Poantrex... I also must disagree. I've seen some hella good deals on human-grade before, but still never as cheap as mex gear. And mex gear is generally much cheaper and easier to find. I had great results from QV, TT, and even Brovel! Sure brovel was underfilled, but it was dosed pretty accurately and cheap enough to make up for any lack in that area. It may not be the top of the line, but mex gear is easy to get and it works. Of course, I make all my own gear now, but still, I stand by mex gear as not being complete crap all the time