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Quixtar - Anyone worked with them?

ireekofawesomeness

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i have 2 friends who are doing this quixtar IBO thing right now and it definitely seems to have some appealing points to it, but im still not toally sold bc ive also read some bad things about them on the net...then again you can find bad shit about anything on the net...has anyone ever done work with them or currently employed, and what did you think of it?
 
Wow, you're from NJ and they're doing that stuff over there too? I'm in MI, went to some of their meetings, also had friends who I found out were in it or someone tried to get them into it. It's best for you to find out for yourself if it's for you or not.
 
My sister sells it. It's just not my style
 
I had some guy approach me in the mall asking if I did side work and I told him I got my own masonry/construction thing and he told me he had some work for me. Then he tried to get me to do this quixtar thing and kept beating around the bush on what it was really about. It took him way too long to really tell me "What it is about" and "What they are trying to do" I thought he wanted some work done at a house but I was way off. I didn't buy into it because the dude lied off the bat then wouldn't get to the point or have a direct answer to my questions. He was very evasive when I asked questions.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Yeah that's how it is. They made it sound like it was easy and cheap to get into, but then more and more money was needed to get started with it, not to mention time. To get anywhere worthwhile with it, it depends on how many people you can convince to jump on the bandwagon, so to speak. They say you're starting your own "business" but they never tell you you're actually working to fatten the head honcho's pockets before you see a dime of it yourself. I suppose they'll put a hit out on me now or something. :rolleyes:
The only way I see that thing being a benefit to ordinary people is if everyone bought into it. Otherwise it's not worth the time and money.
The guy who was trying to get me to join wouldn't tell me what it cost he would just say "It's very inexpensive" Then he said he was sending me some info pack in the mail that never came. He was also trying to get me to go to some meeting almost an hour and a half away that started wouldn't end until 9:30 or 10:00pm and couldn't comprehend that I wake up before 5am to go to work.

After BSing me for close to a month I finally stopped answering his calls and emails. The guy told me when I first met him that he and some people he knows were going to build some houses and needed a contractor and wanted brick and stone on their houses. I almost got duped trying to sell some work for myself. Once I took a look from the 3rd person view it definately wasn't worth it.
 
dannomight said:
The guy who was trying to get me to join wouldn't tell me what it cost he would just say "It's very inexpensive" Then he said he was sending me some info pack in the mail that never came. He was also trying to get me to go to some meeting almost an hour and a half away that started wouldn't end until 9:30 or 10:00pm and couldn't comprehend that I wake up before 5am to go to work.

After BSing me for close to a month I finally stopped answering his calls and emails. The guy told me when I first met him that he and some people he knows were going to build some houses and needed a contractor and wanted brick and stone on their houses. I almost got duped trying to sell some work for myself. Once I took a look from the 3rd person view it definately wasn't worth it.


Yeah that's what you have to do, look at it from a distance. I typically don't like to badmouth business operations, but this one isn't a typical business operation. You're working to benefit someone else financially but they don't tell you that. Normal people would have a better chance of succeeding at it if the operation was honest in the first place. They'd be better off saying that as long as many people can be convinced to buy into it, you could benefit from it. Otherwise it's nothing but an uphill battle with little reward, if any. Then there are possible legal implications I was wondering about in regards to any income you might get from it. They say you're starting a "business" but you never have to go to the city hall to fill out a doing business as form, and how would taxes work, etc. Some of the questions I had later, but doubt I would've gotten a straight answer if I asked, judging from how honest they were to start with.
 
SoreArms said:
never heard of it, what is it about?
something about buying all your household items through their site. they pretty much want you to pay them and buy everything you wil ever use off them like bathroom supplies, appliances, clothes, and all sorts of other junk. they also wan't you to sell everything to your friends and everyone else you can think of. i don't know all what its exactly about because i couldn't get a srt8 answer out of the guy nor would i drive a great distance to attend a meeting that would only cost me time and money to attend.
 
SoreArms said:
isn't that like amway

I believe the same people started both, but they try their damnedest to cloud that info. It used to be that if you googled for Quixtar you got a ton of blog hits. Thats because the Quixtar people encouraged everyone to start blogging to push down the hits of people complaining about the company. The products are not all bad. I have some energy drink, creatine and some luggage I got from my sister.
 
Dial_tone said:
I believe the same people started both, but they try their damnedest to cloud that info. It used to be that if you googled for Quixtar you got a ton of blog hits. Thats because the Quixtar people encouraged everyone to start blogging to push down the hits of people complaining about the company. The products are not all bad. I have some energy drink, creatine and some luggage I got from my sister.


Yeah some of the products are good (xs drinks, cosmetic stuff for women, nutrition stuff that they claim is better than gnc, etc), but expensive if you're not a member of the site, or working through them, which costs money by itself.
 
My cousin has been pushin Quiztar on the entire family for like 6 years now. we all laughed at him. Now. Hes already replaced 50% of his work paycheck with his IBO. I tried it. But it just faded away. Wasnt for me. Maybe b/c i smoke too much weed. Who knows?
 
I can see the intent of the plan, and it would be a good idea if people actually wanted to do that sort of thing (shop for nearly everything online), and get paid residual income after convincing enough people underneath you to buy from the site. I suppose I'll kick myself if something like this really took off like they say it will, but oh well we'll wait and see.
 
It is Amway. They started using this name back in 98 or 99 if I am correct. the name Amway had/has such a bad reputation it was necessary to do this. I have friends who have actually retired doing this. They have done very well for themselves, but in my opiniion, from the expense of alot of other people. They have tried for years to get me involved, but it just is'nt anything I am interested in. Aot of people bad mouth people involved in these type of businesses, I just say the meely mouths are lazy. There are a ton of ways to make cash out in the world, it is up to each individual to go and make theirs. People have dreams and the problem is, most people just dream. They don't have the ambition to wake up and apply themselves so they can accomplish their dreams. Most people are just fcuking lazy!
 
El Dandy said:
It is Amway. They started using this name back in 98 or 99 if I am correct. the name Amway had/has such a bad reputation it was necessary to do this. I have friends who have actually retired doing this. They have done very well for themselves, but in my opiniion, from the expense of alot of other people. They have tried for years to get me involved, but it just is'nt anything I am interested in. Aot of people bad mouth people involved in these type of businesses, I just say the meely mouths are lazy. There are a ton of ways to make cash out in the world, it is up to each individual to go and make theirs. People have dreams and the problem is, most people just dream. They don't have the ambition to wake up and apply themselves so they can accomplish their dreams. Most people are just fcuking lazy!


There's truth in what you say, but also a lot of the problem in this case is getting people's attitudes to change, not to mention their buying habits. Getting them to look at a new idea, trust factor, etc. There are many factors that have to be addressed for this thing to pay off for someone, which is more than most people care to deal with, or agree with.
 
I had a friend I met through a frat brother that was involved with equinox.
Basically pyramid scheme. Products, obliged and went to a meeting and they had a good sales pitch. Almost wanted you to slap down 5k to get started with water filters you could sell.
But I was like this is retarded.
You hound your friends and family to sell them overpriced products but the real money for these guy was getting people to pay to become distributors and they end up with a garage full of crap.

They are all the same, they change names, they start all crap. The people who join are the target market not the endusers. People take a cut of everything in the distribution chain.
It just really is a scam unless you get people underneath you and its like a fucking cult going to those meetings. All the people there are distributors with like five or ten 'marks' so its groupthink and all of them relate success stories and build the room with atmosphere of success. Some dupes fall for it.

Dont be a dupe. Pyramid distribution is not an avenue of success. Period
 
I just don't like the pyramid aspect of that. I don't want to hound my friends about stuff.
 
Dial_tone said:
I just don't like the pyramid aspect of that. I don't want to hound my friends about stuff.

yeah no kidding, I dumped being friends with this guy and his friends b/c he got into this.
I even told them off.
Friends should not be used like that or seen as potential 'marks' to be scammed. Fuck that
 
Dial_tone said:
I just don't like the pyramid aspect of that. I don't want to hound my friends about stuff.

The quickest way to hurting someones pussy who is involved with Quixtar is mention the word PYRAMID.
 
ok guys so regardless of whether or not youd individually do it or its for you, would you say theres any real money to be made in it for someone who puts time and effort into it?
 
IReekofAwesomeness said:
ok guys so regardless of whether or not youd individually do it or its for you, would you say theres any real money to be made in it for someone who puts time and effort into it?

No, No "REAL" money involved unless your at the top of the pyrimad...which your not.
 
Dial_tone said:
I believe the same people started both, but they try their damnedest to cloud that info. It used to be that if you googled for Quixtar you got a ton of blog hits. Thats because the Quixtar people encouraged everyone to start blogging to push down the hits of people complaining about the company. The products are not all bad. I have some energy drink, creatine and some luggage I got from my sister.

The energy drink is great. Quixtar is a derivative of the old amway, I dont remember how. I was a member for a year. I had the opportunity to meet with one of dexter yeager's personal friends and talk to them. It was inspiring to talk to them to say the least. I kindof fell off the wagon when a guy with no formal education started giving me a lecture about their vitamins and the biochemical benefits of using their $60 (at the cheapest) NutriliteXX vitamins. The energy drinks are great.

The core of the quixtar site is still based around cleaning products like the old amway was. It's easy to at least make your money back each year with buying and selling the energy drinks. A good portion of your income when you get to the diamond level comes from selling those tapes to people.
 
Dunk said:
The quickest way to hurting someones pussy who is involved with Quixtar is mention the word PYRAMID.



some guys with supplement companies do that

weak sauce if u ask me

just sell real gear imo
 
My experience with it was utter crap. It is AMWAY, which, IMO is a pyramid scheme... stay far away from this. For one person who makes "diamond", 1000 people will have given up, frustrated, and duped. Diamonds seem to make most of their money selling "tapes" and "seminars", getting you to belive the "dream" that you'll get rich from this.

facts:
-the product is so expensive (because there are so many "middlemen" taking their cut), that it is hard to move.
-uplines keep trying to persuade you to sell "big ticket items" (vaccum cleaners, air purifiers, and water purifiers) that are super difficult to move and utter wastes of money (you have to live with a guilty conscious if you sell this crap to your family)
-uplines will NOT take responsibility if you fall into legal trouble (my friend had the District Attorney on him... and finally settled for a $10,000 fine).
-you are NOT a "wholesaler" as evidenced by the fact that I was taxed (by the state of hawaii) as a "retailer"
-they add an extra 6% "handling" fee to the cost of the goods, making your profit margin super slim (most grocery stores have a profit margin of 1% to 2%, so this 6% charge really eats into your profits. Because of this, you'll be stuck with "inventory" that is nearly impossible to move and will eventually have to sell at no profit or at a loss)
-you will face utter humiliation approaching friends, family, and strangers to join under you.

Don't do quixtar - You'll end up poorer as a result. These a$$holes prey on people who belive they will make it big, when, in reality, .001% actually do.

flash.
 
tiger88 said:
^^^ so where does all the money actually go?

Hard to say. AMWAY is a privately held organization, so they don't have to disclose their financials to the SEC (one of the largest private corps. in USA). I suspect the founders and upper-managment are pulling in mad cash, though... I know the sucess rate of someone joining of making "ruby" is like 1/100.
 
hawaiianflash said:
My experience with it was utter crap. It is AMWAY, which, IMO is a pyramid scheme... stay far away from this. For one person who makes "diamond", 1000 people will have given up, frustrated, and duped. Diamonds seem to make most of their money selling "tapes" and "seminars", getting you to belive the "dream" that you'll get rich from this.

facts:
-the product is so expensive (because there are so many "middlemen" taking their cut), that it is hard to move.
-uplines keep trying to persuade you to sell "big ticket items" (vaccum cleaners, air purifiers, and water purifiers) that are super difficult to move and utter wastes of money (you have to live with a guilty conscious if you sell this crap to your family)
-uplines will NOT take responsibility if you fall into legal trouble (my friend had the District Attorney on him... and finally settled for a $10,000 fine).
-you are NOT a "wholesaler" as evidenced by the fact that I was taxed (by the state of hawaii) as a "retailer"
-they add an extra 6% "handling" fee to the cost of the goods, making your profit margin super slim (most grocery stores have a profit margin of 1% to 2%, so this 6% charge really eats into your profits. Because of this, you'll be stuck with "inventory" that is nearly impossible to move and will eventually have to sell at no profit or at a loss)
-you will face utter humiliation approaching friends, family, and strangers to join under you.

Don't do quixtar - You'll end up poorer as a result. These a$$holes prey on people who belive they will make it big, when, in reality, .001% actually do.

flash.

im emailing that to my cousin lol

hes an eagle or some shit?
 
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