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chazk

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this guy swears he is 17% bf or less and once even said he looked to be 13% bf when he flexed...

I think he is around 25%+
look at the water and fat on the face and fat on the inner bi's with no definition....he also claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a yera and a half
shooting from 135lbs to just over 200lbs

lets get some honest feedback.....I know the old saying is "you can't fix stupid " but maybe one day stupid can relize he was being stupid and not be quit so stupid.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4d3hvh2.jpg
 
my ava is ~~ 13-15% couple years ago. no way in hell. sorry m8

as for what it actually is.... i cannot say but def. closer to 19-20
 
chazk said:
this guy swears he is 17% bf or less and once even said he looked to be 13% bf when he flexed...

I think he is around 25%+
look at the water and fat on the face and fat on the inner bi's with no definition....he also claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a yera and a half
shooting from 135lbs to just over 200lbs

lets get some honest feedback.....I know the old saying is "you can't fix stupid " but maybe one day stupid can relize he was being stupid and not be quit so stupid.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4d3hvh2.jpg
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so if i get what your saying he is "stupid" for claiming that he is a different bodyfat then what you think he is....well to me thats pretty stupid in and of itself, why do you care what bodyfat he is regardless of what he says...

another thing i dont get is you say how he claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a year and half again this screams who gives a shit to me, i say great job bro if he did in fact go from 135 to 200lbs no matter the length of time that it may have taken and no matter if some may be fat and not all muscle....

in my estimation the kid put on muscle and is trying to do things "right" and whether he is 25% bf or 85% bf, i say keep up the good work....
 
boops said:
so if i get what your saying he is "stupid" for claiming that he is a different bodyfat then what you think he is....well to me thats pretty stupid in and of itself, why do you care what bodyfat he is regardless of what he says...

another thing i dont get is you say how he claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a year and half again this screams who gives a shit to me, i say great job bro if he did i fact go from 135 to 200lbs no matter the length of time that it may have taken and no matter if some may be fat and not all muscle....

in my estimation the kid put on muscle and is trying to do things "right" and whether he is 25% bf or 85% bf, i say keep up the good work....
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uhm ok slight exageration but i feel what your saying. although, as i understand it, the idea of going to the gym is to put on MUSCLE not FAT, so when your gains turn out to be mostly water/fat or at least a poor ratio thereof, you are failing in that endeavour.
 
boops said:
so if i get what your saying he is "stupid" for claiming that he is a different bodyfat then what you think he is....well to me thats pretty stupid in and of itself, why do you care what bodyfat he is regardless of what he says...

another thing i dont get is you say how he claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a year and half again this screams who gives a shit to me, i say great job bro if he did i fact go from 135 to 200lbs no matter the length of time that it may have taken and no matter if some may be fat and not all muscle....

in my estimation the kid put on muscle and is trying to do things "right" and whether he is 25% bf or 85% bf, i say keep up the good work....
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he made a comment in the poll on muscle gains impleying that every ounce he gained was muscle ....i told him he did do a great job bulking but dont get confused thinking the more you weigh the better.... this kid says he wants to step on stage with in the next few years and be a professional bodybuilder..
as to your comment about some one going from 135lbs to over 200lbs in any lenght of time... that makes nosense at all women go from 135lbs to over 200lbs in a few years after they get married and that nothing to be proud of.
It when the girls relize that its fat and lose it to get lean again is where the pride comes in not trying to lie to your sefl and say " oh its all muscle"
then your just a let down ..Yg's needs to man up and relize he is not gods gift to bodybuilding and did not gain 50+ of muscle in the first year and a half acting as if he is the next arnold .
 
chazk said:
this guy swears he is 17% bf or less and once even said he looked to be 13% bf when he flexed...

I think he is around 25%+
look at the water and fat on the face and fat on the inner bi's with no definition....he also claims to have gained 50lbs of muscle in a yera and a half
shooting from 135lbs to just over 200lbs

lets get some honest feedback.....I know the old saying is "you can't fix stupid " but maybe one day stupid can relize he was being stupid and not be quit so stupid.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4d3hvh2.jpg
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i would say somewhere around or over 20% bf bro
 
digit0x said:
uhm ok slight exageration but i feel what your saying. although, as i understand it, the idea of going to the gym is to put on MUSCLE not FAT, so when your gains turn out to be mostly water/fat or at least a poor ratio thereof, you are failing in that endeavour.
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well alright so your saying that when the pros "bulk" they dont put on fat lol ever see an old pic of lee priest shit bud i know when i bulk i gain fat so im failing in my weight lifting endeavour according to you, in any event this kid wont be a bodybuilding god at any point...just as you and i most likely wont either but you cant say he isnt trying whether or not you all feel that he is an "overconfident" and or cocky ass....
 
It's easy to rip on pretty much anyone around here for any number of things, so what's the point?

The kid looks great for being natural. Given his age and stuff, his attitude isn't all that surprising to me.

I hope he learns as much as he can from around here and pushes himself as far as he can.



:cow:
 
xrsist said:
and most of us think he is a fuckin idiot
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in a place you have so many members your going to have a wide array of personalities and your going to have people you feel are "off" but the way i see it we all do this for our own "reasons" and i try to not knock people who try and do what we all do regardless of their personality and how it may or may not differ from what i think is right or wrong....

and we all watch the news and read the papers and ask ourselves why the fuck society is like it as, perhaps this simple statement above is evidence of why we are the way we are....just a thought
 
boops said:
well alright so your saying that when the pros "bulk" they dont put on fat lol ever see an old pic of lee priest shit bud i know when i bulk i gain fat so im failing in my weight lifting endeavour according to you, in any event this kid wont be a bodybuilding god at any point...just as you and i most likely wont either but you cant say he isnt trying whether or not you all feel that he is an "overconfident" and or cocky ass....
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most pros bulk and dont go running around saying they still look 13% bf at that point they dont give a shit...
your not failing the weightgain endeavor if your bulking your just failing when you think its all muscle ..YG is trying i give him that much neverless he needs to be aware of his body and the "truth will set him free" once he relizes BF% he can change it untill then its hopeless becuase according to him he just

all Yg has to say is " i dont know its not important I'm bulking at this point some is fat some is muscle" But no he says its muscle big bad to the bone muscle and that part is a crock
 
boops said:
well alright so your saying that when the pros "bulk" they dont put on fat lol ever see an old pic of lee priest shit bud i know when i bulk i gain fat so im failing in my weight lifting endeavour according to you, in any event this kid wont be a bodybuilding god at any point...just as you and i most likely wont either but you cant say he isnt trying whether or not you all feel that he is an "overconfident" and or cocky ass....
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How the FUCK do you know? Anyone who says I am the worst or the best are complete morons. You don't know. If I was trainging for 5 years, with AAS and shit, then a more reliable opinion would come out. Never say you know anything about me "boops" buddy I came into the gym a weak tiny little girl, and now I'm a beast for my age and training time. Just shut the fuck up, if I'm so worthless why must there be countless threads about me. I will prove myself in years to come, to which all your replys will be "he's on more juice then this and that". Grow some balls folks, I will be the next big thing ;). Look out Trey.
 
samoth said:
It's easy to rip on pretty much anyone around here for any

I hope he learns as much as he can from around here and pushes himself as far as he can.



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he does not learn he knows everything already before he even stepped onto elite I have given him solid advice how to change his body with out drugs and all he cares about is a few months away when he can get on a cycle ...so he can " blow up"
ignoring the diet advice everyone gives him and claiming he is ready for a cycle is utter bullshit....

I just wanted some honest bf guesses so he can know what needs to be done wether to keep bulking or start cutting...Yg cant figure out what he wants to do but step on stage ..
 
i'll give him credit for going to 135 to 202.at 135 any kind of weight you put on is good weight. shit i was 140 when i graduated high school.He got some nice lats, but i will agree that he is in the range of 20% or so BF. He is holding some water in his face, same happens to my face when i bulk. i'll give him props for making a dramatic change in a short period of time.
 
chazk said:
most pros bulk and dont go running around saying they still look 13% bf at that point they dont give a shit...
your not failing the weightgain endeavor if your bulking your just failing when you think its all muscle ..YG is trying i give him that much neverless he needs to be aware of his body and the "truth will set him free" once he relizes BF% he can change it untill then its hopeless becuase according to him he just

all Yg has to say is " i dont know its not important I'm bulking at this point some is fat some is muscle" But no he says its muscle big bad to the bone muscle and that part is a crock
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i still dont see why he has to say anything to anyone on this board to have peoples approval lol now thats a crock, if you seek peoples approval on the internet then you need help...at least thats what i think....this kid posted a true pic of himself, to me he needs no approval to continue on this "journey" that is bodybuilding besides as i said progress is progress...
 
hey boops go back to page one where you tried to defend him ? he told you to shut the fuck up and you know nothing boops....

geeze the only guy that tried to help young guns out gets told to fuck off ..

boops how does that make you feel " shut the fuck up" from young guns?
 
youngguns said:
How the FUCK do you know? Anyone who says I am the worst or the best are complete morons. You don't know. If I was trainging for 5 years, with AAS and shit, then a more reliable opinion would come out. Never say you know anything about me "boops" buddy I came into the gym a weak tiny little girl, and now I'm a beast for my age and training time. Just shut the fuck up, if I'm so worthless why must there be countless threads about me. I will prove myself in years to come, to which all your replys will be "he's on more juice then this and that". Grow some balls folks, I will be the next big thing ;). Look out Trey.
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hope you are the next big thing bud and again keep up the good work
 
chazk said:
hey boops go back to page one where you tried to defend him ? he told you to shut the fuck up and you know nothing boops....

geeze the only guy that tried to help young guns out gets told to fuck off ..

boops how does that make you feel " shut the fuck up" from young guns?
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lol im a prison guard bud to me shut the fuck up is a good day :)
 
boops said:
hope you are the next big thing bud and again keep up the good work
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Originally Posted by boops
well alright so your saying that when the pros "bulk" they dont put on fat lol ever see an old pic of lee priest shit bud i know when i bulk i gain fat so im failing in my weight lifting endeavour according to you, in any event this kid wont be a bodybuilding god at any point...just as you and i most likely wont either but you cant say he isnt trying whether or not you all feel that he is an "overconfident" and or cocky ass....


How the FUCK do you know? Anyone who says I am the worst or the best are complete morons. You don't know. If I was trainging for 5 years, with AAS and shit, then a more reliable opinion would come out. Never say you know anything about me "boops" buddy I came into the gym a weak tiny little girl, and now I'm a beast for my age and training time. Just shut the fuck up, if I'm so worthless why must there be countless threads about me. I will prove myself in years to come, to which all your replys will be "he's on more juice then this and that". Grow some balls folks, I will be the next big thing . Look out Trey.
 
I think 17% would be a fair assessment just guesstimating off looks. That's a hell of a transformation on his part too.
 
pentatonic said:
I think 17% would be a fair assessment just guesstimating off looks. That's a hell of a transformation on his part too.
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it really is he did a great job of building a foundation lats are remarkable for his age and time training...I really think if he trims down with cardio to get his stanima up a bit ,then hits that cycle in a few months he could surprise us all ...and could turn out to be a big thing by age 21
 
boops said:
well alright so your saying that when the pros "bulk" they dont put on fat lol ever see an old pic of lee priest shit bud i know when i bulk i gain fat so im failing in my weight lifting endeavour according to you, in any event this kid wont be a bodybuilding god at any point...just as you and i most likely wont either but you cant say he isnt trying whether or not you all feel that he is an "overconfident" and or cocky ass....
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i never said or implied pros or anyone for that matter 'don't put on fat while bulking'. what i did say is when your muscle gained to fat gained ratio approaches 1:1, your LOSING ground and are no longer just bulking, your getting fat. im sure he is trying and that isn't in debate.

personally, ill never 'bulk' like that. water in water out. big whoop you look like a heffer on her period for a few weeks... but if thats your style amen. ill take lean gains anyday.
 
digit0x said:
i never said or implied pros or anyone for that matter 'don't put on fat while bulking'. what i did say is when your muscle gained to fat gained ratio approaches 1:1, your LOSING ground and are no longer just bulking, your getting fat. im sure he is trying and that isn't in debate.

personally, ill never 'bulk' like that. water in water out. big whoop you look like a heffer on her period for a few weeks... but if thats your style amen. ill take lean gains anyday.
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get where your coming from, still dont think the kid is fat compared to the morbid obesity that is running ramapant through out the country....jumping from 135 to 200 is gonna have some added "fat", cutting is the next step for the kid and im sure he will get it down after sometime and "HELP" from our "community".....
 
youngguns said:
How the FUCK do you know? Anyone who says I am the worst or the best are complete morons. You don't know. If I was trainging for 5 years, with AAS and shit, then a more reliable opinion would come out. Never say you know anything about me "boops" buddy I came into the gym a weak tiny little girl, and now I'm a beast for my age and training time. Just shut the fuck up, if I'm so worthless why must there be countless threads about me. I will prove myself in years to come, to which all your replys will be "he's on more juice then this and that". Grow some balls folks, I will be the next big thing ;). Look out Trey.
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uhm i think hes deffending you dude.
 
boops said:
get where your coming from, still dont think the kid is fat compared to the morbid obesity that is running ramapant through out the country....jumping from 135 to 200 is gonna have some added "fat", cutting is the next step for the kid and im sure he will get it down after sometime and "HELP" from our "community".....
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never said he was fat.
 
I still give young guns more credit than that 22 y/o that came on here with pics and everyone told him he looked like arnold after running 2g of gear. He didnt impress me all that much.
 
digit0x said:
never said he was fat.
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lol alright bud i said i get where your coming from what more are you looking for......you did say something to the effect that "when the fat to muscle ratio is 1:1 your getting fat" so then i went on to give my OPINION that he isnt fat and i never said anything about you saying the kid was fat....

your in it for the lean gains so why not give the kid some leaning out tips instead of busting his balls.......in any event karma to you
 
boops youngguns already told you to " shut the fuck up" why are you still talking cant you listen ?I mean take a order!!!!
 
boops said:
lol alright bud i said i get where your coming from what more are you looking for......you did say something to the effect that "when the fat to muscle ratio is 1:1 your getting fat" so then i went on to give my OPINION that he isnt fat and i never said anything about you saying the kid was fat....

your in it for the lean gains so why not give the kid some leaning out tips instead of busting his balls.......in any event karma to you
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you said that i said that i meant to say what you thought i said.

:p
 
chazk said:
boops youngguns already told you to " shut the fuck up" why are you still talking cant you listen ?I mean take a order!!!!
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and i told you above that with me working in a prison having someone just say "shut the fuck up" to me is quite a good day and if i listened to all of the "orders" i got in a days work i ummmm wouldnt be a very good C/O now would i
 
Why start a post just to prove YG wrong?
Are we that infintile around here anymore?
YG, if you didn't have such an attitude then people wouldn't be so condicending towards you.
 
Mac173 said:
Why start a post just to prove YG wrong?
Are we that infintile around here anymore?
YG, if you didn't have such an attitude then people wouldn't be so condicending towards you.
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couldnt agree more, certainly not like the good ol days
 
2cents for ya.........i have seen better physiques at 19 from peeps that never lifted or dieted. i see about 10 YG's everytime i walk into the gym, some on gear some not. i thot yg looked better at 135. but who knows yg could be the next big thing. alot of the could is up to him. BTW anything over 20% BF is considered obese
 
tonyroma said:
what kind of a fuckin name is "Boops"
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I know the field he is in quite well and my guess would be its bops but he added an extra o meaning buero {sp} of prisons its federal prisons.. and he is a corrections officer there...
 
Youngguns size gain is impressive for only 18 months regardless if its fat/muscle. Obviously he's got the ability to rip up the kitchen and the gym. These threads bashing YG are getting really fuggin played out and old.

1. YG is young and has many years to improve his physique
2. YG is more educated about lifting and dieting than 1/2 the people here
3. YG hasn't used steroids
4. YG has the balls to post pics and vids of himself regardless of what people think--- more than I can say for 90% of the folks here
5. YG won't disrespect you if you don't talk down on him

Its good to give advice to people when they have questions, but if you dog somebody for how they look when they ask a question its pathetic on your part. If you got the balls to type something bad about him then have the balls to post pics yourself so we can all see what YOUR working with.
 
Looks like 18% to me... not sure why you guys are busting his balls.

Just stay with it YG. I told ya a few weeks back just to watch how you come across to people bro, hope you're taking my advice.
 
tonyroma said:
what kind of a fuckin name is "Boops"
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probably the same thing as tonyroma, now im not that smart and dont pretend to be but im gonna go out on a limb here and say its nothing but a mere handle for a message board..... :)
 
youngguns said:
How the FUCK do you know? Anyone who says I am the worst or the best are complete morons. You don't know. If I was trainging for 5 years, with AAS and shit, then a more reliable opinion would come out. Never say you know anything about me "boops" buddy I came into the gym a weak tiny little girl, and now I'm a beast for my age and training time. Just shut the fuck up, if I'm so worthless why must there be countless threads about me. I will prove myself in years to come, to which all your replys will be "he's on more juice then this and that". Grow some balls folks, I will be the next big thing ;). Look out Trey.
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You have definitely put on some serious weight fast, hence the stretch marks. Next time I would keep it cleaner and try not to gain as much water and fat cause you're just gonna have to drop it all when you cut up so what's the point? It's good though cause it will give you some experience and knowledge to keep shaping your physique. Those stretchys are another reason you don't want to bulk so fast. They're there for life son! So you're claiming to be natty?
 
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