Reality check: From the very first time you started roids to now....

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From the very first time you used roids until now, how much gains would you say youve KEPT? Be honest please

 

[dabuffguy]

I've been off everything for quite a few months and am at an all time size and weight and strength. 8 lbs more than m heaviest while on including water. No water now, so am probably 12 lean pounds heavier.

so, i have not necessarily kept all the gains I made while on, but I have improved upon them by training smarter and dieting better.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Good question but so hard to answer. There are too many factors -- age, amount of cycles, years training prior to juicing, time off in-between cycles, commitment to training while off cycle, etc. So many guys don't reach their natural potential before using roids so how much did the roids help? Impossible to say. Even if the person answers honestly, in their mid, it may not be accurate.

I think it's possible to add maybe 10-15 pounds of actual muscle tissue from gear over the course of a couple of years and keep them. Anything over that is either maintain by continued cycles or was mass that would have been obtained naturally or it's fat.

 

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Yes, there are many factors but I just wanted a bottom line answer and kept it simple in the poll. I thought it was an interesting question and i dont know if its ever been put to a poll on here before. Im sure it makes some uncomfortable to answer. I didnt want to know who "would have" or "could have" kept gains if xyz happened. I simply wanted to know what the ultimate bottom line of gains that have been kept from the time they first picked up a roid until now. Because thats the reality and all that matters.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

I think it's possible to add maybe 10-15 pounds of actual muscle tissue from gear over the course of a couple of years and keep them. Anything over that is either maintain by continued cycles or was mass that would have been obtained naturally or it's fat.

..I'll buy that for a dollar

 

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I think it's possible to add maybe 10-15 pounds of actual muscle tissue from gear over the course of a couple of years and keep them. Anything over that is either maintain by continued cycles or was mass that would have been obtained naturally or it's fat.

So youre saying its impossible to add mass above your bodys natural limit and keep it without continued cycling? Since it would have been obtained naturally anyhow?

 

[Nelson Montana]

So youre saying its impossible to add mass above your bodys natural limit and keep it without continued cycling? Since it would have been obtained naturally anyhow?

No, I'm saying you can go 10-15 lbs beyond your natural limit, but that's about as much as you can hold naturally afterward.

 

[KeepinMyGains]

No, I'm saying you can go 10-15 lbs beyond your natural limit, but that's about as much as you can hold naturally afterward.

Gotta agree on that one. Look at body builders who where huge and when they came out where sucked up.

 

[dabuffguy]

Gotta agree on that one. Look at body builders who where huge and when they came out where sucked up.

Yeah, they lose tons of mass, but you can still tell that they used to be big time lifters. And it's not that they necesarrilly look huge, but there muscles just look different. The vascularity sometimes stays, and the muscle just looks very strong mature.

I could point out guys that used to be huge mofos that now are normal sized just by looking at their arms.


I dunno what my post has to do with the topic, lol.

 

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well that works out for me since all i want to gain is 20 more pounds tops anyhow. im pretty sure im at my "homeostasis" weight right now since i havent doen any working out or dieting in about 4 years so i definetely know what my baseline is.