Prostate cancer from test. ALL MUST READ!

[FreakMonster]

So what are the chances of actually getting prostate cancer from using test once or twice a year?

And is saw palmetto helpful in anyway?

 

[panerai]

If you're worried about prostate cancer and juice, then have a PSA and digital exam done every 6-12 months. Don't count on Saw Palmetto or Proscar to save your ass.

Know what's going on and catch it early if it happens. However, if there were a clear link between juicing and early prostate cancer, we'd have seen the numbers by now and thus far, it is still pretty rare.

W6

You nailed it right there!

 

[Realgains]

Wilson 6 good point however, the dudes of the past used mainly Deca and d-bol and GH...the dudes that are 50 or so now, like Arnold.
What about the dudes of the past 15 years that have used big time test....??? Test is the culprit cause 5 alpha converts it to DHT

 

[Realgains]

Dudes NEVER use Finasteride with DECA!!!!! Your hair will fall out in handfulls......Finasteride is only needed with TEST ....Deca does not convert to DHT!

Lets get China fellow to start producing that progesterone blocker now so we can really take advantage of DECA!

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

BACKGROUND: The recent discovery of the classical estrogen receptor alpha (ERalpha) in metastatic and recurrent prostatic adenocarcinoma suggests that estrogens are implicated in prostate cancer progression.

This touches on a very important point. Although DHT is classically linked to BPH, due to the fact that it is the active androgen in prostate, estrogen is tied to this disease as well. As the model shows, neither androgens or estrogens alone trigger BPH. They play synergystic roles here. It has therefore been suggested that DHT may even be a better form of androgen replacement than testosterone for someone at risk for BPH.

With finasteride and T, you only lower androgen action in the prostate, not diminish it, as T is still active. However you can effectively eliminate estrogen action by supplementing an non-aromatizeable androgen like DHT. DHT can actually PREVENT BPH under the right conditions.


-Bill Llewellyn

 

[panerai]

Yes, but DHT will not build muscles like Testosteron does.

 

[wilson6]

Realgains,

The bottom line is still early detection. Along with basic blood work and LFT's, a PSA and digital exam is still the best prevention for guys juicing. We can argue about DHT, T, E and P, but the bottom line is get checked yearly, even if you're under 40. Just because you're blocking everything doesn't mean anything. There are case reports of severely hypogonadal (low T and E) guys getting prostate cancer. Shit happens.

W6

 

[GaryWary]

Second Prostate cancer is not something you contract. It's a genetic defect.

In the United States and Europe, men stand a one-in-five chance of developing prostate cancer. It is the most common malignancy among men and in the US alone it is the cause of more than 40,000 deaths annually.

1 in 5 men get prostate cancer. It is believed to be genetic in the sense that relatives do seem more likely to get the disease..
However, it could occur due to steroid use in men whose family members have never suffered the disease...

 

[GaryWary]

Dudes there is a strong genetic predisposition for most cancers BUT it is a proven fact that you can still get ANY cancer without this predisposition......just like you can get heart disease with NO genetic factors envolved.

And Stan o Zol.... just because the doc didn't say Anabolic Steroids in general, doesn't mean that he is not aware that other roids also raise DHT levels in the prostate. It just so happens that this poor soul with the cancer used test as a base always.....and we were talking about how test converts to DHT at the time of his statement.

He said it better...

 

[BIGRICH]

GREAT POST THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP