on this before. Bottom line is, you havent been in a similar situation and youre just goin around bashing bros that currently are. The simplest way I can put it is, you can kiss my fuckin ass BC.

Its not your place to tell me or anyone else what is and what is not appropriate in their marriage or relationship. Thats my(their) job. Last time I checked you werent Dr Ruth. So quit bashing everyone left and fuckin right who doesnt have a full disclosure agreement with their significant other, or who happens to be in a relationship with someone who has a mental dissorder.

You realize there are people out there with mental dissorders, right? I chose to marry a person who has one because I care for her deeply. Thats my choice. So go fuck yourself for repeatedly knocking it like your Dr. Fuckin Phil man.

I dont go through daily paranoia thinking "OMG WHAT IF THE WIFEY FINDS MY STASH TODAY??!?!". Like I've said, we've talked about it and she said she wouldnt mind me doing gear at all because im not a fucking idiot and wouldnt do anything to hurt myself. I just feel its best if I keep it to myself. Thats my own personal choice. You choose to live your life a different way than that, and you dont see anyone else on this board trying to tear you down for it. Be a supportive bro and not such a cocksucker man. Fuckin fuck...
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OK, I'll kiss your ass because I require a relationship with complete honesty and I just happen to set my personal standards higher than yours. BFD. Whatever. You're so used to drama and roller coaster ride relationships that if you were in a healthy, honest, meaningful relationship devoid of secrets/white lies that isn't blurred with mental dysfunction/neurosis and anti psych/depressant drugs you'd likely feel like something was missing.

Hooray-you care for her-but anyone that cares about someone else more than they care about themselves is a moron pretending to be a martyr. Your relationship isn't even a relationship-it's only fear based brain impulses that keep you two clinging to each other out of desperation. Both of your lives by most people's definition are a train wreck, but if you're willing to accept it as fate-there's nothing anyone can say or do to make you two feel differently. Maybe that's why you seem so perfect for each other and you become so defensive?

Personally I want someone to love me as-is-including my imperfections. However if I were so far gone mentally, or regularly using Rx drugs to keep me from freaking out, I wouldn't expect anyone to give me a 100% in a relationship cuz even if I was their physically, emotionally I'm still miles away.

And FYI-I wasn't ripping on anyone. I simply want to know how someone can justify such self destructive behavior over a piece of ass.
 
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Wulfgar said:
Let me decipeher this for you

:goes to get Woman to man language translator:

:Ahem: here goes "Im fucking some other guy"


the end

and thats why I dont do 2 shows in one night


Again, its EERIE how much that resembles the EXACCT words my ex-fiance told me. I bet she said something how she is "happy" and just want to be "happy" all the time right? sheesh, its always the same bro. :coffee:
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she pretty much said that i have been different and being treating her like shit and ignoring her, i dont kno how true it is and she said that if i am going 2 do that she is going 2 go have fun and experience life
 
instant.muscle said:
she pretty much said that i have been different and being treating her like shit and ignoring her, i dont kno how true it is and she said that if i am going 2 do that she is going 2 go have fun and experience life
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Bro...have you been? it doesnt seem like you were to me
it took me a long time to comes to term with it too. Its amazing the betrayal human beings are capable of.
If I were you I would confront her about cheating. She will try and deny it to her grave but trust me, if you want to know she will break down if you push her hard enough. She will get pissed and tell you all kinds of stupid BS reasons. It hurts like a motherfucker and it hurts worse when they admit it. Im not sure why I always wanted to know so bad each time it happened.

After all was said and done they all(without exception jsut kept going back to "I just want to have fun and experience life". every single fucking one. Ego is the same, it is selfish and doesnt care who it hurts to get its way. Seems to me your girl has went down this path, probably found a guy she was interested in, he knew how to manipulate her, she got horny and fucked him and now she has to blame you and treat you like shit in order to justify her transgressions agaisnt you.
 
Whats she's basically saying is its not me its you, your the reason why I dont want to get married. Screw that dude, like I said earlier there's to many women out there to have worry about one, get yourself another lady but this time dont fall in love.
 
instant.muscle said:
she pretty much said that i have been different and being treating her like shit and ignoring her, i dont kno how true it is and she said that if i am going 2 do that she is going 2 go have fun and experience life
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People are like monkeys bro-they don't let go of one branch until they have a firm grip on another.

Chances are she wouldn't have the balls to say that to you if she didn't have another guy she's banging(or at least eyeballing for a bang)on the back burner.
 
Wulfgar said:
Bro...have you been? it doesnt seem like you were to me
it took me a long time to comes to term with it too. Its amazing the betrayal human beings are capable of.
If I were you I would confront her about cheating. She will try and deny it to her grave but trust me, if you want to know she will break down if you push her hard enough. She will get pissed and tell you all kinds of stupid BS reasons. It hurts like a motherfucker and it hurts worse when they admit it. Im not sure why I always wanted to know so bad each time it happened.

After all was said and done they all(without exception jsut kept going back to "I just want to have fun and experience life". every single fucking one. Ego is the same, it is selfish and doesnt care who it hurts to get its way. Seems to me your girl has went down this path, probably found a guy she was interested in, he knew how to manipulate her, she got horny and fucked him and now she has to blame you and treat you like shit in order to justify her transgressions agaisnt you.
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i agree with this, happened to me also bro 2 or 3 times. sucks but what can u do.
 
People are like monkeys bro-they don't let go of one branch until they have a firm grip on another
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learned this along time ago - not with a cheating woman but in general. watch people for their motivations. people mask true intentions with anger, lies, and deceit because these elements confuse people and cause introspective thinking. once your tied up in your own head you'll miss the biggest clues to those lying and cheating you.
 
timtim said:
learned this along time ago - not with a cheating woman but in general. watch people for their motivations. people mask true intentions with anger, lies, and deceit because these elements confuse people and cause introspective thinking. once your tied up in your own head you'll miss the biggest clues to those lying and cheating you.
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The sad part is when you finally figure this out. You're whole outlook on the world changes... and for a lot of people it's a reality they can't handle.

I try never to expect much out of anyone. This way I'm never too disappointed when they fuck me over.
 
I don't know, for me its been completely different. To the best of my knowledge the women I've been involved with have never fucked around on me if there was one I never knew about it.

As far as confronting her about cheating why? What purpose would it serve? Its not going to take away the pain if anything IMO its going to add to it. If I were in instant muscle's shoes I'd stay as far away from the bitch as possible .

When it comes to a relationship men and women are completely different. From my experiences women don't need to go from one branch to another what they do need is closure if its over its over that's it! Whereas men for the most part closure means not being able to tap that ass every now and then so we as men like to keep that door open just for that reason. What I've learned over the years is most women need time to get over a relationship, they need time to heal but we as men find its easier to get over a woman by finding another one to take her place.

The one thing I have always done when I get involved with a woman and it looks like its going to be a monogamous relationship I'll tell her if there's ever a time they want to spend time with someone else tell me before they do it. I'm not going to beg, I'm not going to cry, I'm going to move on with my life because if they don't tell me sooner or later I'm going to find out about it anyway and the end result is going to be the same, in other words treat me the way you want to be treated.
 
At this point if she perceives that you've changed and she can't vocalize what specifically - either you actually have changed or she's just making excuses for a side guy. In my experience women can legitimately get turned off by somethign that may just not seem right - then you wonder is this what this guy is REALLY like? That's where it becomes a point of perception - if you aren't aware of anything that has changed about you, then you would suspect her of lying / cheating / whatever. And again, I don't know so I can't guess if she's actually looking for an out due another guy or maybe you are different to her and she isn't ready to dive into a marriage in a situation that makes her uncomfortable and possibly you don't even acknowledge.

It doesn't always have to be another guy so dont' spend all of your efforts suspecting her of something. At least take the time to explore what is bothering her and see if you perceive the same "changes" or whatever she says is different. This goes directly striaght back to the critica need for open communication because as soon as there's somethign tht is either never spoken or is voiced and not 'heard', one person, then the other will start to back into a shell -- i.e. when it feels like "us" just became "you" and "me".
 
well we both went thru a big ordeal in Katrina losing all our belongings so maybe its good i found out now before we got married, i wanna thank all of u that helped me with this and if i could i would karma all but on this new karma thing i got none left
 
Wow that sux. I"m sorry to hear that. Shit, to be honest, even that could have huge impact on what she "wants out of life" and what she's been thru - as well as you.
 
relationships are tough for the toughest of guys. I like whoever said that we just aren't equipped to handle or deal with that shit, that is very true.
 
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