ZKaudio said:omg i would go nutter. That is one act I will never have any sympathy for. Rapist should be beaten to death with spatulas.
sk* said:
You know what's fucked up? Pretty much every girl i've gotten close with, i've found out that she was once raped ... once even by her father and a second time by her stepfather. The rest were all somehow physically abused at home.
WTF is going on here?
How can you look in the mirror after something like this? At least, with murder, there can be a motive. BUT rape???
-sk
sk* said:How can you call yourself a man after something like this?
I just found out some asshole raped my ex about a year ago. He is gonna have a nice surprise when he gets out of jail.
-sk
supernav said:Rape is bad.
Unless you're Kobe Bryant. In which case, she asked for it, and is a gold-digger.
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PCxPete said:they reckon over 50%-70% of all rapes go unreported
violence is not my bag but i think i could make exceptions
The Terminator said:I know of two guys who sexually assaulted a very close friend of mine...They are both in prison now (where they are MUCH safer...even as sex offenders....) When they get out...I'll probably have to disappear from this board forever...
sk* said:
I know what you mean.
-sk
supernav said:I ask:
What kind of rape was it. Guy jumping out of the bushes kinda rape. Or rape where him and her were gettin' it on, then she started backing out while both were almost naked, and he got a couple extra couple minutes of feels in. She got pissed, and yelled rape.
I ask, cuz a few court cases went to the jury to decide when does it stop being consensual sex, and becomes rape. And who do you believe? Since she's already consented to getting naked and allowing her privates to get touched. Does he stop immediately, allowed a couple minutes to plead? 3 minutes later? Very tough legal decisions, and how do you decide who to believe when no one was there?
I really hope someone didn't get beat up from the latter. Guy jumping out of the bushes scenario is DEFINATE fucking rape, and deserves his head kicked in.
That's why i support Tyson. She admitted bringing Tyson to her room, making out with him, and getting naked. Tyson got sent to jail cuz he "didn't stop in time".
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thats exactly it...well said- How and why would you want to continue with a woman who does not want you any more at that point??? to me and most normal healthy men- the act of sex is for private intimacy and /or an exchange of feelings and expression between one another.....Rape is violence and control issues..it is not an act of sexual intimacy at all....thx9000 said:
It stops being consensual when one the of the parties decides they don’t want to proceed any further and says so. There isn’t some sexual law of inertia that implies you get an extra couple of minutes. This is pretty simple shit.
sk* said:Did you jackasses actually question what I said?
Shut the fuck up already.
She dumped him, he got angry, raped her.
End of story.
-sk
supernav said:>This is pretty simple shit.
No. The hard part is *proving* it in court. These cases are harder to prosecute, cuz they legally are at the stage of being naked in bed. Now that next 3 minutes or whatever is what constitutes a crime. But how do you prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? What if the semen on her, came from her during the "consensual" part? What part of the sex was during the consensual part, and what part wasn't consensual? If the person was under the influence, does he get an extra 2 minutes? What if she changed her mind 2 or 3 times during that exchange?
Those cases are much harder to prosecute, any lawyer will tell you. Fortunately, these only make up a small % of rapes (date rapes). Most rapes are still the types of rapes we envision in our head. The violent, rip off her clothes, smack her, rape her -- type rapes.
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supernav said:[B. Fortunately, these only make up a small % of rapes (date rapes). Most rapes are still the types of rapes we envision in our head. The violent, rip off her clothes, smack her, rape her -- type rapes.
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The Terminator said:
I think date rapes make up a MUCH larger percentage than you may think...
sk* said:How can you call yourself a man after something like this?
I just found out some asshole raped my ex about a year ago. He is gonna have a nice surprise when he gets out of jail.
-sk
Citruscide said:
I think he's getting a nice surprise while he's in jail.
C-ditty
[email][email protected][/email] said:Personally, if you don’t have a gun to your head or a knife to your throat. If you didn’t take a beating fighting off the guy. Then the claim of rape is bullshit. Rape is forcible compulsion NOT regret the next day.
Seen this shit way too many times. I said “no” and he did it anyway. Honey, you better show some bruises that you got on your way to the door when he prevented you from leaving or you didn’t really want to leave that badly.
supernav said:Exactly. In a lot of cases, the lawyers have to remind judges and juries that rape is "FORCIBLE SEX". ie: Sex via force and violence.
But i disagree with the instant executioner bit.
For example:
I read a few years back this married woman came home. The husband found out that she had slept with someone. She got scared, and made up a story that the guy she fucked at the club, actually took her back to his pad and raped her. The husband got infuriated. Went down, and killed the guy.
During the trial -- the jury found out that she had lied. She admitted it was consensual sex, but since she was a battered spouse, she did not want to get battered again. Since she didn't claim to the authorities, she did nothing wrong. And the jury had to disregard her testimony -- cuz they had to go by the motive, that this husband truly believed he was confronting his wife's rapist. Irregardless if it was true or not.
End result: The husband got 1 year in jail, 2 years probation. And in 6 months -- he was let out with good behaviour.
That guy who got killed could've been ANY of us.
know what i mean, jelly bean?
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TC2 said:While rape is a horrible and beatdown deserving thing. Dont forget about all the innocent guys that get falsely accused of it.
Lots of women cry rape for attention or out of guit after having consenal sex with someone.
I have a friend who is dealing with this right now and I know he did not rape anyone.
He had sex with this girl who ended up being 16(don't know whether he knew this or not).
He didnt want a GF so she got pissed and said he forced himself on her..total bullshit.
He's fucked.. all it takes is the girls word that's it.
It could happen to anyone of us, think about that.
thats why there are lawyers....there are more volumes of case law than LAWS themselves.....case laws dictate situations percisely....state of mind, and a plethora of other criteria....sentencing is up to judges-and in our crowded judicial system and over-crowded institutions- time served is usually cut in half...especially in california.....under the circumstances stated in the above case, it is unlikely that this man (husband) would go out and kill again....therefor the judge probably took this into consideration and gave a light sentence...after all- he THOUGHT his wife was a victim...doesnt make it ok-or right- but if it had been you or I???? the system would have worked in our favor....still, he has to live with the incident...and dont think for a minute that he got everything for free.........crew9 said:
How on earth did he get out of jail so quickly? That was a crime of passion, murder 2 is it not?
TC2 said:While rape is a horrible and beatdown deserving thing. Dont forget about all the innocent guys that get falsely accused of it.
Lots of women cry rape for attention or out of guit after having consenal sex with someone.
I have a friend who is dealing with this right now and I know he did not rape anyone.
He had sex with this girl who ended up being 16(don't know whether he knew this or not).
He didnt want a GF so she got pissed and said he forced himself on her..total bullshit.
He's fucked.. all it takes is the girls word that's it.
It could happen to anyone of us, think about that.
C3bodybuilding said:What was the name of that kid who got beaten to death in Phila by some punks because a girl lied about being raped by him?
fat tire said:a couple of 15 year olds' raped a jogger at gunpoint a couple of weeks ago here. These two kids just threw their lives away because of of complete and total lack of morals. Just makes you sick.
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