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I just watched pumping iron and every time I go crazzy I want to know what those guys took. They look 1000x better then most bodybuilders do today.
They look so natural but at the same time not natural. I want that type of look so bad when I start my first cycle. Does anyone know if they used test eth or anything like that...

I herd from an old body builder they used mostly dbol, primobolan.
and I think he said deca. Anyone know anything more on this?

I never did juice but if I do I dont want they jay cutler look Iwant that natural lean look they had. I know that look doesent come over night but I want to follow in the foot steps.

Here is my current appearance just from working out natural and taking creatine and glutamine and protien shakes

http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memememejpcp4.jpg
 
you got the veins poppin and ya havent even juiced yet bro! did u download pumping iron ?? id love to watch it
 
I'm not sure about what they used. But what I know, is that first, they started very disciplined at a very early age, for example Arnold started at around 14 and at 16-18 was already juicing; Second, they didn't use the huge amounts of drugs people use today, and they didn't use the different type of poisons people use today; for example, Trenbolone. Third, they had better quality food, and LESS QUANTITY of food. Today, we are full of processed crap, food with hormones, meat frozen for 6 months, fast food, saturated fats, cholesterol and besides, today's bodybuilders eat 5000 - 6000 cals everyday; before, just watch pumping iron; their biggest meal was a double burger sandwich; pre contest, just fruits, some egg whites, etc. Today, a 15 years old is eating a triple burger sandwich with fries and a soda at a Mc Donald.

No doubt humans today are a degenerated specie.


Bodybuilders in the 60' - 70's = Tigers

Bodybuilders today = Gorillas
 
they didnt use tren?? didnt know that. i wonder what BBers will look like in the future. like 50-100 yrs from now
 
50 years from now I'm sure they'll find ways to replicate muscle through DNA recoding. Steroids will be as antiquainted as lecches.

What did they take? Almost everybody used dball. Almost nobody took test. The story goes that Arnold did 50 mgs of dball and 100mg shot of primmo every day and it was considered off the chart for the time. (I don't think he started as young as 14 though).

Oliva said he liked decca and winnie. (200 decca a week and 25 winnee a day!!!) Don Howorth told me straight up about his drug use and swore he only took 2 dball a day though it's uncertain if there were the 5mg -- probably the 15 or 25 mg, though 5 mg was the standard. Draper supposedly only took Winnee. Scott used only dball as did Padilla. You never know exacyly what or how much anyone took but those were pretty much the choices.
 
Tren was not available then, I was using this stuff since the late 80's and most drugs around were Dbol, Deca, winny and testosterone blends like Sustanon and test C and E.
Some other stuff but these were the most common in the mid to late 80s.
Pumping Iron was 75 so maybe sustanon was not even around then.
 
someone told me they took hgh back then...the stuff made from cadavers? is this true? i thought growth didnt come out till the 80's
 
Arnold started lifting and taking steroids by age 18.
You just watched arnold in 1975 at age 28 after he had been juicing for atleast 10 years.That was his peak around 1975
So to look like "those guys did" your gonna have to put in 10yrs and over 10 cycles to get that look.
same with zane,franco,serge they all had years of lifting under their belts.
Lou on the other hand was 23 years old and had been lifting with steroids for only 5 years and it showed he had the muscle but did not have the striations ,the cuts and the over all conditioning that the other guys that had trained twice as long had.

That why they look so impressive the muscles are conditioned ,trained hard,rock solid and built with little chemical assistance compared to todays pro bodybuilders.
Plus the stayed fairly lean all year long .This allowed them to keep their abdominal section very tight .

I really think you should not focus on what drugs they did use. I think you should focus on how they trained and what they ate.

They were the pioneers of the sport and nutrition was more of the game rather then drug use.

But when the time comes after training really hard eating well and peaking out naturally then you can move on to the drug questions and cycles.

I personally think anyone that wants to cycle should have 5 yrs lifting under thier belt
maybe 3 years if they build bulk quick and want to use the steroids to help build a harder physic and sculpt it out.

Personally I think you have potential.You have abs and veins in the bi's with a over all plesant shape.
You need to focus on the back more and doing heavy compound movents to build bulk.
Deads,squats,presses.
Consume lots of clean calories.
I still think you are a few years away from steroid use.

And to awnser the question they looked more natural but were not natural.
Those guys were obessed and trained like maniacs and literally gave up everyone and everything around them to train and compete.
The amounts they used was very modest and perscribed by doctors.
A typical cycle was 20 mg of dianabol a day with 300 mg of primobolan.

Arnold was a genetic freak with a one in a million shape and look.
Do not think for a second any amount of steroids will make you 6'2 240lbs and shaped like him in any way shape or form.
You were looking at the best of the best in the entire world back then.

Good luck man when you do take the plunge into steroids
start very small and test the waters with small low dose cycles.
 
Those guys were all about balls to the wall training and proper diet.Today it seems like people juice to add muscle. Back then is was to help recover from intense workouts.

I think I am like most people and prefer the look these guys had in the 70's compared to todays bloated look.
 
chazk said:
Arnold started lifting and taking steroids by age 18.
You just watched arnold in 1975 at age 28 after he had been juicing for atleast 10 years.That was his peak around 1975
So to look like "those guys did" your gonna have to put in 10yrs and over 10 cycles to get that look.
same with zane,franco,serge they all had years of lifting under their belts.
Lou on the other hand was 23 years old and had been lifting with steroids for only 5 years and it showed he had the muscle but did not have the striations ,the cuts and the over all conditioning that the other guys that had trained twice as long had.

That why they look so impressive the muscles are conditioned ,trained hard,rock solid and built with little chemical assistance compared to todays pro bodybuilders.
Plus the stayed fairly lean all year long .This allowed them to keep their abdominal section very tight .

I really think you should not focus on what drugs they did use. I think you should focus on how they trained and what they ate.

They were the pioneers of the sport and nutrition was more of the game rather then drug use.

But when the time comes after training really hard eating well and peaking out naturally then you can move on to the drug questions and cycles.

I personally think anyone that wants to cycle should have 5 yrs lifting under thier belt
maybe 3 years if they build bulk quick and want to use the steroids to help build a harder physic and sculpt it out.

Personally I think you have potential.You have abs and veins in the bi's with a over all plesant shape.
You need to focus on the back more and doing heavy compound movents to build bulk.
Deads,squats,presses.
Consume lots of clean calories.
I still think you are a few years away from steroid use.

And to awnser the question they looked more natural but were not natural.
Those guys were obessed and trained like maniacs and literally gave up everyone and everything around them to train and compete.
The amounts they used was very modest and perscribed by doctors.
A typical cycle was 20 mg of dianabol a day with 300 mg of primobolan.

Arnold was a genetic freak with a one in a million shape and look.
Do not think for a second any amount of steroids will make you 6'2 240lbs and shaped like him in any way shape or form.
You were looking at the best of the best in the entire world back then.

Good luck man when you do take the plunge into steroids
start very small and test the waters with small low dose cycles.

great post man
 
Pumping Iron is definitly one of my favorites. Did anyone notice the scene were Lou's popping all sorts of pills? I never did zoom in to see what he was taking. I wonder if there wasn't a little D-bol on that table.
 
airsmith2k said:
someone told me they took human growth hormone - somatropin - back then...the stuff made from cadavers? is this true? i thought growth didnt come out till the 80's


Yeah the first version of HGH was from cadavers; however, that shit had the possibility of kill you from the same shit cows die...I don;t remember the name of that. Synthetic HGH, the one used today, came out I think in the early 90's.
 
DJ_UFO said:
Yeah the first version of human growth hormone - somatropin - was from cadavers; however, that shit had the possibility of kill you from the same shit cows die...I don;t remember the name of that. Synthetic HGH, the one used today, came out I think in the early 90's.

yeah so arnold and them back in the day didnt use hgh rite?
 
airsmith2k said:
yeah so arnold and them back in the day didnt use human growth hormone - somatropin - rite?


I think that GH was around, but it had to be extracted from the pituitary glands of cadavers, and it was only a few drops per gland. It was used medically for children with GH deficiencies, but all sorts of problems arose from it.

Recombinant insulin was first made around 1976, and recombinant GH and Factor 8 came quite quickly after that, so it was around by the 1980s.

The more research I do on GH, the more over-rated I think it is as a BBing drug and even as an 'anti-aging' drug, same with insulin.


I would love Pumping Iron the Women, does anyone know where you can get this DVD?
 
Tatyana said:
I think that gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - was around, but it had to be extracted from the pituitary glands of cadavers, and it was only a few drops per gland. It was used medically for children with GH deficiencies, but all sorts of problems arose from it.

Recombinant insulin was first made around 1976, and recombinant GH and Factor 8 came quite quickly after that, so it was around by the 1980s.

The more research I do on GH, the more over-rated I think it is as a BBing drug and even as an 'anti-aging' drug, same with insulin.


I would love Pumping Iron the Women, does anyone know where you can get this DVD?

youtube.com
puming iron 2

had some clips of it posted up.
bev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICy805OOUtc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWZF1vlo0g&feature=related
I love racheal she was the bomb i would go even as far o say she was 100% drug free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XekCuTIpGZI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxSOP3NeJSA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-09QP35o6U&feature=related

in the states it was know as "pumping iron 2" i think in europe "puming iron the women or women of iron"

while in the united states pumping iron "the comeback" from 1980 in the usa was know as pumping iron 2 over seas.
 
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