Radio Clip Where War Protester Is Owned

[Tiervexx]

50-50 is very very optimistic.
Your friend there is probably not in touch with a representative extract of the population as a Westerner and support has gone down.

PS the link did not work for me either. But I know the clip I heard it before.

Let me rephrase.

50% liked saddam, 50% did not. I have no idea how much of the ladder want democracy, and I'm sure that many who want democracy still don't like us.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Let me rephrase.

50% liked saddam, 50% did not. I have no idea how much of the ladder want democracy, and I'm sure that many who want democracy still don't like us.

also remember that a lot of iraqis are pressured to thinking like their more anti-american counterparts, for fear of reprisal or being labeled as a 'coalition supporter'

 

[Tiervexx]

also remember that a lot of iraqis are pressured to thinking like their more anti-american counterparts, for fear of reprisal or being labeled as a 'coalition supporter'

The end result is still the same. To have a free sociaty it MUST be the other way around! Quite minorities are completely useless, even quite majorities can't do too much.

The USA only drove out England because the liberty-minded individuals here were able to put the sheep in their places. There are no signs of that happening in Iraq on the scale that is needed.

Another thing that will help a free, and individualistic sociaty hold together is a sense of pride. Do you think Americans would have been so proud if the French would have completly fought our war for us than wrote us a constitution, then made sure that our early leaders were acceptable to them?

 

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I've been in Iraq and spoken to Iraqi citizens. I know how educated they and I know the words they use and the meter of their speech patterns.

If you don't realize that radio stations stage shit like this you're an absolute moron.

To respond:

1) We are there to bring peace. We aren't there to fight terrorists, but to engage a strategy of 'draining the swamp.' This is done by eliminating tyrants and unjust governments where there is no rule of law, etc. It won't end all terrorist threats, but it will aid in limiting their abilities.

2) Iraqis are one of the most educated Islam-dominated states in the middle east. They were practically a Western state with a British-style education system.

3) She constantly avoids answering his question. He very precisely answers hers. And she gets as much speaking time as he does, if not more.

4) Any evidence that it is 'very very common'? Reason dictates that there is no difficulty in finding Iraqi ex-pats here who can badmouth Hussien. Some of them had an office right near where I lived on the Hill. I personally know two Iranians in the same situation. You may disagree with him, but why doubt his sincerity? Not only that, but I read an AP story just yesterday where they are talking to Iraqis TODAY who are IN Iraq and they echo the same sentiments of this guy.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

The end result is still the same. To have a free sociaty it MUST be the other way around! Quite minorities are completely useless, even quite majorities can't do too much.

True. I believe that the majority of Iraqis are the 'quiet' ones who are in favor of the US's actions. There's the minority of Iraqi's who go around, spouting their extremist creed, threatening anyone else who would go against them... Iraq first needs to be secure, the people need the security to speak out without fear or being labeled an infidel. I always see protests on the news, but they're always anti-American protests. You will never see a pro-America rally in Iraq, atleast not right now. People are too scared.



The USA only drove out England because the liberty-minded individuals here were able to put the sheep in their places. There are no signs of that happening in Iraq on the scale that is needed.


True to an extent. We can be more sure on June 30th, when sovereignty is supposed to be handed over. We will see the new leaders of Iraq, and we will see how much charisma they have with the people.


Another thing that will help a free, and individualistic sociaty hold together is a sense of pride. Do you think Americans would have been so proud if the French would have completly fought our war for us than wrote us a constitution, then made sure that our early leaders were acceptable to them?

Yeh the military, working with Iraqis, is trying to fix that through a series of non-war related things, such as rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure -- schools, hospitals, housing, etc... There's a sense of pride in that, IMO. There will be a sense of pride through all of the cleric leadership and assitance in forming the Iraqi governing council. But yeh, they couldn't do most of the work themselves like we did, since they are so divisive.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

They aren't in Iraq. His cousins are, as he said.

Do your friends call you Sherlock?

wow

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Sounds kind of real to me. "Chirping Bird"...lol. She sounded like a dumb fuck. Like most war protestors.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

chirp chirp little bird, you are little girl!! lol!!!

 

[Synpax]

Do your friends call you Sherlock?

wow

It was in response to someone here saying he should go back to Iraq with his wife and kids. Do your friends call you semi-literate?