QV products under dosed?

[AMGETR]

I buy 10ml vials of QV products like tren. I would think thought would be 10ml. But when I take out 1ml per day for my injections. I only end up with about 8ml. Is this like that for everyone?

 

[monkey arms]

hmmm. I've never been that short before. It is usually within .2 or .3 of a ml on either side.

 

[genarr3]

That's called underfilled, not underdosed.

 

[TheRide]

That's called underfilled, not underdosed.

Ditto and I have never had a shortfall of that much? Maybe a few .01 of a CC here and there, but nothing of any measurable impact.

 

[AMGETR]

Well I'll see when I'm done this vial. Today is day 6 with it. I've got enough for another ml, and maybe 1 more? We'll see.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I get that too, some is waste from the neck of the needle and some is from drawing a littlebit past the line... But yeah you can expect most 10ml bottle to be underfilled by about 0.5 cc.

 

[Red Rocket]

I have had quite a few underfilled bottles of QV also

 

[Slyder190]

No probs here, but you gotta watch out for those Mexican Labs.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Labs like Pharma****, D****, and Dav**** fill most of their bottles (depending on product) to 12ml or 13ml. Kinda nice having the extra, especially if you're running a 12 weeker, you wont have to crack that third bottle open.

EDIT: Out of respect for the private UGs

 

[mposster]

just finished 10 weeks of the QV deca 300....10mls to the drop....

 

[AMGETR]

Ok cool bro. I hope mine is 10ml to the drop.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I get that too, some is waste from the neck of the needle and some is from drawing a littlebit past the line... But yeah you can expect most 10ml bottle to be underfilled by about 0.5 cc.

I was wondering the same. Even if you fill it upt ot the line, you always have somethin gelse in the needle.

 

[poantrex]

Man, why do people use Mex injectables? It is NOT cheaper than human grade stuff if you know where to go.

Even if it were cheaper, I just do not trust that stuff. Heard way too many stories of dirty gear causing infection and pain.

 

[muscleup]

Poantrex your my boy and all but I disagree...QV too me is Great stuff, and for most people easier to find...

Man, why do people use Mex injectables? It is NOT cheaper than human grade stuff if you know where to go.

Even if it were cheaper, I just do not trust that stuff. Heard way too many stories of dirty gear causing infection and pain.

 

[Lowest]

Poantrex... I also must disagree. I've seen some hella good deals on human-grade before, but still never as cheap as mex gear. And mex gear is generally much cheaper and easier to find. I had great results from QV, TT, and even Brovel! Sure brovel was underfilled, but it was dosed pretty accurately and cheap enough to make up for any lack in that area. It may not be the top of the line, but mex gear is easy to get and it works. Of course, I make all my own gear now, but still, I stand by mex gear as not being complete crap all the time

 

[AMGETR]

Man, why do people use Mex injectables? It is NOT cheaper than human grade stuff if you know where to go.

Even if it were cheaper, I just do not trust that stuff. Heard way too many stories of dirty gear causing infection and pain.

I use only QV, and it's great stuff.

 

[TheRide]

I use only QV, and it's great stuff.

100% agree w/you AMGETR

 

[DIVISION]

Poantrex... I also must disagree. I've seen some hella good deals on human-grade before, but still never as cheap as mex gear. And mex gear is generally much cheaper and easier to find. I had great results from QV, TT, and even Brovel! Sure brovel was underfilled, but it was dosed pretty accurately and cheap enough to make up for any lack in that area. It may not be the top of the line, but mex gear is easy to get and it works. Of course, I make all my own gear now, but still, I stand by mex gear as not being complete crap all the time

The Mexican gear is a great deal for the price you are paying, so long as you understand that it will be underfilled, possibly underdosed. As long as you account for that, you'll be STR8. Personally, I've only used human grade gear, but I might try out some QV eventually.




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[oxymoron]

Other than my one good expererience with QFS, I have only used QV. Never noticed low fills on my vials. At least nothing measurable with a syringe.

 

[poantrex]

Hmm. I like their orals, but I still think i've heard too many stories about pain and infection with QV injects. I mean....their Test Enanthate is painful, whats up with that? I've never used test enth that is painful....most human grade stuff goes in smooth as a butter.

 

[oxymoron]

AMGETR, I think you jinxed me. This thread made me curious, so I went ahead and drew tonights shot out of my QVbold bottle and it was about half of a ML short of what should have been in there. Which makes my previous comment on this thread null and void.

 

[AMGETR]

AMGETR, I think you jinxed me. This thread made me curious, so I went ahead and drew tonights shot out of my QVbold bottle and it was about half of a ML short of what should have been in there. Which makes my previous comment on this thread null and void.

Damn, that sucks man. Today is day 8 of the tren. Let's see if I can get 9ml out of it.

 

[carlsky]

I got 8ml out of my qv enanthate so yes, I geuss they can be underdosed. Great stuff though!

 

[oxymoron]

I got 8ml out of my qv enanthate so yes, I geuss they can be underdosed. Great stuff though!

8 is unacceptable. I got about 9.5 which can fuck up your cycle a little if you don't have any more, especially if it's 300 or 400mg/ml stuff. But If I'm hearing you right, you got 8mils out of a 10.
That's fucked.

 

[AMGETR]

If it wasn't for the good pricing, and the quality, I'd be pissed for being under dosed. But meh, what are you going to do.

 

[oxymoron]

If it wasn't for the good pricing, and the quality, I'd be pissed for being under dosed. But meh, what are you going to do.

Switch brands. Sounds kind of silly, because the shit's illegal but I guess we are a fair portion of the revenue of vet steroid suppliers. My source has SYD (which is suppossedly comparable to QV) in almost all of his QV gear. My next shopping trip will be with SYD products across the board. I have two of their Boldenone vials, which I had to tap into to complete my injection this afternoon, because my QV came short.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I buy 10ml vials of QV products like tren. I would think thought would be 10ml. But when I take out 1ml per day for my injections. I only end up with about 8ml. Is this like that for everyone?

No problems with that on my end either...double check your pulls

 

[The Terminator]

I get that too, some is waste from the neck of the needle and some is from drawing a littlebit past the line... But yeah you can expect most 10ml bottle to be underfilled by about 0.5 cc.

Exactly....SO MANY guys forget to account for all the oil in the pin and over the top line that they end up injecting 1 1/4 ml and only think its 1 ml

I have never had a problem with QV being underfilled (and I have used plenty of it )

 

[LVTitan]

I buy 10ml vials of QV products like tren. I would think thought would be 10ml. But when I take out 1ml per day for my injections. I only end up with about 8ml. Is this like that for everyone?

qv has been mildly underdosed sometimes, my qv300 deca tested 266mg/ml, but you are referring to being underfilled. yes qv is famous for that, but you must remember that every time you inject you dont get the amount that is in the needle itself, or the little nipple of the syring past where the plunger stops. now that doesn't add up to much, but think if you are taking a bunch of small doses as opposed to a few large doses, you are losing that much juice more often, thats why you will never get 10cc out of a 10cc bottle even if it is filled correctly w/1cc or .5cc shots every day. although my qv is always around 8 or 9ccs
titan

 

[LVTitan]

Hmm. I like their orals, but I still think i've heard too many stories about pain and infection with QV injects. I mean....their Test Enanthate is painful, whats up with that? I've never used test enth that is painful....most human grade stuff goes in smooth as a butter.

i've used qv enth many times no pain.

 

[genarr3]

Exactly....SO MANY guys forget to account for all the oil in the pin and over the top line that they end up injecting 1 1/4 ml and only think its 1 ml

I have never had a problem with QV being underfilled (and I have used plenty of it )

Word. I've heard this about every multi-dose dose brand.

 

[The Terminator]

Word. I've heard this about every multi-dose dose brand.

Its amazing how many times I see this exact type of thread posted, and then it usually turns out the the guys claiming "underfilled" are all saying the drew out 1 ml because the oil in the pin goes up the 1 ml line
A MUCH more accurate gauge would be made by putting the 1 ml between the 1/2 ml mark and the 1 1/2 ml mark, then this "problem" could be avoided

 

[oxymoron]

No way a needle full of gear after 4 injects will add up to mL over a vial. Unfortunately, for me I plan my cycle including that mil or half a mil. Oh well, I'm new, so if that's how it tis, fuck it.

 

[AMGETR]

Its amazing how many times I see this exact type of thread posted, and then it usually turns out the the guys claiming "underfilled" are all saying the drew out 1 ml because the oil in the pin goes up the 1 ml line
A MUCH more accurate gauge would be made by putting the 1 ml between the 1/2 ml mark and the 1 1/2 ml mark, then this "problem" could be avoided

I will try this on the next vial. Thanks Term.

 

[LVTitan]

Its amazing how many times I see this exact type of thread posted, and then it usually turns out the the guys claiming "underfilled" are all saying the drew out 1 ml because the oil in the pin goes up the 1 ml line
A MUCH more accurate gauge would be made by putting the 1 ml between the 1/2 ml mark and the 1 1/2 ml mark, then this "problem" could be avoided

what do you mean term ? doesn't the 1ml come between the .5 and the 1.5 already ? i dont see what you mean ...

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Guys, the syringe counts the ML from the line past the neck, till you get to the Number 1 on the needle... It does not account for the .25 cc that gets lost in the neck and body of the needle...

I'm a little gangsta about my shit, I just draw about .25cc of air and take my shots laying down, by the time the Plunger gets to the neck, the air bubble pushes out the little .25cc left in the neck. Every now and them I'll draw a little too much air and get a little air in the injection site then i get some bubbles fizzle out of the site... I'm still alive so who cares!


I don't recomend anybody follow my advice !